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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 25, 2018 16:03:59 GMT -6
I've run into this a bunch...when PT recognizes a new I/O Matrix, or if you're using a new interface (I've had a few), if you delete and hit default, in the IO Matrix, it will wipe all your outputs, panning and sends. My workaround has been to just not hit delete, but to only hit default and it adds the new ones in without deleting the old. But then, of course, the naming nomenclature is different. Is there a way around this?
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 25, 2018 16:04:46 GMT -6
Well, maybe not different, but it has the old routing in the new when you click on the output...
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Post by lcr on Sept 25, 2018 16:13:27 GMT -6
Not sure if If this helps, I always save presets for routing and template(s). One trick I like to do is start my labeled bussing at 129-130 so then any outside session created not with my routing / templates usually wont conflict with my busses, assuming those sessions use routing 1-128.
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Post by Blackdawg on Sept 25, 2018 16:21:17 GMT -6
As said, save your I/O routing as an I/O template. Bottom left corner you'll see Export/Import in the I/O window.
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 25, 2018 16:26:09 GMT -6
Point is, if I import a routing matrix, it zeroes out all panning and wipes all sends.
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Post by mulmany on Sept 25, 2018 16:28:16 GMT -6
I believe there is an over write option, or to just add to it.
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Post by Blackdawg on Sept 25, 2018 20:19:49 GMT -6
Point is, if I import a routing matrix, it zeroes out all panning and wipes all sends. Youre talking about mid session? It should ask if you want to keep your buses. The actual outputs will change though. If you just use named busses even for your real outputs, it'll maintain it and just reroute the "bus" to the new output. |
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Post by jeromemason on Sept 25, 2018 21:06:00 GMT -6
You can always change you inputs/outputs in the I/O setup, it's just when you go to the actual bus routing tab that you can wipe out all of your sends, volume and panning. Best way to save it is just set them all to an aux bus, then actually go into the bus routing tab, delete all the hardware busses and then hit default, then change your outputs to where you want them.
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Post by adamjbrass on Sept 26, 2018 6:57:02 GMT -6
This is like, the most annoying thing to me about Pro Tools. I’m constantly having to 1) Delete all/input, 2)default 3)delete all/output 4)default 5)delete all/bus 6)default
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Post by Blackdawg on Sept 26, 2018 10:27:52 GMT -6
Im confused as to why you guys do this?
Do you not use templates overall?
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 26, 2018 18:35:00 GMT -6
I get PT sessions to mix and they have different IO...I usually open that session and import the session data from my template that I want...maybe I do it backwards from other people. Before I import, I wipe all IO, so it’s not an issue here...but if I were to first import my session data (with sends and aux’s) and then change the IO, it would remove all my sends and bus routing. So, obviously I don’t do that. But occasionally I’ll open a session that I mixed on a different interface and I need to change the IO...which if I did, would wipe everything out. The only way around it - and I guess it’s not that big of a deal - is to just hit default in the bus section and also add in the new interface IO options...but then you have both interfaces routing when you select in the daw...or some bastardized version of the two. It’s just not clean.
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Post by Blackdawg on Sept 26, 2018 23:21:18 GMT -6
Ah okay im following you.
Well do you know the keyboard short cuts for Bus assignments?
If you hold option and select a bus ALL track change to that output.
If you select a range of tracks(Click+Shift on tracks) and then hold down SHIFT + Option then select a bus. All of those selected track change to that bus.
To do descending numerically hold Option + Command. This cascades your bus outputs in order. Handy if you have your Aux tracks say bused to your SB2.
Shift+Option+Command will do descending outputs for just the selected range.
Holding control down gives you two outputs on one track. Just hold control and select your second output.
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Post by jeremygillespie on Sept 27, 2018 8:51:57 GMT -6
I get PT sessions to mix and they have different IO...I usually open that session and import the session data from my template that I want...maybe I do it backwards from other people. Before I import, I wipe all IO, so it’s not an issue here...but if I were to first import my session data (with sends and aux’s) and then change the IO, it would remove all my sends and bus routing. So, obviously I don’t do that. But occasionally I’ll open a session that I mixed on a different interface and I need to change the IO...which if I did, would wipe everything out. The only way around it - and I guess it’s not that big of a deal - is to just hit default in the bus section and also add in the new interface IO options...but then you have both interfaces routing when you select in the daw...or some bastardized version of the two. It’s just not clean. I usually go through in the I/O and delete the ones from the interface you aren’t using any longer. It’s a PITA but makes it clean once again. |
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Post by adamjbrass on Sept 27, 2018 15:36:25 GMT -6
Im confused as to why you guys do this? Do you not use templates overall? My problems stem [pun intended] from a few things. First, I share my studio computer with another engineer, so there are seperate Mac user accounts. This is why I think my I/O's get goofy whenever I boot up my account. Second, I think its just buggy. I am on 12.5.2. They keep claiming they fixed this problem, and made the I/O way better...but its still majorly annoying. Like, my I/O's are correct. But nothing plays out into my output path, and nothing gets into my input path. WTF? I don't know..can't figure it out. So I go into I/O setups, do a little dance and spin around like a top, redoing it all. Now it works. Its almost like a sick ritual. Highly aggrevating. |
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Post by Blackdawg on Sept 27, 2018 17:03:09 GMT -6
Im confused as to why you guys do this? Do you not use templates overall? My problems stem [pun intended] from a few things. First, I share my studio computer with another engineer, so there are seperate Mac user accounts. This is why I think my I/O's get goofy whenever I boot up my account. Second, I think its just buggy. I am on 12.5.2. They keep claiming they fixed this problem, and made the I/O way better...but its still majorly annoying. Like, my I/O's are correct. But nothing plays out into my output path, and nothing gets into my input path. WTF? I don't know..can't figure it out. So I go into I/O setups, do a little dance and spin around like a top, redoing it all. Now it works. Its almost like a sick ritual. Highly aggrevating. Dude yeah update. The newest update has some sweet features. The menus are check boxes now so you can select multiple things at once. So cool. |
