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Post by jtc111 on Jan 31, 2019 23:52:03 GMT -6
I'm the closest to the amateur "home studio guy"... I'm that too but I learned over the 16 or so years I've been at this that it costs a lot more money to inch your way up the quality trajectory. I started out with a couple of mics in the $100-200 range and spent a lot of years making small jumps in quality with both mics and preamps. I was buying everything new and then when I itched for something better in a year or two, I'd take a hit. It's an expensive game to play. These days, I'm happy to buy quality. If I can find it cheap, great, but I'm okay if I have to spend for it. That said, if I could buy a pretty true sounding 67 clone for $1500 in a cheap body/basket, I'd buy it. If I had to spend another $500 for it to be in a more impressive body/basket, that wouldn't put me off. If the price jumped to $3000, now we're approaching Flea money. If Flea came out with a 67, I'd buy it in a heartbeat. I own their 47 and I've sat in the studio with Vincent R. and heard his 49. I know that quality and it would be an easy decision. Spending $3000 on a 67 from anyone else though, I'm back to where I was before I bought my Flea, where it took years of listening to every shootout and watching every YouTube video I could find to finally make the decision to buy it. That Flea was on my radar for 3 years before I pulled the trigger. So I'm saying I may still buy it, but it would take some convincing and probably wouldn't be a quick decision.
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Post by jtc111 on Jan 31, 2019 13:06:42 GMT -6
so would you rather have a made in USA mic that SOUNDS exactly like you want, and maybe doesn't look and function exactly like a u67, at a price close to $1500? Or would you like to have a mic with the exact look and sound for closer to $3k? We can do it either way.... or maybe both! But I'd like to prioritize what people want the most. If I can get the sound exactly right minus some functionality for $1500, I'm in. At $3000, I'd have to be absolutely floored to be a player.
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Post by jtc111 on Jan 31, 2019 13:03:40 GMT -6
One reason I didn’t vote for the U67 is Stam is already making one with a Heiserman capsule. Yeah it takes forever to get, but seems like a Heiserman 67 and Stam 67 wouldn’t be that different. Some of us are never giving Stam a dime so another 67 option would be very welcome.
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Post by jtc111 on Jan 30, 2019 23:17:17 GMT -6
The void in the market is a 67 clone that actually sounds like a 67. And doesn’t cost $6999 It's true! We need a $6998 U67 clone, damn it!!! Actually, I'd be a player for around $1500 if it really sounds like a 67.
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Post by jtc111 on Jan 30, 2019 21:19:58 GMT -6
I'm not sure I've seen an M49 clone? That's my favorite mic of all time. EDIT: LOL I just saw someone had one for sale from Advanced Audio in the classifieds. You should make him an offer. It's a nice mic and he has to sell it to avoid punishment on the futon.
That aside, there are 49 clones out there. Flea makes an excellent one and Wunder Audio makes one. There's also the Peluso P-49, the Soundelux E49, the Beesneez BM49 and their Tribute 4. And I believe the Blackspade UM17R also falls into that category.
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Post by jtc111 on Jan 30, 2019 20:15:23 GMT -6
The void in the market is a 67 clone that actually sounds like a 67.
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Post by jtc111 on Jan 28, 2019 22:00:20 GMT -6
I'm on Long Island. But without knowing what anyone is charging to assemble the kit, I don't know if it makes sense to me or not. I think the bending unit was kindly trying to say a discussion like this about fees is best done by private message. I'm a bit thick sometimes. Thanks.
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Post by jtc111 on Jan 28, 2019 21:41:01 GMT -6
I think all the folks that build kits here are pretty much willing to hook it up at the same/ fair price for a fellow RGO'er. Boils down to if you wanna go through reverb, paypal, and of course shipping, so best bet it probably to go with the RGO'er that's closest to you. I've actually been awaiting for Capi to restock on the racks for a month no so I can build myself another, still sitting tight. lol I'm on Long Island. But without knowing what anyone is charging to assemble the kit, I don't know if it makes sense to me or not.
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Post by jtc111 on Jan 28, 2019 21:33:36 GMT -6
Anyone know what folks charge to assemble one of the CAPI rack kits? Bender does I believe. I'd do it too. How much would it cost?
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Post by jtc111 on Jan 28, 2019 20:21:43 GMT -6
Several awesome diy builders here at RGO if you do need the CAPI rack built for you ( I am not one of them haha ) ( not tryna sale you ) What do people charge for the assembly? Just ballpark is fine. Anyone know what folks charge to assemble one of the CAPI rack kits?
