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Post by mdmitch2 on Jan 30, 2019 19:37:35 GMT -6
So we've got the H47 shipping soon, and the H47 Tube well underway, as well as a few projects that we're not quite ready to discuss yet... But we'd love to get some feedback on what mics you guys would like to see next. I'm limiting the poll to microphones for which we already have great capsules ready.
Also, do you want to see versions of these mics that perfectly capture the tones of these famous mics, or would you like to see some twist on the original designs?
By the way, we definitely have an SDC in our sites, but that'll take a bit longer since we don't currently manufacture an SDC capsule, and it'll take some time to properly develop one.
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Post by Vincent R. on Jan 30, 2019 19:53:12 GMT -6
Reposting what I said on the other thread.
Basically you can’t go wrong with the big tube legends; 47, 49, 67, 251, 12. The big FET workhorses aren’t bad ideas either; 87, 414, etc. Other’s may enjoy an 800 or 269 as well. There are options for most of these on the market right now though. The 67 is really in vogue right now, especially with the reissue being a dad lacking in the low end in comparison to the older vintage 67s.
If you can come up with some SDC options like the 84, that would work. No one is really doing the KM56 or KM54. Something tells me those would do really well if done right. I know you don’t make those capsules, but it’s worth the mention.
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Post by jtc111 on Jan 30, 2019 20:15:23 GMT -6
The void in the market is a 67 clone that actually sounds like a 67.
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Post by timcampbell on Jan 30, 2019 20:16:52 GMT -6
Why not try for something original instead. You can't turn around these days without tripping over a clone of every one of the mics you mentioned at every price point.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 30, 2019 20:17:46 GMT -6
The void in the market is a 67 clone that actually sounds like a 67. And doesn’t cost $6999
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Post by mdmitch2 on Jan 30, 2019 20:23:51 GMT -6
Why not try for something original instead. You can't turn around these days without tripping over a clone of every one of the mics you mentioned at every price point. Hey Tim, we do have some original mics in the works, and the first should launch later this year.... but we also think we can offer some high quality versions of some clones at a better price point than most, so we’ll be pursuing both paths.
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Post by superwack on Jan 30, 2019 20:44:19 GMT -6
HM70s? (Gefell UM70s with the transformer!)
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Post by jeromemason on Jan 30, 2019 21:06:27 GMT -6
I'm not sure I've seen an M49 clone? That's my favorite mic of all time.
EDIT: LOL I just saw someone had one for sale from Advanced Audio in the classifieds.
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Post by jtc111 on Jan 30, 2019 21:19:58 GMT -6
I'm not sure I've seen an M49 clone? That's my favorite mic of all time. EDIT: LOL I just saw someone had one for sale from Advanced Audio in the classifieds. You should make him an offer. It's a nice mic and he has to sell it to avoid punishment on the futon.
That aside, there are 49 clones out there. Flea makes an excellent one and Wunder Audio makes one. There's also the Peluso P-49, the Soundelux E49, the Beesneez BM49 and their Tribute 4. And I believe the Blackspade UM17R also falls into that category.
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Post by jeromemason on Jan 30, 2019 21:26:30 GMT -6
Shows how long I've been out of the recording game....... I wouldn't ever use the mic if I did buy it and got a stupid deal on it, wouldn't do me any good.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Jan 30, 2019 21:28:17 GMT -6
I think a U67 that sounds like a 67 would be brilliant. Recently there have been a few new 67 style mics that are affordable. I have high hopes the Stam will get it right, but the first US company that gets it right under $1299 will sell a boatload.
Roswell made a truly usable mic in their Delphos, the Warm 47 sounds pretty good, the Lewitt 640 sounds as good as a 414 only with a better low end at $799, so I think it must be possible to dial in a real U67 sound at a great price.
As far as a U67 goes, if you can capture that sound there's no need to try anything "modern" on it. If you get it right, you'll have essentially the greatest sounding mic imaginable. No one's nailed it so far. I've tried every classic vintage mic there is and find the 67 to be the most remarkable.
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Post by drbill on Jan 30, 2019 21:58:50 GMT -6
C12 M49 M50 M269 In that order. But there are enough "average clones" out there. What there aren't enough of are exceptional clones. Also, the world has enough 47's, 87's 67's (OK, probably not so many good 67's....) BUT, if they are really exceptional, I suppose there's always room for more. I'd second the thought about an "original" sounding mic - although I think it would be a tough sell in today's market. Somehow I don't think we've exhausted the recording potential of microphones 30-50 years ago. My $0.02.
