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Post by jcoutu1 on Dec 18, 2013 14:52:51 GMT -6
Anyone ever build one of these AML EZ 1073's? It seems to be $600 us for the kit and $150 for the case. Is there shipping or taxes in the US on this stuff from the UK? Any other associated costs? Basically $750 all in? www.audiomaintenance.com/acatalog/kits.htmlwww.audiomaintenance.com/downloads/ez1073_colourbook.pdfHow difficult is the build? The colourbook makes it look pretty simple. How about this ezP-1A? This seems to be $870 all in after conversion. Anyone build this? Any good? Better or worse than the Drip?
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Post by svart on Dec 18, 2013 15:32:54 GMT -6
Looks like the PCB is separate, no? I had heard that shipping from the UK was starting to be taxed (never used to be) or something so you might look that up.
The only thing that makes one kit better/worse than another is usually the changes a cloner might make to the design for whatever reason, including any additional features. I'm not familiar with either but just look for whichever has the features you want.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Dec 18, 2013 15:58:22 GMT -6
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Post by littlesicily on Dec 18, 2013 15:59:34 GMT -6
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Dec 18, 2013 21:18:31 GMT -6
Not yet. Real close to pulling the trigger once but opted to wait till after the holidays.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2013 23:51:14 GMT -6
i did (ez1073). I also built a pair of the 500-series ones before he stopped making them as kits. Case from Dan Deurloo was around $150 including faceplate. Kit from colin was the end price for me was a little less than $900, after shipping/tax for all this extra stuff: screws & standoffs www.pololu.com/catalog/product/2088 x 4 www.pololu.com/catalog/product/1962 x 1 power receptacle wiring terminals for grounding to the case 100mV quickblow fuse grounding wire radio shack knobs If you're in the states, Colin ships via TNT and the freight charges were between $50-100. but it showed up like 2-3 days after i ordered it. I'm in NYC, colin is in england. Jeff built some of those Pultec boxes. the builds for both the 500 and the rack were SUPER easy. he really takes the hard part out of the process. all resistors are pre-cut, every component is in a bag and labeled. you don't even have to think. just find the right part, and put it in the right hole. no measuring or anything. it's awesome. Jeffs kits are harder to build because he doesn't label components, so you gotta measure 'em yourself to figure out what value they are (for resistors at least)
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Post by tonycamphd on Dec 18, 2013 23:54:39 GMT -6
Matkat and danderlou can speak to these units
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Post by jcoutu1 on Dec 19, 2013 5:23:22 GMT -6
i did (ez1073). I also built a pair of the 500-series ones before he stopped making them as kits. Case from Dan Deurloo was around $150 including faceplate. Kit from colin was the end price for me was a little less than $900, after shipping/tax for all this extra stuff: screws & standoffs www.pololu.com/catalog/product/2088 x 4 www.pololu.com/catalog/product/1962 x 1 power receptacle wiring terminals for grounding to the case 100mV quickblow fuse grounding wire radio shack knobs If you're in the states, Colin ships via TNT and the freight charges were between $50-100. but it showed up like 2-3 days after i ordered it. I'm in NYC, colin is in england. Jeff built some of those Pultec boxes. the builds for both the 500 and the rack were SUPER easy. he really takes the hard part out of the process. all resistors are pre-cut, every component is in a bag and labeled. you don't even have to think. just find the right part, and put it in the right hole. no measuring or anything. it's awesome. Jeffs kits are harder to build because he doesn't label components, so you gotta measure 'em yourself to figure out what value they are (for resistors at least) Damn. $900 or thereabouts all in eh? I would want some of those nice looking Neve style knobs too. Price adds up quickly. Not a lot of savings over buying a pre built 500 series version. I guess with the 500 series you have to add another $120 in space in your lunchbox.
