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Post by Blackdawg on Sept 18, 2020 23:54:22 GMT -6
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Post by svart on Sept 19, 2020 0:12:13 GMT -6
Yeah, 9k$ though..
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Post by Blackdawg on Sept 19, 2020 0:18:41 GMT -6
Yeah but to get that much HDX Analog I/O from Avid you're looking at twice that. And 8U vs just 2U. Plus this will do another 64ch on top of that. |
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Post by adamjbrass on Sept 19, 2020 6:05:00 GMT -6
I’ve never felt more disgusted to talk to a sales rep from a company, than when the multiple high pressure weasels from Antelope wanted me to buy this unit.
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Post by Quint on Sept 19, 2020 7:48:54 GMT -6
I wouldn't touch anything from Antelope with a ten foot pole. Their support is atrocious.
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Post by Blackdawg on Sept 20, 2020 0:45:23 GMT -6
that bad eh? Hm. Such mixed reviews on their stuff.
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Post by Ward on Sept 20, 2020 5:33:27 GMT -6
I’ve never felt more disgusted to talk to a sales rep from a company, than when the multiple high pressure weasels from Antelope wanted me to buy this unit. I wouldn't touch anything from Antelope with a ten foot pole. Their support is atrocious. that bad eh? Hm. Such mixed reviews on their stuff. Man . . . I was almost interested too. Great thing about this group, almost zero bullshit and everyone looks out for each other by warning the class in advance. I appreciate you all. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Sept 20, 2020 5:45:50 GMT -6
I have heard both things, some people having a good experience or even a retail salesman Cautioning me about their drivers, but that was a few years ago?
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Post by nomatic on Sept 20, 2020 6:42:39 GMT -6
That company is a joke! The Converters sounded nice but the software sucked and the support was zero.....
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Post by Quint on Sept 20, 2020 7:24:00 GMT -6
I have heard both things, some people having a good experience or even a retail salesman Cautioning me about their drivers, but that was a few years ago? I think that a lot of people that will tell you that they have had "good" experiences with Antelope products have been those that run their products into someone else's interface, via MADI, and simply use the Antelope as standalone converters. But I would NOT want to depend on using any Antelope product as an actual interface. The support and driver issues have been and continue to be a horror show. It's all there to read about on various forums and social media. |
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Post by ericn on Sept 20, 2020 11:19:04 GMT -6
I’ve never felt more disgusted to talk to a sales rep from a company, than when the multiple high pressure weasels from Antelope wanted me to buy this unit. If these guys would only get there act together! |
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Post by mrholmes on Sept 20, 2020 11:25:24 GMT -6
I have heard both things, some people having a good experience or even a retail salesman Cautioning me about their drivers, but that was a few years ago? I think that a lot of people that will tell you that they have had "good" experiences with Antelope products have been those that run their products into someone else's interface, via MADI, and simply use the Antelope as standalone converters. But I would NOT want to depend on using any Antelope product as an actual interface. The support and driver issues have been and continue to be a horror show. It's all there to read about on various forums and social media. If this holds true and we talk a commercial studio. The OP could invest more money into RME and go with the most stable drivers in the world. It facinates me the past 10 years that I run 25 I/Os with not a single problem except firmware or driver update. Always stable, always running. A true workhorse setup. I sometimes wonder why RME is not getting more reputation for it's soundness. |
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Post by drumsound on Sept 20, 2020 11:37:11 GMT -6
I've been one of the lucky ones when it comes to Antelope. I have an original Orion and it works and sounds great. I'm also the type that doesn't mind running behind the crowd. I have the same MacMini I got with the Orion, and am still on PT10 because it mostly runs fine.
On thing that I find weird on both the Orion and now this new one. They use such a small amount of available front panel faceplate real estate for metering. On the Orion I can read the sample rate through the window from the live room, but even sitting in front of it I'm not always sure which channel is which on the metering.
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Post by bombadil on Sept 20, 2020 11:55:24 GMT -6
I have an old RME ADi2 that I love. I even dropped it twice and was able to find the parts from Synthax in FL and have my local repair shop repair it cheaply. I don't like all-in-one type of gear (interface with AD converters and preamp, or more, built-in).
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Post by johneppstein on Sept 20, 2020 14:10:16 GMT -6
I have an old RME ADi2 that I love. I even dropped it twice and was able to find the parts from Synthax in FL and have my local repair shop repair it cheaply. I don't like all-in-one type of gear (interface with AD converters and preamp, or more, built-in). I see no reason to buy an interface with preamps. The preamps (from anyone) are never as good as good outboards.
