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Post by hasbeen on Nov 3, 2016 11:14:46 GMT -6
I got a free satellite when they did this last year. Easy. Buy the Apollo and register. They send you a Quad Satellite. Last time it was a little slow to get but I am hoping they learned from their mistake and have plenty ready to ship this offering. As far as the conversion goes, no problems here. I love my Apollo and the UAD platform. I have been a user for years. I strongly advise you do some google research and ear to ear listening on your own. Go to the website and peruse the tutorials and videos including sound files. There will always be users who are dissatisfied no matter what but I am a happy customer. The Thunderbolt format has made recording so much easier for me. The Unison plug ins just get better and better. Hello, did you have the SF Apollo and can you compare it to other converters? Is the DAC improved or do you use a separate DAC for monitoring? Do you feel a SF to BF upgrade would be better than adding a separate DAC like a Dangerous Source? I always wanted a Avocet but it's as pricey as BF Apollo I upgraded from SilverFace Apollo. The BlackFace has the Hi Z Unison and a few other BF only features that I like. The free Satellite made the upgrade a no brainer. I bought my Apollo from ProAudioStar as 'B' Stock but it was brand new in box. That move alone saved me $750. I am happy with the Apollo and have no desire for other conversion as of yet, however I mix to a variety of sources including a Tascam DA3000 and reel to reel. Somewhere down the road, sure i may explore million dollar conversion but right now the Apollo makes beautiful music!!
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 3, 2016 11:18:20 GMT -6
the bf ad and da are upgrades from the sf but the new bf 16 has even better da.
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 3, 2016 11:25:23 GMT -6
the release seems delayed over in ua land but someone at ua forum grabbed this using chrome from its download page :
"UAD v9 features the API 2500 Bus Compressor, Chandler Limited Zener Limiter, and the A/DA STD-1 Stereo Tapped Delay plug-ins. This release also includes Windows Thunderbolt compatibility, Console 2 for FireWire, and MacOS Sierra compatibility."
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Post by ChaseUTB on Nov 3, 2016 11:35:53 GMT -6
the release seems delayed over in ua land but someone at ua forum grabbed this using chrome from its download page : "UAD v9 features the API 2500 Bus Compressor, Chandler Limited Zener Limiter, and the A/DA STD-1 Stereo Tapped Delay plug-ins. This release also includes Windows Thunderbolt compatibility, Console 2 for FireWire, and MacOS Sierra compatibility." pretty solid release ! The curve bender was brainwork Or softube? I hope the Zener is UAD modeling but I fear only the API 2500 will be... Softube makes some killer plugs as well so I'm not opposed to their modeling of the Zener, however DSP is oh so precious with New UA plugs, I would rather wait for Native, plus Native is cheaper always ...
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 3, 2016 11:38:35 GMT -6
I think CB was softube: guess we will know when we can download and ua site gets new info
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 3, 2016 12:03:42 GMT -6
V9 dropped its official:
New in v9
• Console 2 for Apollo FireWire Devices • Thunderbolt 3 support for Windows 10 • Compatibility with Windows 10 Anniversary Update • Basic Compatibility with macOS Sierra • Unison Support Added for the Ampeg SVT-VR and SVT-3PRO by Brainworx • API 2500 Bus Compressor by Universal Audio • Chandler Limited Zener Limiter by Softube • ADA STD-1 Stereo Tapped Delay by Brainworx • Sphere Precision Microphone System by Townsend Labs
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Post by ChaseUTB on Nov 3, 2016 12:10:32 GMT -6
V9 dropped its official: New in v9 • Console 2 for Apollo FireWire Devices • Thunderbolt 3 support for Windows 10 • Compatibility with Windows 10 Anniversary Update • Basic Compatibility with macOS Sierra • Unison Support Added for the Ampeg SVT-VR and SVT-3PRO by Brainworx • API 2500 Bus Compressor by Universal Audio • Chandler Limited Zener Limiter by Softube • ADA STD-1 Stereo Tapped Delay by Brainworx • Sphere Precision Microphone System by Townsend Labs Well tell me how the new plugs sound especially the API, the waves version has become one of my faves for drums and busses! So versatile and can coax so many flavors, I can only imagine how much pure the sound of the HW is... Hopefully mixbusTV on YT will do a review, he has the HW and usually does great SW and HW comparisons... Mixing with Mike on YT does good vids as well in new plugs...
