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Post by RicFoxx on Feb 8, 2014 20:26:16 GMT -6
Ive started to notice the weaknesses that some manufacturers have outlined in the the 500 series form. Like decreased stability.
I have 2 Capi VP28's that are fabulous but also 2 compressors and when I added the 2nd compressor in my 500 rack things started to act funny. My rack equipment doesn't suffer this phenomena.
Anyone else disenfranchised???
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Post by littlesicily on Feb 8, 2014 20:44:11 GMT -6
Nope. Got the 51x rack... (2) vp28's, ez1073, LaChapell 583s...had few more things in it and running great. No issues.
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 8, 2014 20:51:33 GMT -6
Well, you wouldn't have VP28's if you only had rack equipment. And decent 19" compressors usually start on the low end around $1200 - WA76 excluded (I'm getting one)...I've had some weird things go on with my older Brent Averill rack...but I kind of look at it as a rack problem, not a 500 series problem.
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Post by tonycamphd on Feb 8, 2014 21:25:16 GMT -6
Good call JK, Rick what rack are u using? there is no reason a properly designed and built psu/500 rack and unit, would be any less stable than anything else, an API consoles modules run off the same +-16v as ur rack should, and they're tremendously sought after, serious pro audio rigs.
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Post by tasteliketape on Feb 8, 2014 21:31:18 GMT -6
Three racks full with no issues two api 6 space and a Tonelux 4
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Post by svart on Feb 8, 2014 21:52:29 GMT -6
I haven't found any issues, but I'm not enamored with it either. I could take it or leave it. I like it because the modules can be very cheap, but I'm not going to go crazy and switch everything over to 500.
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Post by tonycamphd on Feb 8, 2014 23:42:39 GMT -6
I agree with svart, 500's are a tool like anything else, I do absolutely love the space saving of the 500 stuff though!
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Post by RicFoxx on Feb 9, 2014 6:41:28 GMT -6
Maybe its my chassis. I have heard of different issues where guys had to plug there cards into different slots and also where once they get close to filling up the rack, things get hairy. Thats what is happening to me. Rack is Lindell 506.
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Post by tonycamphd on Feb 9, 2014 10:58:58 GMT -6
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 9, 2014 11:56:37 GMT -6
BWAAAAHHHAAAAAA...
No offense, Rick...but we're not big Lindell fans over here.
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Post by jeromemason on Feb 9, 2014 12:00:28 GMT -6
BWAAAAHHHAAAAAA... No offense, Rick...but we're not big Lindell fans over here. I LOL'd |
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Post by wreck on Feb 9, 2014 12:30:35 GMT -6
My original version API 6 slot can't handle 6 press in it. I can put 5 press and an eq in there and it's fine. But it won't run the 6 pre cards I have. The card in the last slot doesn't get enough power; I'd love a CAPI rack - that's what most of my pres are but I can't build that power unit.
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Post by grummy on Feb 9, 2014 14:04:00 GMT -6
What is this G9 tube pre you speaketh of? DIY? Links? On topic I've got a six space API LB full up (well I suppose I've hot one two slot filling MP500nv in there) and it works a charm. I've also started filling one of Jeff's 508 backplanes (for the future modular console) that I'm currently using just as a 51x eight space lunchbox. I've already got another mp500 on the way two Studer 169eq kits to build and a JLM LA500 kit waiting to be built. I like the space saved, the price, and the portability when needed. I doubt that'll ever change. For the most part I shoot for 500series over 19" because of those benefits. Has a lot to do with how spall my space is here. That said I'm considering getting a rack that I can tuck in here somewhere. There are a few things I'd like that just aren't available in 500/51x. Like the AC Sound Pi 3141 compressor. I've been drooling over that thing far too long. If he hadn't suggested that he's coming out with a DIY kit for it and then later a 500 series version I would have bitten the bullet on one already. But it's been years since either of those claims and I have yet to see kit or 500 series. All the best to him though I read a while back he's just been too busy with current orders to get to putting kits or 500 series versions together. I really want that slice of Pi. |
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Post by RicFoxx on Feb 9, 2014 14:53:34 GMT -6
BWAAAAHHHAAAAAA... No offense, Rick...but we're not big Lindell fans over here. Yeah, Yeah, Yeah laugh all you want. Bought this to dabble in the 500 paid $250 for it and you get what you pay for. You live and learn. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 9, 2014 14:57:12 GMT -6
By no means am I laughing AT you. I was banned over at GS because I pointed out that it was a major conflict of interest to have manufacturers, gear pimps and advertisers as moderators. Wonder how long a anti Lindell thread would last on GS?
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Post by jeromemason on Feb 9, 2014 15:25:02 GMT -6
BWAAAAHHHAAAAAA... No offense, Rick...but we're not big Lindell fans over here. Yeah, Yeah, Yeah laugh all you want. Bought this to dabble in the 500 paid $250 for it and you get what you pay for. You live and learn. The only thing is that I worry about the gear a little, I remember when his PEX-500's first hit the street, man they were selling like crazy, but some people had problems with them catching on fire and the opamps melting. For me they just didn't really do anything because of limited eq points. I've never had any prolems with my 500 rack, just one of the newest API racks. For $424 they are a good deal. The way I see this, either I'm going to use something that's built by the people that came up with the freaking format, or I'll build my own. No way am I putting expensive cards in a hurried mass produced box. That's the problem, I think they get around a lot of the testing time and it allows them to build that stuff for much cheaper. |
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Post by grummy on Feb 9, 2014 15:38:17 GMT -6
Another good option is the Radial boxes. From what I can tell they are rock solid, with beefy power supplies, with a handful of extra features. That said if you build your own you could add those features yourself, make the power supply as beefy as you want, AND most importantly could go 51x. Then it opens doors to bunch of modules unavailable in the 500series. Personally if I were to get another pre-made 500 series powersupply I'd go Radial hands down. Probably get the workhorse and make use of the summing bus on there too. But Radials, 3, and six space units look pretty sweet too. You can also get the workhorse without the mixer section as an eight space rack to save a few bills.