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Post by jtc111 on Jan 27, 2019 19:46:45 GMT -6
I am looking at expanding my rack! Rupert Neve, Purple Audio, BAE, API, CAPI....I want a good rack that holds 10 cards, but doesn't skimp on the power. Are they all similar? I heard API is made in China and they don't have enough juice? I like the Rupert Stuff, well built and I like the meter that shows how much juice the rack is using. Several awesome diy builders here at RGO if you do need the CAPI rack built for you ( I am not one of them haha ) ( not tryna sale you ) What do people charge for the assembly? Just ballpark is fine.
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Post by jtc111 on Jan 27, 2019 12:05:39 GMT -6
I love when NAMM comes around and I pay attention to the releases, but nothing I've seen from this one has me excited. The Audio-Scape V-Comp has me interested but I knew that was coming a month ago so my brain isn't counting it as a NAMM release. Outside of that, nothing. I'm getting away cheap this year.
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Post by jtc111 on Jan 27, 2019 1:14:01 GMT -6
Sorry to hear about Buddy. I've been there too many times. Sleep well, wee pup.
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Post by jtc111 on Jan 25, 2019 20:32:22 GMT -6
We are not known for plugging in our stuff in threads, but we have a perfect solution for this kind of shock mount. We will be announcing it at NAMM. Stay tuned... Is this news public yet?
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Post by jtc111 on Jan 24, 2019 21:17:59 GMT -6
Am I understanding this correctly? These are emulations of mics that are models of other mics? No. The U47 and 251 that he chose to model in this set are considered one of, if not the best U47 and 251 in the world. Ahh... I totally misread what you said.
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Post by jtc111 on Jan 24, 2019 19:13:56 GMT -6
Very interested in this! Did you see which mics they modeled? He modeled a U47, 251, C12, M49, and a U67 I think. The ELA M 251 and U47 modeled are literally considered to be two of the best examples of those microphones in the world. Unfortunately, I’m not sure if it will improve the overall sound of the system. We’ll see. Each new set of emulations has been better than the last. Am I understanding this correctly? These are emulations of mics that are models of other mics?
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Post by jtc111 on Jan 24, 2019 18:31:55 GMT -6
I was scared to open this thread for fear I'd be subjected to multiple from behind picture's of JK's sweaty ass on his elliptical. My relief cannot be overstated. Those fears resolved, this is a mic I could be interested in buying at some point. I just wonder if I'd wind up really liking one of the eq settings more than the others and find myself never straying from it. That's probably not a thing that everyone has to worry about but it's a thing I worry about concerning myself. Not sure why that’s worrying...I could say the same thing about the VMS or the Kemper...or the bridge pickup on my Tele I have no experience with the Kemper but my main objection to the VMS is that it starts off with a crappy mic. The mic limits how good the entire system can be. I'm assuming the quality of the Chandler mic is heads and tails better than the Slate mic. If I may appropriate your Tele analogy, it's like the choices you get from a Tele or a Strat. Moving the selection lever gives you different flavors. And while I prefer the sound of the neck pickup when I'm noodling, it's not always to sound I'm looking for on any particular song. If this mic were to work out that way, it would be a good addition, but if I found I was leaving it on one setting all the time, I'd have paid for stuff I'm not using and my money might have been spent better elsewhere. However, as I implied in my original post, this may be something that only concerns me. I'm not suggesting this should be the reason anyone else doesn't buy this microphone. Based on what I've heard so far, I'd be inclined to give it a shot, so what I wrote shouldn't be seen as a knock on the TG or an attempt to discourage anyone from buying it.
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Post by jtc111 on Jan 24, 2019 16:45:49 GMT -6
I was scared to open this thread for fear I'd be subjected to multiple from behind picture's of JK's sweaty ass on his elliptical. My relief cannot be overstated. Those fears resolved, this is a mic I could be interested in buying at some point. I just wonder if I'd wind up really liking one of the eq settings more than the others and find myself never straying from it. That's probably not a thing that everyone has to worry about but it's a thing I worry about concerning myself.
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Post by jtc111 on Jan 22, 2019 21:36:29 GMT -6
I want this one. And I'm really hoping he comes out with a Curve Bender clone. I drooled a little bit typing this.
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Post by jtc111 on Jan 19, 2019 10:20:06 GMT -6
I'm doubtful you'll find a shockmount that works for that mic but you may be able to put something between the mic and the stand to absorb some of the vibration. It's a shot in the dark, but I'm wondering if a gooseneck might help. If you arch it to give it some spring, it might make a positive difference, and it would only cost you around $10 to find out.