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 3, 2016 13:02:03 GMT -6
Seriously you don't want to know I dropped the api and the zener on the mix buss of a new tune I am working on, things just droped into focus with nice punch and clarity, the song is a soft rock acoustic song so not powerful but the two plugs certainly improved things. I have teh 14 day demo running if you want me to pass something through just pm me ! btw here is a post with someone who is on windows: "UAD v9 Thunderbolt Apollo for pc driver installed and connected to silver Apollo quad via tb1 option card - it ran a firmware upgrade and connected the first time. This is on my Dell M3800 laptop with tb2 connection, up until now this system was stuck on v8.3 for the firewire over thunderbolt connection to work. Running windows 7 64 bit and Sonar Platinum, now I have to get into testing things and learn the new console but everything looks great. Excellent, THANK YOU Gannon and everyone at UA! "
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Post by ChaseUTB on Nov 3, 2016 13:49:14 GMT -6
Ya I watched the demo and 5 minute tips for UAD API 2500 and am in love.... just how in love $ wise I'm not sure yet... having a hard time resisting booting up my El cap partition and D/L UAD v9 That is definitely good news regarding the SF Apollo and windows and the TB card !!
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 3, 2016 14:20:59 GMT -6
sounds like w are in the same boat link to clips:https://soundcloud.com/universal-audio
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 3, 2016 19:32:39 GMT -6
Hey chase one of the ua mods loaded 9 on mountain lion "FYI: Just installed v9.0.0 on Mountain Lion 10.8.5 with a Silverface TB1 and a Satellife FW and opened a current session. Happy to report that all runs smoothly"
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Post by hasbeen on Nov 3, 2016 19:39:56 GMT -6
Hey chase one of the ua mods loaded 9 on mountain lion "FYI: Just installed v9.0.0 on Mountain Lion 10.8.5 with a Silverface TB1 and a Satellife FW and opened a current session. Happy to report that all runs smoothly" Thanks!! I am still using Mountain Lion! Happy as heck that the SVT plugs have been stepped up to Unison status.
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 3, 2016 19:46:53 GMT -6
ya and free not mkii: nice touch !
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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 3, 2016 20:46:39 GMT -6
Think I'm gonna wait till El Friday de Negro...but I could see the BA-15, Friedmans and Chandler Zeber coming this way.
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Nov 3, 2016 22:35:04 GMT -6
How does the free satellite promotion work? veggieryan why do you consider the conversion subpar? Also compared to what other conversion? I'm curious about this myself. I've got the old silver face, Burl and Symphony and I don't find it sub-par. I use it all the time recording acoustic instruments and drums with great results.
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Post by ChaseUTB on Nov 4, 2016 10:17:10 GMT -6
Hey chase one of the ua mods loaded 9 on mountain lion "FYI: Just installed v9.0.0 on Mountain Lion 10.8.5 with a Silverface TB1 and a Satellife FW and opened a current session. Happy to report that all runs smoothly" I'm on Lion with SF FW hehe... I have El cap partitioned and use PT 12.4 for testing out new plugs and other SW... I rarely demo UAD plugins because that's a quick way to spend $ one doesn't need to spend I'd be lying if I said I wasn't jonesing to hear a waves vs UAD
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 4, 2016 10:38:25 GMT -6
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Post by ChaseUTB on Nov 4, 2016 11:00:58 GMT -6
Haha thanks, I am logged in over there but can't seem to find the attached files or find a link to listen to them... I am a noob at UAD forums lol.