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Post by RicFoxx on Feb 9, 2014 17:07:03 GMT -6
By no means am I laughing AT you. I was banned over at GS because I pointed out that it was a major conflict of interest to have manufacturers, gear pimps and advertisers as moderators. Wonder how long a anti Lindell thread would last on GS? Im really laughing at myself...I know better that to buy cheap crap! Although I will say that the Art VLAII is pretty cheap but not bad. Im still kinda of miffed why people overlook the seventh circle stuff...top notch! |
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Post by tonycamphd on Feb 9, 2014 19:17:46 GMT -6
Yeah, Yeah, Yeah laugh all you want. Bought this to dabble in the 500 paid $250 for it and you get what you pay for. You live and learn. That's the problem, I think they get around a lot of the testing time and it allows them to build that stuff for much cheaper. It's not complicated stuff in a PSU, u either use a good design, with good parts or not.... Testing is old hat for these things, it's a tried and true technology, real deal electronics guys know exactly what they're gonna get on layout, Lindell new he'd sell a lot of product using cheap components in a slick package, he's no dummy |
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Post by lolo on Feb 9, 2014 19:41:19 GMT -6
So hear's the deal.
Im no fan of any Lindell gear. Wont buy any of his pre's,eq's, comps etc...
BUT i did grab his 500 series rack. Been using it since it came out.have Capi VP28's, Heritage 73Jr and a JLM LA 500 in there. Haven't had one problem(touch wood). For me it was a steal at that price. Filling the last 2 slots soon.
And if everything is still running fine i might grab another one. Sue me fellas :-)
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Post by jeromemason on Feb 9, 2014 19:45:35 GMT -6
That's the problem, I think they get around a lot of the testing time and it allows them to build that stuff for much cheaper. It's not complicated stuff in a PSU, u either use a good design, with good parts or not.... Testing is old hat for these things, it's a tried and true technology, real deal electronics guys know exactly what they're gonna get on layout, Lindell new he'd sell a lot of product using cheap components in a slick package, he's no dummy That's true. He needs to figure out what the deal is though with some of those components melting and catching on fire in the eq's he made though. That could really screw someone up. |
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Post by jcoutu1 on Feb 9, 2014 19:54:45 GMT -6
This new 8 slot API looks like a killer deal to me. Same $424 price tag as the 6, just two extra slots. Plus, everyone works in 8's. Sign me up.
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Post by RicFoxx on Feb 9, 2014 20:46:49 GMT -6
So hear's the deal. Im no fan of any Lindell gear. Wont buy any of his pre's,eq's, comps etc... BUT i did grab his 500 series rack. Been using it since it came out.have Capi VP28's, Heritage 73Jr and a JLM LA 500 in there. Haven't had one problem(touch wood). For me it was a steal at that price. Filling the last 2 slots soon. And if everything is still running fine i might grab another one. Sue me fellas :-) Adding the fifth slot is when things started going wooly! |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2014 21:10:13 GMT -6
By no means am I laughing AT you. I was banned over at GS because I pointed out that it was a major conflict of interest to have manufacturers, gear pimps and advertisers as moderators. Wonder how long a anti Lindell thread would last on GS? With that said, I'd hate to see this forum stoop to that level. I've heard good things about the modules and you can't deny that at their price point they're something pretty special. I have no experience with them to speak of. I don't get into 500 series because I think it's a gateway and only better at saving space than money. Remember kids, you divide the price of the rack by the amount of cards it holds and add that onto your modules and that's the real cost per unit. In most cases you're not saving much, if any. Sure it's portable and saves space and there are lots of pieces that are exclusively for that format which is a perfectly good reason to get into it. I see too many morons on the purple planet saying it's so cheap, clearly not accounting for this. |
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Post by jcoutu1 on Feb 9, 2014 21:18:33 GMT -6
By no means am I laughing AT you. I was banned over at GS because I pointed out that it was a major conflict of interest to have manufacturers, gear pimps and advertisers as moderators. Wonder how long a anti Lindell thread would last on GS? With that said, I'd hate to see this forum stoop to that level. I've heard good things about the modules and you can't deny that at their price point they're something pretty special. I have no experience with them to speak of. I don't get into 500 series because I think it's a gateway and only better at saving space than money. Remember kids, you divide the price of the rack by the amount of cards it holds and add that onto your modules and that's the real cost per unit. In most cases you're not saving much, if any. Sure it's portable and saves space and there are lots of pieces that are exclusively for that format which is a perfectly good reason to get into it. I see too many morons on the purple planet saying it's so cheap, clearly not accounting for this. I agree that it's not that cheap and most people don't account for the power cost of another $60 or so per slot. I still dig it though. Nice way to get a few different flavors. |
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