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Post by ragan on Nov 24, 2017 21:22:49 GMT -6
I’m srill only seeing EZ2 not SD2. Am I just missing it?
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 24, 2017 21:35:00 GMT -6
oops my bad sorry !! so the cross grade price goes up.
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 24, 2017 21:44:49 GMT -6
ragan check your emails:)
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Post by Martin John Butler on Nov 24, 2017 22:46:24 GMT -6
was there a Black Friday discount for upgrading from SD 2 to SD3?
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 25, 2017 0:36:08 GMT -6
TT is discounting ez to $107 and then with the cross grade price it is less than buying sd3 alone but you already own ez right ?
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Post by Martin John Butler on Nov 25, 2017 15:55:42 GMT -6
Yes, I have EZ and SD 2.
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 25, 2017 16:07:44 GMT -6
@ martin then you can select the upgrade from sd2 and pay $209
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Post by Martin John Butler on Nov 25, 2017 20:30:24 GMT -6
I think I'll wait. If it was $109, maybe I'd jump on it.
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Post by indiehouse on Nov 25, 2017 23:09:16 GMT -6
Are there quality midi packs/grooves that are good for this?
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 26, 2017 4:45:38 GMT -6
Sd3 has its own grooves but I believe you can import things like groove monkey?
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 29, 2017 21:54:58 GMT -6
First Impressions
Got SD3 today, very impressed with TT Product Manager app , very well thought out and powerful cross between a gui and almost a wizard as it assists with downloading installing
created an instrument track in my current session instantiated sd3 and copied over midi track from the logic drummer track: worked fine.
sd3 seems like a beast so many features and elements, started demoing the Massenberg default kits: really struck by the naturalness of the sound and the cohesion of the kits
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Post by ragan on Nov 29, 2017 22:32:06 GMT -6
I'm right behind you, Kcat. My connection is slow so I'm looking at 15 hours or so before the first batch of the SD3 sounds is done.
BUT, I'd already downloaded the Indiependent SDX and so I've been playing around with that with the V Drums. This is some amazing shit, dudes. The performance sounds....just like what I played. The sonics sound...like awesome kits in an awesome room with awesome engineering. And everything about the app itself is smart and intuitive. Stuff loads quickly, doesn't seem to tax CPU a bunch.
I'm real close to calling this a big win. This is amazing stuff.
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 30, 2017 4:09:34 GMT -6
I took my laptop up to my gamer son’s room where he has his diy desktop that could probably hack Fort Knox and grabbed a hard wired net feed right off the router. We have, shall we say, deeply tailored the settings to our likings. I went from about 5 mbs to about 350: time for 40 gigs went from 6-7 hours to under 1:), kids these days ! The first 2 libraries really get you going and are less than 90 g total hardrive space.
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Post by keymod on Nov 30, 2017 4:17:10 GMT -6
Has anyone been able to compare this SD3 to BFD3? I am mostly concerned with the way either one will work with a Roland Vdrum kit. I have a boxed version of BFD3 which I am about to place into service, but am curious as to how the sounds of the two compare. I don't play drums but want this setup available for drummers to use just like Ragan describes, taking audio outputs from the software to several tracks on the recorder.
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Post by popmann on Nov 30, 2017 16:13:07 GMT -6
If it's the stock BFD v3 sounds, these are better by a good deal. The London Sessions is BFD2, which are better samples....and there are some newer and third party libraries for it that are as good or better than SD3 unless you just dig arena rock. They "play" better, too--likely more levels of dynamics....and they have MONO outputs so you can not ghetto rig recording as audio by hard panning all the kick mics to one side and such like you have to do in Superior's engine.
I can (and have) set up a BFD2 drum sampler at 32 samples on a Pentium4 with whatever 64 levels of velocity switching. It's the app made for that workflow. On the most "rock" tune, on this new record, I had to resort to using BFD2 Air Studios rooms for the kick and snare in addition to the SD3 Core, which are SO much more polite.
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Post by ragan on Nov 30, 2017 16:52:36 GMT -6
Question. When using standalone SD3 and my V Drums, if I set SD3 to 64 buffer (the lowest it goes), that’s it right? That’s as low a latency as I can achieve with SD3 standalone?
It’s workable (around 1 ms according to SD3) but still not as immediate as monitoring the Roland brain, which is what I’ll probably end up doing for tracking.
Nothing else to do re: standalone latency other than crank the buffer down, right?
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 30, 2017 16:54:18 GMT -6
On a positive note, was just fooling around with the tap to tempo function
it seems to default to a 2 bar pattern to your session tempo and as soon as you turn it on, click is playing and you can just use your mouse to trigger the parts you want in your notional pattern
once you have something close ,stop and it searched, I tried two example and the leading hits were spot on and actually better than my examples
you can then drag those loops down in to your song creator and go to town
impressive software tool !
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Post by Martin John Butler on Nov 30, 2017 17:51:54 GMT -6
I never used the song creator. I always just dragged the files into a new channel in Logic with SD2 o top. Once you get a song fairly put together in the song creator, do you grab it into an empty track with Superior Drummer ?
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 30, 2017 17:55:54 GMT -6
don't know but you are apparently using sd2 stand alone ?
if you instantiate sd3 in a channel the grooves and song your create are what the channel plays ?
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 30, 2017 17:57:06 GMT -6
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Post by Martin John Butler on Nov 30, 2017 18:43:30 GMT -6
Thanks kcat. So, let's say you get used to Song Creator, you've finished a drum track. Do you just leave it as is and get on with recording your other parts, or do you drag it into a Superior Drummer track in Logic, and then record to that?
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 30, 2017 19:27:39 GMT -6
when you instantiate SD3 in your logic session instrument track, the song creator is part of the sd3 gui ? I just made a song in a new session and it just plays but I don't see a way to get into the region, not certain you have to ?
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Post by Martin John Butler on Nov 30, 2017 20:48:19 GMT -6
So, in the same way the mixer works behind the scenes, the song creator does the same thing?
Do you see the individual drum parts in the Logic track too? I often double click on the midi and edit that way, changing velocity and deleting some hits, adding a few others.
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 30, 2017 21:05:57 GMT -6
no but again you can do that within sd3
sd3 will see and use all the sd and I think ez drummer files you have.
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 30, 2017 21:10:51 GMT -6
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