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Post by sam on Dec 18, 2017 19:23:56 GMT -6
if you're feeling fancy you could get: 1x mcm20.4 16x HA73EQ 1x RAM5000 16 channels of heritage eqs and pres, summing, auxiliaries, metering, da converters and monitoring for $19882. oh and it would only take up 21 great sounding rack spaces... Basically was gonna be my response but mentioning that Neve summing mixer with the fader pack and a Purple Sweet Ten. A fifth of the cost, if not less. Heck, skip the fader pack, drop an SSL Sigma and two Artist Mixes in there, you’ve got a fully automatable BCM10 with both a Neve and an SSL front end. My original point is these Neves are no less authentic than the ones coming stock in the new BCM10
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Post by ericn on Dec 19, 2017 7:20:02 GMT -6
if you're feeling fancy you could get: 1x mcm20.4 16x HA73EQ 1x RAM5000 16 channels of heritage eqs and pres, summing, auxiliaries, metering, da converters and monitoring for $19882. oh and it would only take up 21 great sounding rack spaces... Basically was gonna be my response but mentioning that Neve summing mixer with the fader pack and a Purple Sweet Ten. A fifth of the cost, if not less. Heck, skip the fader pack, drop an SSL Sigma and two Artist Mixes in there, you’ve got a fully automatable BCM10 with both a Neve and an SSL front end. My original point is these Neves are no less authentic than the ones coming stock in the new BCM10 But that mixbus is going to sound nothing like a BCM10!
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Post by sam on Dec 19, 2017 9:11:24 GMT -6
Challenge accepted! Basically was gonna be my response but mentioning that Neve summing mixer with the fader pack and a Purple Sweet Ten. A fifth of the cost, if not less. Heck, skip the fader pack, drop an SSL Sigma and two Artist Mixes in there, you’ve got a fully automatable BCM10 with both a Neve and an SSL front end. My original point is these Neves are no less authentic than the ones coming stock in the new BCM10 But that mixbus is going to sound nothing like a BCM10!
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Post by Vincent R. on Dec 20, 2017 19:02:22 GMT -6
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Post by M57 on Dec 20, 2017 19:20:18 GMT -6
"The link you followed may have expired, or the page may only be visible to an audience you're not in."
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Post by Vincent R. on Dec 20, 2017 19:47:30 GMT -6
Edit: looks like my photobucket account is being stupid.
Posted on a NEVE board on Facebook.
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Post by c0rtland on Dec 20, 2017 20:11:29 GMT -6
Was only a matter of time.
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Post by Vincent R. on Dec 20, 2017 21:04:18 GMT -6
I'm curious how these two will compare to each other as they are at similar price points. I'm also curious how these will compare to something like a vintech which is only a little more expensive.
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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 20, 2017 21:11:15 GMT -6
So £799 is @ $1070. Wonder what the price will be?
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Post by ericn on Dec 20, 2017 21:43:00 GMT -6
Very Interseting as RAD distributes both, can we say conflict? The thing is Heritage built its brand on all out Clones and is moving down market, Warm has a reputation as doing a pretty good job but doing its own thing circuit wise. If they both were going through different dealers but since they pretty much share the same dealers this could be very interesting.
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Post by vodmastering on Dec 21, 2017 9:15:42 GMT -6
This is very interesting. I'm very much in the market for something like these. I wish they were going to offer the Elite series in the 500 series format. Maybe they will in the future. I'd be all over that. 'lo, it seems contradictory —but perhaps it will happen. Indeed, lower Voltage rails on 500 series render it difficult to cope with 'Elite' requirements —24V recording format.
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Post by vodmastering on Dec 21, 2017 9:16:50 GMT -6
I sum thru a Delta, JM modded 2 buss. Would a pair for makeup gain(tapping the insert send on the Delta and never returning back to the Delta) add some nice transformer love to my mixes? Im already 90% decided to go with one for tracking, just thinking if I could justify 2 if they live on the mixbuss when not tracking. I know its a taste thing, I guess I should ask “do people like to use dual 1073’s on the mixbuss for makeup gain?” I believe the 1272 is the classic line amp for this task, but can the 1073 be cool as well? Yes, it can and, to some extent it can do better —but better is sometimes less efficient than a straightforward line amp, with no thrills, no errors of judgment.