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Post by jtc111 on Jan 18, 2019 14:16:53 GMT -6
jtc111 , the U87ai is definitely the reason the emulations sound good. I may do a video featuring both EFX and Mic Room with the U87ai and a much cheaper mic. I think the results of that are predictable but I also think it's a good idea for a video. I suspect that the real failure of the Slate VMS is the physical mic more than anything else. And since he handcuffs his customers to a subpar microphone, there's no opportunity for the user to improve upon the product. The Antares and IK software allow the user to improve the quality of the emulations on the front end.
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Post by jtc111 on Jan 18, 2019 1:14:39 GMT -6
Well done, Vin. It's been more than a year since I've heard some of these and my ears are telling me the same thing as then. The Flea 47 blows the others out of the water. That become especially apparent in the mix audio. The sound is somehow bigger without being louder. It just envelopes the listener in a way the other mics cannot.
The Advanced Audio mics are just really good value for the money. I remember when you were first running various recording samples by Jack and myself, we both thought that CM49 sounded great on your voice and it still does. I know my Flea 47 was a bit of a revelation to you and put you on the path to buy a Flea 49 (something I suspect your wife would like to smack me in the head for doing), but if you had done a full album with that mic, it would have sounded pretty damn good. Not as good as the Flea, but pretty damn good. For anyone that wants to get the 49 vibe and not spend $4300 on the Flea, the CM49 is a nice option at under $1k.
I liked the CM48T more this time around than I did the first time. I think it was the night you were recording these tracks when you did some takes with the 48. We were both impressed by the sound of it but trying to make it sit in a mix made it lose something. It's not losing anything now so I'm going to attribute how I felt about it that night to user error at the time.
The Slate stuff never fails to disappoint my ears. It's the microphone version of a Dementor; it sucks all the joy out of the world. That may be a bit harsh, but so is the mic. The FG47 MKII made you sound like you had a sock stuffed in one cheek. I wasn't paying close attention to the screen and it kinda startled me when I heard it the first time. I looked up, saw what it was, and mumbled "Figures" to myself.
The 563 model sounded okay, better than the Slate, but I felt it lacked the character of even the AA mics. I feel like it could work on some voices but I don't think it compliments yours.
The surprise to me was the Antares Mic Modeler. Based on my own experiences with it 15 or so years ago, I expected it to be much worse. Of course they've no doubt improved the software in that time, but then I realized there was more to it than that. I bought that software back when I didn't have much money to invest in microphones. The only mic I owned that was on the input list was a Shure SM58. You're imputing with a Neumann U87 Ai. My guess is that's the biggest difference. I'm doubtful that most people using that mic are going to have a $3200 Neumann on the front end. It would be interesting to hear what comes out of that plugin when using less expensive mics for the input.
Anyway, that's my change back from a nickle. For others, YMMV.
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Post by jtc111 on Jan 15, 2019 12:09:48 GMT -6
In the first video, I thought it sounded really nice on the acoustic guitar track. And I like what the turbo mode did for electric guitar in the second video. But I'm a little confused. In the final product, the turbo switch is labeled s-c (side chain). Is that switch performing the same function? I don't know enough about the original version of this compressor and the DIY turbo mod.
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Post by jtc111 on Jan 10, 2019 15:40:10 GMT -6
Implementations of AI will be the next major force for DAW's.... Not looking forward to it really, but it's here and it's coming. I have a buddy whose business was acquired and he was tapped to be CEO of a big AI company. His net worth went up 10X instantaneously (mid 8 digits - WILD!). It's here. People are pouring HUGE amounts of money into it. Sigh..... We're already seeing plugins using AI of some fashion. The Sonible smart:EQ 2 is one I own and find very useful on some problematic tracks; however, it's not something I'd reach for if a track was recorded well from the get go. I think we'll start to see full channel strips using AI before too long where the AI will set level (maybe including some automation), eq, compression, de-esser, etc. And it probably won't be too long after that where folks will be able to input a reference track and have some AI program get their tracks pretty close to that mix, perhaps even incorporating mastering in the process and eliminating the need for that step.
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Post by jtc111 on Jan 8, 2019 19:41:57 GMT -6
I don't think I ever had a "fantasy rack" but I really do like what I have now and I'm not actively looking for any mic-pres. Currently, I have a 2-channel Hardy M1, a Demeter VTMP-2c, a Sebatron Axis 200VU, and a Hendy DaVinci. I also have a UA X8p and some of the unison pres but it's the outboard stuff that I really enjoy.
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