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Post by svart on Dec 19, 2013 8:18:46 GMT -6
If you are down for etching your own PCB, building a case from par-metal and using the Hairball neve-alike transformers, you can build 4 channels of simple-hotrod-1272 for like 600$.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Dec 19, 2013 8:53:28 GMT -6
If you are down for etching your own PCB, building a case from par-metal and using the Hairball neve-alike transformers, you can build 4 channels of simple-hotrod-1272 for like 600$. I wish I was down for that stuff. My only soldering experience is populating a couple boards for speaker crossovers. I think etching a pcb and building a case are a bit over my head. Although, I might be able to get my hands on some inexpensive enclosures...I'll have to check out one of my connections.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2013 13:54:15 GMT -6
jcoutu1 the $850-900 is for the 1RU rack version. look up how much an AMS Neve 1RU 1073 with EQ is...
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Post by jcoutu1 on Dec 19, 2013 14:28:38 GMT -6
jcoutu1 the $850-900 is for the 1RU rack version. look up how much an AMS Neve 1RU 1073 with EQ is... I'm with ya, but for the same money, I can just grab a used AML 500 version and not have to worry about putting it together. I was hoping that I could save a bit of cash by building, but not so much.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2013 6:26:07 GMT -6
if you already have a 500-series chassis to put it in, then by all means do it!
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Post by jazznoise on Dec 21, 2013 3:56:09 GMT -6
I actually have input transformers sourced for a pair of DIY 1073's but I never got an answer from folks to as what the current draw per channel is. I was told 100mA a channel, but the initial draw is much higher so you'd need to make an allowance of about 250mA?
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Post by svart on Dec 23, 2013 10:24:35 GMT -6
Around 125-150ma steady state for a 1073. Inrush current is higher but is somewhat unknown depending on how much bulk capacitance you have throughout the unit. 250ma is probably ok.
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Post by jazznoise on Dec 23, 2013 10:38:13 GMT -6
I forgot to add I wouldn't be adding the EQ sections (Don't gasp, not all of us can afford inductors!).
Thanks for the reply!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2014 13:11:21 GMT -6
matkat (and anyone else who has used both) how does the diy ez1073 compare with the AML500 series equivalent. Are they essentially the same circuit ? If there is a difference in sound, which do you prefer?
Right now I can't decide between the Bluzzi 1084 and the EZ1073 !
thanks
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Post by dandeurloo on Jan 7, 2014 19:59:57 GMT -6
I've used all 3 you are asking about. Do you need mic pres? If so then that rules out the 1084 eq.
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Post by tonycamphd on Jan 7, 2014 23:36:09 GMT -6
What Dan says, people rave about the bluzzy though..
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2014 3:06:16 GMT -6
As I don't strictly need preamps (although it would be nice), I'm not sure if it is better to have the greater flexibility of the EQ on the 1084.
I understand that in their original design they are essentially the same eq but I wondered whether, as clones, which of the bluzzi and the AML hit the mark better?
Really would love to know if the DIY AML 1073 exactly the same as the prebuilt AML 1073 500 series ?
many thanks for your help
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2014 12:11:21 GMT -6
on the groupDIY thread for the kits, colin put up links to the colorbooks for the build. if you dig thru them you'll see the schematics, and that they're essentially identical, excluding the cables to connect the two PCBs in the 500-series version and the voltage converter to bump up the 500-series voltage to the proper level
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Post by dandeurloo on Jan 8, 2014 13:52:53 GMT -6
The schematics are the same. The only difference is how they are powered. Which can make a tiny hair bit of a difference.
The 1084 is a very nice sound. I would say they are a bit nicer/polite sounding then a real 1084 which I actually like.
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Post by Guitar on Jan 8, 2014 19:48:38 GMT -6
If all you need is a preamp, the SCA N72 is a pretty sure bet to my ears.
I'm hoping for a couple each of EZ1073 and EZ1084 eventually. Just a hope at this point. Bluzzi really impresses me.
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Post by littlesicily on Jan 9, 2014 13:02:53 GMT -6
dandeurloo do the ez1073 and ez1084 preamp sections sound the same?
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Post by littlesicily on Jan 9, 2014 13:04:14 GMT -6
Ahh, never mind...just saw that the ez1084 is EQ only.
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