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 4, 2016 11:07:26 GMT -6
justclick on the link in what I posted and scroll up to post 14 (numbers on top right hand side)
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Post by veggieryan on Nov 4, 2016 12:44:47 GMT -6
How does the free satellite promotion work? veggieryan why do you consider the conversion subpar? Also compared to what other conversion? I'm curious about this myself. I've got the old silver face, Burl and Symphony and I don't find it sub-par. I use it all the time recording acoustic instruments and drums with great results. I should clarify. I think you CAN get great results with Apollo converters. I apologize in advance for this long winded reply which is partly off topic. I think each person's goals and styles are different and the Apollo might fit that need better for some people. I find it to be a bit unbalanced, harsh, thin, murky and 2d sounding but that might translate to a kind of bright or modern sound that somebody is looking for on the plus side. At this level we are splitting hairs perhaps but I can hear it. Personally, I have been chasing this certain sound like "Blood on the Tracks" where the acoustic guitar and vocal are just filling up a wall of sound coming at you and it kind of hits you like an emotional wave. It's been a long journey trying to get to that sound for myself. I finally got a mic that can get me there in the Shannon modded CV4 251. Scoring a real EMT-140 was a massive step up from the UAD 140 I was relying on (a much bigger step up than conversion). Getting a real high end tube preamp/compressor/AD converter/master clock in the Hanks BA-AD 660's was a big step and the next missing piece was the Symphony DA conversion for summing over the Apollo. For me, the jump up from Apollo blackface to Symphony was a huge jump. I know for some other's ears it might not be. That's cool too but I wish somebody would have told me years ago that I might be a Symphony kind of guy because there is a difference there. My feelings in A/Bing the Symphony next to the blackface Apollo 8 summing into my Audient 2802 board were that the Symphoy basically made the Apollo sound more like some of the interfaces I struggled through in the past like Motu, Echo, Maudio, Focusrite, etc. Just a bit thin, murky and 2D compared to the Symphony. The AD is a big step up too and this is what really bothers me about the Apollo... that they don't offer better AD on the blackface 16. I did a session in the main room this week with just the NPNG "lush" blueface quad preamp into the Symphony AD and it was truly stellar. Don't forget the Symphony AD also comes with built-in switchable analog limiters that are very useful for recording drums, etc... I just don't think I could go back to the Apollo and be happy so it's currently being used for live show sound and in the studio as a digital only FX box for monitor mixes via ADAT which I wish was just AES since I don't think ADAT is a truly reliable or quality format. At the current insanely low used prices for Symphony Mk1's I think they are the best value in pro audio right now. I have found that with quality mic/preamp/compressor/converter/clock going in that mixing is so much easier. Plugins become much more useful since you are not chasing something that isn't already there but rather working with something that already sounds good to start with. Now yesterday another tool towards that sound came in... the Fat Bustard II LE tube summing mixer. Don't even get me started on that thing. I will quote a wise man I once heard on the internet... a quote that has stuck with me: "People argue constantly on the purple site that gear doesn't matter. BULLSHIT It matters A LOT" - cowboycoalminer Wise words!
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Post by wiz on Nov 4, 2016 13:38:36 GMT -6
I'm curious about this myself. I've got the old silver face, Burl and Symphony and I don't find it sub-par. I use it all the time recording acoustic instruments and drums with great results. I should clarify. I think you CAN get great results with Apollo converters. I apologize in advance for this long winded reply which is partly off topic. I think each person's goals and styles are different and the Apollo might fit that need better for some people. I find it to be a bit unbalanced, harsh, thin, murky and 2d sounding but that might translate to a kind of bright or modern sound that somebody is looking for on the plus side. At this level we are splitting hairs perhaps but I can hear it. Personally, I have been chasing this certain sound like "Blood on the Tracks" where the acoustic guitar and vocal are just filling up a wall of sound coming at you and it kind of hits you like an emotional wave. It's been a long journey trying to get to that sound for myself. I finally got a mic that can get me there in the Shannon modded CV4 251. Scoring a real EMT-140 was a massive step up from the UAD 140 I was relying on (a much bigger step up than conversion). Getting a real high end tube preamp/compressor/AD converter/master clock in the Hanks BA-AD 660's was a big step and the next missing piece was the Symphony DA conversion for summing over the Apollo. For me, the jump up from Apollo blackface to Symphony was a huge jump. I know for some other's ears it might not be. That's cool too but I wish somebody would have told me years ago that I might be a Symphony kind of guy because there is a difference there. My feelings in A/Bing the Symphony next to the blackface Apollo 8 summing into my Audient 2802 board were that the Symphoy basically made the Apollo sound more like some of the interfaces I struggled through in the past like Motu, Echo, Maudio, Focusrite, etc. Just a bit thin, murky and 2D compared to the Symphony. The AD is a big step up too and this is what really bothers me about the Apollo... that they don't offer better AD on the blackface 16. I did a session in the main room this week with just the NPNG "lush" blueface quad preamp into the Symphony AD and it was truly stellar. Don't forget the Symphony AD also comes with built-in switchable analog limiters that are very useful for recording drums, etc... I just don't think I could go back to the Apollo and be happy so it's currently being used for live show sound and in the studio as a digital only FX box for monitor mixes via ADAT which I wish was just AES since I don't think ADAT is a truly reliable or quality format. At the current insanely low used prices for Symphony Mk1's I think they are the best value in pro audio right now. I have found that with quality mic/preamp/compressor/converter/clock going in that mixing is so much easier. Plugins become much more useful since you are not chasing something that isn't already there but rather working with something that already sounds good to start with. Now yesterday another tool towards that sound came in... the Fat Bustard II LE tube summing mixer. Don't even get me started on that thing. I will quote a wise man I once heard on the internet... a quote that has stuck with me: "People argue constantly on the purple site that gear doesn't matter. BULLSHIT It matters A LOT" - cowboycoalminer Wise words! Any chance we can hear that signal chain? cheers Wiz
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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 4, 2016 13:52:21 GMT -6
Yeah, I still wouldn't doubt that the Symphony conversion on both sides might sound a little better than the BF Apollo. But we're splitting hairs.