$9K for a 64 channel interface? NO. That's 3x what their 32 goes for - doesn't make sense.
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Post by drbill on Sept 20, 2020 14:32:08 GMT -6
$140 per channel of I/o seems very reasonable to me. I wish it wasn't Antelope though.....
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Post by james7800 on Sept 20, 2020 14:47:54 GMT -6
The story always seems to be with this company that the product looks great, then after people buy they get software issues and rather than get the full support they need, Antelope just comes out with another new product 6 months later. If they put half the new product development work into supporting existing products they could be a revolutionary company. Instead everyone wisely runs because they don't want a product that randomly bricks and is outdated after a year.
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Post by Blackdawg on Sept 20, 2020 15:31:02 GMT -6
I have an old RME ADi2 that I love. I even dropped it twice and was able to find the parts from Synthax in FL and have my local repair shop repair it cheaply. I don't like all-in-one type of gear (interface with AD converters and preamp, or more, built-in). I see no reason to buy an interface with preamps. The preamps (from anyone) are never as good as good outboards.
$9K for a 64 channel interface? NO. That's 3x what their 32 goes for - doesn't make sense.
Not quite 3x as the hdx version is near 4k from antelope. The hdx interfaces add a lot to the cost. But you are right you could get two 32HDs for a bit less still in the same size format. |
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Post by johneppstein on Sept 20, 2020 19:32:54 GMT -6
I see no reason to buy an interface with preamps. The preamps (from anyone) are never as good as good outboards.
$9K for a 64 channel interface? NO. That's 3x what their 32 goes for - doesn't make sense.
Not quite 3x as the hdx version is near 4k from antelope. The hdx interfaces add a lot to the cost. But you are right you could get two 32HDs for a bit less still in the same size format. I just saw the B&H has the HDX for just under 6 grand - that's a lot better, considering that Antelope were real tigh-asses about discounting when I got my Orion 32 - had to grind the crap out of Sweetwater to get them to heavily discount cables and adaptors under cost. |
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Post by mrholmes on Sept 21, 2020 4:06:32 GMT -6
I have an old RME ADi2 that I love. I even dropped it twice and was able to find the parts from Synthax in FL and have my local repair shop repair it cheaply. I don't like all-in-one type of gear (interface with AD converters and preamp, or more, built-in). I see no reason to buy an interface with preamps. The preamps (from anyone) are never as good as good outboards.
That is not true for RME, they build great internal preamps which are used in classical recording a lot.
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Post by 000 on Sept 21, 2020 9:13:09 GMT -6
I’ve been running a 32+ Gen 3 for over a year now over thunderbolt with a Mac mini 2018. It’s probably the most stable system I’ve had - and it sounds great.
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Post by brucerothwell on Sept 21, 2020 10:53:52 GMT -6
I think that a lot of people that will tell you that they have had "good" experiences with Antelope products have been those that run their products into someone else's interface, via MADI, and simply use the Antelope as standalone converters. But I would NOT want to depend on using any Antelope product as an actual interface. The support and driver issues have been and continue to be a horror show. It's all there to read about on various forums and social media. If this holds true and we talk a commercial studio. The OP could invest more money into RME and go with the most stable drivers in the world. It facinates me the past 10 years that I run 25 I/Os with not a single problem except firmware or driver update. Always stable, always running. A true workhorse setup. I sometimes wonder why RME is not getting more reputation for it's soundness. Another top dog in "stability" is Metric Halo. Their new "3D" systems (upgrades too) are awesome. |
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Post by brucerothwell on Sept 21, 2020 10:59:00 GMT -6
I see no reason to buy an interface with preamps. The preamps (from anyone) are never as good as good outboards.
Metric Halo and RME have amazingly nice preamps. Not colored, buy still pristinely delicious. |
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Post by Blackdawg on Sept 21, 2020 11:00:24 GMT -6
I’ve been running a 32+ Gen 3 for over a year now over thunderbolt with a Mac mini 2018. It’s probably the most stable system I’ve had - and it sounds great. I've been very close to grabbing a 32HD several times now. Something keeps me from getting it though.. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2020 12:15:51 GMT -6
Old Antelope products tank in value too. Remember they were once Aardvark...
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