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Post by Johnkenn on Jan 20, 2014 11:21:44 GMT -6
Nice! Speaking of pianos, I have one great Craigslist story. I bought this Cable Nelson baby grand on CL for $500! The guy advertised it for $300, but I was so gung-ho, I offered him $500 just to make sure I got it! Attachment Deleted |
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Post by watchtower on Jan 20, 2014 12:45:54 GMT -6
How do you like that Lucas CS4? And how does it compare to the Grosser? Had them up for a brief A/B last summer. I felt the Lucas had less bottom. Less obvious was something in the top end. I felt that the Lucas had some slightly sparkling quality (very nice!). I remember wondering if that could be because it's using a real tube . Since then I've almost only worked with female singers that preferred having the lo end (at least when recording...) of either Grosser's 47 or my 67, so the CS4 hasn't seen much use yet. Andreas Grosser also commented, after studying the schematics of the CS4, that the CS4 should be more sensitive to high SPL than his U47. He asked me to put them both in front of a loud drum set and compare. Haven't been able to do that yet. Anyway, Grosser's U47 sounds gorgeous. Have had it up against three different vintage U47s. Very very close. Just a tad bid brighter (probably because of a new diaphragm), less boomy/more tight bottom end and perhaps a little more consistent overall. Note that Andreas makes it with a few options re body (standard/heavy brass), transformer (Haufe BV-08 is standard) and choice of capsule (from S Thiersch of course). Thanks for the reply! I'm curious what you mean about the Lucas using a "real tube." Isn't the Grosser a tube as well, or do you have the FET replacement? I'd be curious for that loud drum kit experiment too. I can't imagine why the Lucas would be worse off, unless Grosser's FET is designed to have much higher headroom than a normal tube mic. The Lucas schematic is 95% the same as a vintage U47. |
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Post by dandeurloo on Jan 20, 2014 12:57:13 GMT -6
Ok, I'll play. I'm sure I'm missing something as well and I have owned a lot of others that have all been moved on.
2 – U47’s (Custom)
2 – U67’s (Custom)
2 – U87’s (Custom)
1 – U269 (Custom)
2 – Nuemann KM 84’s (Matched Pair)
1 – AKG D112
1 – AKG D19
1 – Altec 633
1 – Eelctro Voice RE 20
1 – Eelctro Voice 635A
1 – Advanced Audio CM-47se
1 – Advanced Audio CM-12se
1 – Advanced Audio DM-20
2 – Advanced Audio ribbon (Highly modded with new ribbons and trannies from Samar)
2 – Stellar RM3 (Highly modded with new ribbons and trannies from Samar)
1 – Shure beta 87
3 – Shure beta 58’s
3 – Shure 57’s
2 – Shure 57 modded
2 – Sennheiser 421’s
1 – Placid Audio Copperphone
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Post by unit7 on Jan 20, 2014 13:47:00 GMT -6
Had them up for a brief A/B last summer. I felt the Lucas had less bottom. Less obvious was something in the top end. I felt that the Lucas had some slightly sparkling quality (very nice!). I remember wondering if that could be because it's using a real tube . Since then I've almost only worked with female singers that preferred having the lo end (at least when recording...) of either Grosser's 47 or my 67, so the CS4 hasn't seen much use yet. Andreas Grosser also commented, after studying the schematics of the CS4, that the CS4 should be more sensitive to high SPL than his U47. He asked me to put them both in front of a loud drum set and compare. Haven't been able to do that yet. Anyway, Grosser's U47 sounds gorgeous. Have had it up against three different vintage U47s. Very very close. Just a tad bid brighter (probably because of a new diaphragm), less boomy/more tight bottom end and perhaps a little more consistent overall. Note that Andreas makes it with a few options re body (standard/heavy brass), transformer (Haufe BV-08 is standard) and choice of capsule (from S Thiersch of course). Thanks for the reply! I'm curious what you mean about the Lucas using a "real tube." Isn't the Grosser a tube as well, or do you have the FET replacement? I'd be curious for that loud drum kit experiment too. I can't imagine why the Lucas would be worse off, unless Grosser's FET is designed to have much higher headroom than a normal tube mic. The Lucas schematic is 95% the same as a vintage U47. Yep my 47 is with Andreas FET device. I have no idea why Grosser guessed (didn't even claim as he asked me to test/compare the two) that the Lucas would be more sensitive. Shouldn't be because the FET device because it's built to act just as the VF14 and is also interchangable with no other alteration needed. I mentioned it only because you asked for the differences, and I told you everything I came to think of. In a few weeks I'll be having a session with many of my mics so if I remember I'll put them in front of a drumset and give all I got, which I'm afraid isn't much.  |
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Post by watchtower on Jan 20, 2014 14:19:10 GMT -6
I appreciate the reply greatly! Now I'm nervous to make the mods I intended on my U47 build, which is basically a Lucas CS-4 because it sounds like the Lucas has less bass than the Grosser, which is already less boomy than the vintage 47. Hmm... decisions.
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Post by svart on Jan 20, 2014 14:36:20 GMT -6
Damn. How can so many afford the Grosser U47s? those things are like 8K$..
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Post by unit7 on Jan 20, 2014 15:45:34 GMT -6
I appreciate the reply greatly! Now I'm nervous to make the mods I intended on my U47 build, which is basically a Lucas CS-4 because it sounds like the Lucas has less bass than the Grosser, which is already less boomy than the vintage 47. Hmm... decisions. Ouch, sorry for making you nervous! Please take my words with more than a grain of salt. These are subtle and subjective things... |
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Post by Shannon on Jan 20, 2014 16:14:47 GMT -6
Ok, I'll play. I'm sure I'm missing something as well and I have owned a lot of others that have all been moved on. 2 – U47’s (Custom) 2 – U67’s (Custom) 2 – U87’s (Custom) 1 – U269 (Custom) 2 – Nuemann KM 84’s (Matched Pair) 1 – AKG D112 1 – AKG D19 1 – Altec 633 1 – Eelctro Voice RE 20 1 – Eelctro Voice 635A 1 – Advanced Audio CM-47se 1 – Advanced Audio CM-12se 1 – Advanced Audio DM-20 2 – Advanced Audio ribbon (Highly modded with new ribbons and trannies from Samar) 2 – Stellar RM3 (Highly modded with new ribbons and trannies from Samar) 1 – Shure beta 87 3 – Shure beta 58’s 3 – Shure 57’s 2 – Shure 57 modded 2 – Sennheiser 421’s 1 – Placid Audio Copperphone very nice locker, I hope that sum-of- biacth has huge locks 269 fan as well. watchtower get ahold of Miktek they will fix that for you NP |
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Post by Ward on Jan 20, 2014 16:16:49 GMT -6
Yes, the M269 is one of the very finest microphones ever made. Take care of her!!
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