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Post by drbill on Jan 30, 2019 22:01:29 GMT -6
HM70s? (Gefell UM70s with the transformer!) THIS ^^^^ is a great idea, but it would have to be a real M7, and it would have to be cheap cause there (at least the last time I looked...) are so many good ones still left and available at what I would consider reasonable prices. And yeah, transformer version.
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Post by indiehouse on Jan 30, 2019 22:37:51 GMT -6
Affordable, but excellent, M49.
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Post by indiehouse on Jan 30, 2019 22:40:34 GMT -6
With correct body/head basket
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Post by jtc111 on Jan 30, 2019 23:17:17 GMT -6
The void in the market is a 67 clone that actually sounds like a 67. And doesn’t cost $6999 It's true! We need a $6998 U67 clone, damn it!!! Actually, I'd be a player for around $1500 if it really sounds like a 67.
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Post by chessparov on Jan 30, 2019 23:36:42 GMT -6
I totally agree on the HM70!
A 67 FET might be an interesting idea, to challenge the TLM67 & U87ai, at a lower price point.
I got more interested in FET versions, after I discovered a quality FET style 47... Works as well the tube version, on my voice.
Sorry to say the Warm Jr. 47 didn't cut it for me. "Smaller than life" vocals on me.
Vintage U87i style would be cool too.. Chris
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Post by sirthought on Jan 31, 2019 5:45:26 GMT -6
M49 is at the top of my list. Your 47 capsule might work for it, but it could be a reason to try a M7 capsule.
I'd be interested in Gefell style as well.
The modern mics that spark my interest are the TG fet, the Roswell Colares, and this new Vanguard mic at NAMM (forget the name). But these mics that offer quality options to change up the sound.
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Post by brenta on Jan 31, 2019 6:49:53 GMT -6
M49 with the option to purchase it with a k47 capsule or an m7.
414eb would be amazing too if you can nail it.
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Post by bowie on Jan 31, 2019 7:04:31 GMT -6
I'm not sure I've seen an M49 clone? That's my favorite mic of all time. EDIT: LOL I just saw someone had one for sale from Advanced Audio in the classifieds. I agree with you in that there's a lack of M49s in the mid-teir market that actually sound like M49s. The mic has a very distinctive sound to it that comes from the circuit itself and it isn't hard to capture that vibe. Wunder and Flea do a good job but that's in the higher price bracket. Good, cheap bodies are now being produced for these.
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Post by mdmitch2 on Jan 31, 2019 8:05:47 GMT -6
Thanks for the feedback thus far -- looks like the U67 and M49 and neck and neck. I'm kind of surprised that there's not more interest in a 251... I've probably had more requests for that mic over the last year than any other.
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Post by mdmitch2 on Jan 31, 2019 8:07:22 GMT -6
With correct body/head basket When you say 'correct body' I'm assuming you mean the size/shape of the body and not necessarily the internal construction? Affordability goes out the door once you try to replicate all of the internals of a mic.
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Post by rpc on Jan 31, 2019 8:42:48 GMT -6
For us classical music types a convincing (and reliable) M50 would be awesome. With a good M49 body and power supply you'd be well on your way. Rode has been threatening to release their TFM50 for a while now, but nothing seems to ever come of it.
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Post by sean on Jan 31, 2019 8:57:34 GMT -6
One of the few microphones I've used that made me go "wow, that sounds done" is a M249 that's at Sound Emporium that used to belong to Garth Fundis...handpicked for recording Trisha Yearwood's vocals after trying about a dozen. And I've used a fair share of vintage 47s, 251s, 67s, and the like. I think an affordable 251 would be nice, even if it was similar to the Bock 241 that was cardioid only. But I voted C12
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Post by mdmitch2 on Jan 31, 2019 9:10:39 GMT -6
For us classical music types a convincing (and reliable) M50 would be awesome. With a good M49 body and power supply you'd be well on your way. Rode has been threatening to release their TFM50 for a while now, but nothing seems to ever come of it. I've heard about you guys I think the M50 would be cool to make, especially if we already had an M49 body. The trick would be the capsule.... so this type of project would be a good bit down the road.
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