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Post by adamjbrass on Sept 28, 2018 9:51:11 GMT -6
My problems stem [pun intended] from a few things. First, I share my studio computer with another engineer, so there are seperate Mac user accounts. This is why I think my I/O's get goofy whenever I boot up my account. Second, I think its just buggy. I am on 12.5.2. They keep claiming they fixed this problem, and made the I/O way better...but its still majorly annoying. Like, my I/O's are correct. But nothing plays out into my output path, and nothing gets into my input path. WTF? I don't know..can't figure it out. So I go into I/O setups, do a little dance and spin around like a top, redoing it all. Now it works. Its almost like a sick ritual. Highly aggrevating. Dude yeah update. The newest update has some sweet features. The menus are check boxes now so you can select multiple things at once. So cool. I am hard pressed to drink their Koolaid on things like this with Avid. One problem turns into many. |
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Post by drbill on Sept 28, 2018 14:08:27 GMT -6
12.4 here. Never have any problems like this Adam, but I'm not switching users or interfaces,,,,,,
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Post by adamjbrass on Sept 28, 2018 19:09:57 GMT -6
12.4 here. Never have any problems like this Adam, but I'm not switching users or interfaces,,,,,, Switching user accounts and interfaces is what is giving me the sandpaper glove |
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Post by swurveman on Sept 29, 2018 9:13:48 GMT -6
This is one of the things I love about Cubase. You set up your Group Channels and in the Mix Console Window all you have to do is select what channels you want to route to those channels and then just change the output at the top of the channels. You can do one channel or a dozen by just toggling the Quick Link button So, simple.
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Post by drbill on Sept 29, 2018 10:12:48 GMT -6
I think PT does the same thing. Not sure I 100% comprehend what you're saying. The i/o matrix is what the subject of this thread is about though, and that's something completely different. But PT i/o assignments are a dream IMO. Toggle all inputs or outputs in hundred channel sessions instantly, make them "incremental" all with a single keystroke. BUT, back to the topic - the matrix i/o setup page.... I bet there is a slick workaround if you talk to AVID tech support. But maybe not...... This is the kind of high tech stuff that the dub stages do all day long, and they have this stuff wired. I never do it, so I'm completely clueless on the different users / different interface thing.
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 29, 2018 10:43:56 GMT -6
Really, the problem I’m having is jumping into a session that has been mixed on another interface and already has Aux's and sends assigned...if you were to go into IO and remove the old bus routing by deleting and defaulting to the new interface, it would completely wipe out all the sends and panning. I’ve found you can just hit default and it adds the new routing in addition to the old, but still has all the old routing when you click on Outputs or busses. Not a huge deal, it would just be nice if you could wipe out the old interface, but the sends and panning remain the way it is...
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Post by indiehouse on Sept 29, 2018 12:02:10 GMT -6
Really, the problem I’m having is jumping into a session that has been mixed on another interface and already has Aux's and sends assigned...if you were to go into IO and remove the old bus routing by deleting and defaulting to the new interface, it would completely wipe out all the sends and panning. I’ve found you can just hit default and it adds the new routing in addition to the old, but still has all the old routing when you click on Outputs or busses. Not a huge deal, it would just be nice if you could wipe out the old interface, but the sends and panning remain the way it is... When was switching between interfaces, I would set the inputs and outputs to default, but go into the buss section and sort by active (I think that’s what it’s called). Then I could easily delete all inactive stuff leftover from the previous interface. |
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Post by drbill on Sept 29, 2018 13:43:20 GMT -6
There's a trick way to do this. When I used to work at Capitol a lot, the second there always set up my orch record sessions for me. He did it quick and efficiently (30-40 sessions in about a half hour), but honestly, I'm not quite sure how he did it (i was busy with other stuff) - whether by feature or by templates, I'm not sure.... But there's a quick way somewhere.
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Post by drbill on Sept 29, 2018 13:47:16 GMT -6
Really, the problem I’m having is jumping into a session that has been mixed on another interface and already has Aux's and sends assigned...if you were to go into IO and remove the old bus routing by deleting and defaulting to the new interface, it would completely wipe out all the sends and panning. I’ve found you can just hit default and it adds the new routing in addition to the old, but still has all the old routing when you click on Outputs or busses. Not a huge deal, it would just be nice if you could wipe out the old interface, but the sends and panning remain the way it is... John, not sure if I am understanding 100%, but can't you delete the physical interface inputs and outputs, add in the new interface, and then route the internal busses that are assigned to feed the physical outputs to the new interface? No panning or aux sends would be lost. |
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Post by jeremygillespie on Sept 29, 2018 18:42:52 GMT -6
Really, the problem I’m having is jumping into a session that has been mixed on another interface and already has Aux's and sends assigned...if you were to go into IO and remove the old bus routing by deleting and defaulting to the new interface, it would completely wipe out all the sends and panning. I’ve found you can just hit default and it adds the new routing in addition to the old, but still has all the old routing when you click on Outputs or busses. Not a huge deal, it would just be nice if you could wipe out the old interface, but the sends and panning remain the way it is... This is my work around - open session and do then “Save as” with the new interface in the name - change your I/O for your new interface - do “import session data” and make it so you import volume and automation, bus assignments, input and output assignments. Everything should then be back to how your old session was, but with the I/O of your new interface. Kind of a weird work around, but it should work and will be the easiest way to deal with your situation. |
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