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Post by Quint on Apr 3, 2018 17:56:07 GMT -6
The SB2 paired with the forthcoming vca automation sounds more appealing to me than the SB1.
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Post by jsteiger on Apr 3, 2018 20:17:19 GMT -6
jsteiger The only rack is the full 19” rack right? Will there be Black empty space panels available? Yes and yes! |
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Post by jsteiger on Apr 3, 2018 20:20:44 GMT -6
Still trying to sort the differences between SumBus 1 and 2. I get that SB1 has a max channel count of 16 (mono), and the SB2 has 16 stereo channels, right? Are they sonically similar? Under what circumstances would one be desirable over the other? They are sonically identical as the signal path is the same, besides the pots being in the audio path for the SB1. Work flow and personal preference answers what would work for one over the other. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 3, 2018 20:22:53 GMT -6
jsteiger How are you going to unwell his from my rack?
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Post by jsteiger on Apr 3, 2018 20:25:14 GMT -6
jsteiger How are you going to unwell his from my rack? I have been contemplating. I guess I will bring Joel and we will both be armed.  |
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Post by ericn on Apr 3, 2018 21:24:53 GMT -6
jsteiger How are you going to unwell his from my rack? I have been contemplating. I guess I will bring Joel and we will both be armed. I would offer the services of Mickey the Pitbull mix in exchange for next in line, but he would just roll on his back and say rub my belly! |
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Post by Blackdawg on Apr 14, 2018 23:08:26 GMT -6
The instagram photos from Jeff suggest this kit will be on the market very soon!!
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Post by jsteiger on Apr 15, 2018 9:35:10 GMT -6
The instagram photos from Jeff suggest this kit will be on the market very soon!! Yes we are getting deep into the parts sorting. We still have a ways to go and then I need to figure out the support docs/build info etc. ALTHOUGH, that may be somewhat limited since IMHO anyone who buys this gargantuan kit sure as heck better be DIY savvy! |
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Post by Blackdawg on Apr 15, 2018 11:57:22 GMT -6
The instagram photos from Jeff suggest this kit will be on the market very soon!! Yes we are getting deep into the parts sorting. We still have a ways to go and then I need to figure out the support docs/build info etc. ALTHOUGH, that may be somewhat limited since IMHO anyone who buys this gargantuan kit sure as heck better be DIY savvy! HA! no doubt! Gonna be a big kit to put together! Im excited for it. |
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Post by Bender on Apr 15, 2018 11:59:07 GMT -6
The instagram photos from Jeff suggest this kit will be on the market very soon!! Yes we are getting deep into the parts sorting. We still have a ways to go and then I need to figure out the support docs/build info etc. ALTHOUGH, that may be somewhat limited since IMHO anyone who buys this gargantuan kit sure as heck better be DIY savvy! I can't wait to get some builds going for others on these puppies. Any idea about a ballpark of man hours involved in building ? Soldering Iron's heating up.....  |
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Post by jsteiger on Apr 15, 2018 13:54:28 GMT -6
Yes we are getting deep into the parts sorting. We still have a ways to go and then I need to figure out the support docs/build info etc. ALTHOUGH, that may be somewhat limited since IMHO anyone who buys this gargantuan kit sure as heck better be DIY savvy! I can't wait to get some builds going for others on these puppies. Any idea about a ballpark of man hours involved in building ? Soldering Iron's heating up..... I'd have to double check with Joel but I think a full on 32x4 was around 70 55 hours. It is in no way a cheap or quick build. They won't end up the most expensive summing mixers on the market but will also be far from the cheapest. The "semi modular" design is not a low cost method but something that I think is super key. Not sure if anyone else is making something expandable? |
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Post by ericn on Apr 15, 2018 15:55:50 GMT -6
I can't wait to get some builds going for others on these puppies. Any idea about a ballpark of man hours involved in building ? Soldering Iron's heating up..... I'd have to double check with Joel but I think a full on 32x4 was around 70 hours. It is in no way a cheap or quick build. They won't end up the most expensive summing mixers on the market but will also be far from the cheapest. The "semi modular" design is not a low cost method but something that I think is super key. Not sure if anyone else is making something expandable? I think even though a scalable, modular solution is probably more expensive it makes the most sense, you can buy in and expand as your needs or bank balance grows. So many buy in thinking they will get a large part of their investment back when it’s time to grow, only to find they are not going to get what they thought! Now start thinking full featured console 😁 Please! Pretty please😁 |
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 15, 2018 17:34:09 GMT -6