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Post by Guitar on Nov 4, 2016 15:05:58 GMT -6
I went through a very similar growth spurt in my own room where every different piece of the system came together in a pro way, I can relate to that, the elation of it. The silver Apollo was and is still one of those things for me, however. I can split hairs with the best of them, but any of the Apollos will sound pretty dang good, IMO. Even though I do always use a specific DAC for mixdowns. The Apollo is almost what I want there, too, just barely not it.
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 4, 2016 15:55:15 GMT -6
a note from UA/Gannon re: v9 compatibility with mac OSX:
Absolutely - v9 is compatible with OS X 10.9 Mavericks, 10.10 Yosemite, 10.11 El Capitan as well as macOS Sierra.
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Post by cowboycoalminer on Nov 5, 2016 1:33:25 GMT -6
I'm curious about this myself. I've got the old silver face, Burl and Symphony and I don't find it sub-par. I use it all the time recording acoustic instruments and drums with great results. I should clarify. I think you CAN get great results with Apollo converters. I apologize in advance for this long winded reply which is partly off topic. I think each person's goals and styles are different and the Apollo might fit that need better for some people. I find it to be a bit unbalanced, harsh, thin, murky and 2d sounding but that might translate to a kind of bright or modern sound that somebody is looking for on the plus side. At this level we are splitting hairs perhaps but I can hear it. Personally, I have been chasing this certain sound like "Blood on the Tracks" where the acoustic guitar and vocal are just filling up a wall of sound coming at you and it kind of hits you like an emotional wave. It's been a long journey trying to get to that sound for myself. I finally got a mic that can get me there in the Shannon modded CV4 251. Scoring a real EMT-140 was a massive step up from the UAD 140 I was relying on (a much bigger step up than conversion). Getting a real high end tube preamp/compressor/AD converter/master clock in the Hanks BA-AD 660's was a big step and the next missing piece was the Symphony DA conversion for summing over the Apollo. For me, the jump up from Apollo blackface to Symphony was a huge jump. I know for some other's ears it might not be. That's cool too but I wish somebody would have told me years ago that I might be a Symphony kind of guy because there is a difference there. My feelings in A/Bing the Symphony next to the blackface Apollo 8 summing into my Audient 2802 board were that the Symphoy basically made the Apollo sound more like some of the interfaces I struggled through in the past like Motu, Echo, Maudio, Focusrite, etc. Just a bit thin, murky and 2D compared to the Symphony. The AD is a big step up too and this is what really bothers me about the Apollo... that they don't offer better AD on the blackface 16. I did a session in the main room this week with just the NPNG "lush" blueface quad preamp into the Symphony AD and it was truly stellar. Don't forget the Symphony AD also comes with built-in switchable analog limiters that are very useful for recording drums, etc... I just don't think I could go back to the Apollo and be happy so it's currently being used for live show sound and in the studio as a digital only FX box for monitor mixes via ADAT which I wish was just AES since I don't think ADAT is a truly reliable or quality format. At the current insanely low used prices for Symphony Mk1's I think they are the best value in pro audio right now. I have found that with quality mic/preamp/compressor/converter/clock going in that mixing is so much easier. Plugins become much more useful since you are not chasing something that isn't already there but rather working with something that already sounds good to start with. Now yesterday another tool towards that sound came in... the Fat Bustard II LE tube summing mixer. Don't even get me started on that thing. I will quote a wise man I once heard on the internet... a quote that has stuck with me: "People argue constantly on the purple site that gear doesn't matter. BULLSHIT It matters A LOT" - cowboycoalminer Wise words! Haha! Touche'
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