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Post by vodmastering on Dec 21, 2017 9:23:26 GMT -6
US distributor carries Goldenage, that already has the lower price range covered, manufacturers do not like it when reps or distributors carry a product that is a direct competitor, they feel they won't get the attention ! RAD stated in general no lower priced series in the 500 format ! I would say it's the right call, the sub $500 customer is very different and it would brand them differently when it comes to the expensive stuff. Eric what you say can be right ; yet GoldenAge is no "direct competitor" to the elite series. And yes, we were 500 bucks customers @ a time ; yet that should be transitory stage : it's better for every of us when were into an upper segment.
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Post by EmRR on Dec 21, 2017 9:30:54 GMT -6
This is very interesting. I'm very much in the market for something like these. I wish they were going to offer the Elite series in the 500 series format. Maybe they will in the future. I'd be all over that. 'lo, it seems contradictory —but perhaps it will happen. Indeed, lower Voltage rails on 500 series render it difficult to cope with 'Elite' requirements —24V recording format. Oh Jeezus, this won't ever die, will it. +/-16V is more than +24V. 24V is derived from 32V. Ya know.....all that GE and RCA SS stuff is 28V....better than Neve?....not as good as 500? I think Mackie 8•Bus rails are +/-18 = 36V.
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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 21, 2017 11:39:41 GMT -6
Yeah...16+16=32
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Post by raddistribution on Dec 22, 2017 15:40:07 GMT -6
Pulled from Facebook for everyone asking for gutshots One of our lead techs Pilar putting the finishing touches on a HA73EQ in our Madrid headquarters. Our more than 7 years of experience with this circuit have lead us to several all important design choices including the use of 3 distinct period correct “Vinkor” style inductors as opposed to the commonly used single ferrite inductor. The benefits of this design include it being the only way to insure the correct hi-mid frequency curves as well as minimizing phase distortion and providing far less harsh highs Attachment Deleted
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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 22, 2017 15:55:23 GMT -6
Actual size lol!
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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 22, 2017 15:56:39 GMT -6
I believe I see that one has "John" etched on it, right?
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Post by sam on Dec 22, 2017 16:01:07 GMT -6
Man now my whole world is upside down. I can buy them in stereo? For slightly more than one AML? But then again if aesthetic is your thing, something about the Heritage looks slightly better. Now the first one to offer a vertical option so I can stack these into a console, wellllll then I might do it haha
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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 22, 2017 18:28:23 GMT -6
Yeah...these are definitely prettier.
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Post by notneeson on Dec 22, 2017 18:33:18 GMT -6
raddistribution These look great. Are the line inputs padded or electronically balanced?
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Post by ericn on Dec 22, 2017 22:41:11 GMT -6
Pulled from Facebook for everyone asking for gutshots One of our lead techs Pilar putting the finishing touches on a HA73EQ in our Madrid headquarters. Our more than 7 years of experience with this circuit have lead us to several all important design choices including the use of 3 distinct period correct “Vinkor” style inductors as opposed to the commonly used single ferrite inductor. The benefits of this design include it being the only way to insure the correct hi-mid frequency curves as well as minimizing phase distortion and providing far less harsh highs View AttachmentLove it if you guys could make my holidays great by getting Zzounds my elite EQ so I can rave about it and put the pre section up against my 8 ch of Dan Alexander recreation with real Vintage Transformers!!
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Post by sam on Dec 23, 2017 11:06:51 GMT -6
Actually you know, the Warms don't look that ugly. And the gut shots are nice. It's hard to say no to two channels at $1499 vs two Heritage at $899 each.
EDIT: HOLY, the Warms have THREE HF options. I was gonna look into modding the Heritage to be at 10k. The Warms have 10, 12, and 16. Ooof, I think thats a bingo.
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Post by raddistribution on Dec 23, 2017 19:17:01 GMT -6
raddistribution These look great. Are the line inputs padded or electronically balanced? The line input is padded and goes through the microphone transformer
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Post by Quint on Dec 23, 2017 19:49:07 GMT -6
raddistribution These look great. Are the line inputs padded or electronically balanced? The line input is padded and goes through the microphone transformer Alright then! Major plus. Does the DI go through the transformer?
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