I can't wait to get some builds going for others on these puppies. Any idea about a ballpark of man hours involved in building ? Soldering Iron's heating up..... I'd have to double check with Joel but I think a full on 32x4 was around 70 hours. It is in no way a cheap or quick build. They won't end up the most expensive summing mixers on the market but will also be far from the cheapest. The "semi modular" design is not a low cost method but something that I think is super key. Not sure if anyone else is making something expandable? Holy shit. It took Joel 70 hours? |
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Post by Blackdawg on Apr 15, 2018 21:38:40 GMT -6
I can't wait to get some builds going for others on these puppies. Any idea about a ballpark of man hours involved in building ? Soldering Iron's heating up..... I'd have to double check with Joel but I think a full on 32x4 was around 70 hours. It is in no way a cheap or quick build. They won't end up the most expensive summing mixers on the market but will also be far from the cheapest. The "semi modular" design is not a low cost method but something that I think is super key. Not sure if anyone else is making something expandable? wow. 70 hours..i've got my work cut out for me.. I think the modular design is super attractive. I haven't seen any summing mixer like that. |
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Post by jsteiger on Apr 16, 2018 11:07:30 GMT -6
I'd have to double check with Joel but I think a full on 32x4 was around 70 hours. It is in no way a cheap or quick build. They won't end up the most expensive summing mixers on the market but will also be far from the cheapest. The "semi modular" design is not a low cost method but something that I think is super key. Not sure if anyone else is making something expandable? Holy shit. It took Joel 70 hours? I was remembering wrong. When Joel came in this AM he looked up his times. He was 55 hours on the SB-T2 32x4 and 40 on the SB-T1 16x4. Its still a lot but way less than 70! |
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Post by Blackdawg on Apr 16, 2018 11:16:18 GMT -6
Holy shit. It took Joel 70 hours? I was remembering wrong. When Joel came in this AM he looked up his times. He was 55 hours on the SB-T2 32x4 and 40 on the SB-T1 16x4. Its still a lot but way less than 70! Okay. Thats better haha still a lot though no doubt. |
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Post by kosi on Apr 24, 2018 0:43:56 GMT -6
As I don't find any info about this: Does the sumbus feature direct outs ? I'm trying to figure out, wether the SB1 could be used as small recording mixer...
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 24, 2018 7:11:08 GMT -6
As I don't find any info about this: Does the sumbus feature direct outs ? I'm trying to figure out, wether the SB1 could be used as small recording mixer... Not sure I understand. It has the ability to have 4 analog outs. You have two options for the actual output transformers and opamps. So you could just have one pair of analog outs with say - Litz transformer with red dots. Or you could add a different flavor with the 2623 and 1731s. |
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Post by Blackdawg on Apr 24, 2018 7:53:45 GMT -6
As I don't find any info about this: Does the sumbus feature direct outs ? I'm trying to figure out, wether the SB1 could be used as small recording mixer... No there are no direct out on the channels. I don't think it would have enough gain to power some mics anyways. |
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Post by kosi on Apr 24, 2018 8:22:44 GMT -6
No, I mean simple discrete outs per channel, that way, I could use it as a basic recording mixer. But I guess, that's not possible.
example: signal goes into CH1 of sumbus, from there via the direct out into my interface. The recording level is adjusted by level A, Cans get their signal thru Level B. I listen in the control room thru my DAW. Musicians have latency free monitoring.
Very basic.
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 24, 2018 8:48:00 GMT -6
No. It doesn’t have that.
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Post by Blackdawg on Apr 24, 2018 15:26:08 GMT -6
aahhhhhh shit! Some SB2 parts are on the CAPI website! Hell yeah!
Not for sale still..but prices!
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Post by Bender on Apr 24, 2018 17:40:40 GMT -6
aahhhhhh shit! Some SB2 parts are on the CAPI website! Hell yeah! Not for sale still..but prices! Mmmmmmmmm tasty |
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Post by gouge on Apr 25, 2018 15:30:38 GMT -6
No, I mean simple discrete outs per channel, that way, I could use it as a basic recording mixer. But I guess, that's not possible. example: signal goes into CH1 of sumbus, from there via the direct out into my interface. The recording level is adjusted by level A, Cans get their signal thru Level B. I listen in the control room thru my DAW. Musicians have latency free monitoring. Very basic. Each channel has aux sends. I'm sure a good tech could mod that and split one aux to include a line out quite easily. |
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Post by indiehouse on May 5, 2018 13:16:45 GMT -6
So, who’s getting one of these? If so, which one are you going for?
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