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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 1, 2016 16:01:36 GMT -6
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 1, 2016 16:57:03 GMT -6
they pulled the clips
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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 1, 2016 17:20:23 GMT -6
Clues on anything else?
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 1, 2016 18:08:25 GMT -6
well the tbolt for win 10, console 2 for FW, I guess the api and someone else posted this:
"So I did a little sleuthing and have ascertained that we're only going to get one new plugin developed by UA. (This isn't to say there won't be others from dev partners, nor does it mean we won't see some mk-2s.) How did I come to this conclusion you ask?
Well, it's simple. The Ultimate 5 bundle is advertising "All 89 UA plugins through v9.0", as opposed to the 83 in Ultimate 4 through v8.4.
8.6 added the Fender Tweed, and 8.7 gave us the VoxBox alongside the reintroduction of the three (formerly) Roland plugs, putting us at 88. Hence only one new UA developed plugin.
Let the rumormill run (even more) amok!"
Anyway we'll know more tomorrow.
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Post by ChaseUTB on Nov 1, 2016 18:40:57 GMT -6
Watch the backlash when they spill the beans that Console 2.o is tied to OS X like the plugs and that console 2 for FW has maybe half the features of TB console I really don't get UA at this point, Screw the early adopters and loyal customers while continue to improve and make the new BF TB line better and better.... Would love the API plug but don't want to sacrifice more money to UA when they don't listen to their customers. Going on two years now for Console 2 and it's a half baked version at that.... IDK it's love / hate right now with me and UA
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Post by guitfiddler on Nov 1, 2016 20:23:32 GMT -6
Watch the backlash when they spill the beans that Console 2.o is tied to OS X like the plugs and that console 2 for FW has maybe half the features of TB console I really don't get UA at this point, Screw the early adopters and loyal customers while continue to improve and make the new BF TB line better and better.... Would love the API plug but don't want to sacrifice more money to UA when they don't listen to their customers. Going on two years now for Console 2 and it's a half baked version at that.... IDK it's love / hate right now with me and UA Sold my fw Apollo. I waited too long.
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Post by ChaseUTB on Nov 1, 2016 20:42:14 GMT -6
Watch the backlash when they spill the beans that Console 2.o is tied to OS X like the plugs and that console 2 for FW has maybe half the features of TB console I really don't get UA at this point, Screw the early adopters and loyal customers while continue to improve and make the new BF TB line better and better.... Would love the API plug but don't want to sacrifice more money to UA when they don't listen to their customers. Going on two years now for Console 2 and it's a half baked version at that.... IDK it's love / hate right now with me and UA Sold my fw Apollo. I waited too long. I completely understand. Let's not forget the free TB card for most late adopters, but early adopters had to shell out $500, then they replaced TB card with an improved TB2 version... So that's another nitpick reason for someone to not purchase via resale... Also UA acts like the BF Apollo customers paid $10,000 and always shows their importance to the new line while us SF FW users paid the exact same and have been left behind... The BF would not be as popular if it weren't for us SF users, I mean the original Apollo thread on the purple site is one of the biggest, longest running threads there... IDK I love me some waves API 2500 and wish I wasn't in this situation with UA .. but dam they act clueless when it comes to professional setups by tying every plug and console 2 to specific OS X's. Who cares about a stable system right.... UA says shut up, upgrade and give me your money... oh wait, that's right UA isn't even compatible with OS X Sierra yet, they just cleared el cap like 4-6 months ago... oooohhh but looky here... another sweet $25 off coupon lol
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 1, 2016 23:51:31 GMT -6
Hey Chase, While I understand the frustration as I was an early adopter too some clarification might help.
UA is sierra compatible now.
We won't know till tomorrow what console 2 for FW behaves like. What I have read leads me to think it will be full featured.
Technological change is a harsh reality and it's apparent that programming for FW was a lot more problematic than for tbolt pci-e or usb.
The win 10 tbolt announcement is also supposed to be full featured console 2 and backwards compatible to tb1-2 cards. The only performance difference between tb1 and 2 cards I think was for 4k monitors not an audio difference. I had both and didn't notice any audio performance difference.
Lots of people are frustrated with apple os change but windows has its problems too.
Personally,both El cap and so far sierra are running fine here but I will start thinking about building a win power tower to get off the apple os train although I have had very good performance from all my apple os's.
As you say,it's nice to have options and there are lots of great non-ua plugs.
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Post by thehightenor on Nov 2, 2016 2:50:09 GMT -6
I'll probably buy the UA 2500 comp pluign, I really like the sound of this compressor and I'd like to spend some time with it on the 2 bus to see if I can justify buying the actual hardware.
I hope it was modelled by UA.
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Post by kilroyrock on Nov 2, 2016 6:04:03 GMT -6
My neighbor has a thunderbolt Apollo, and I am going to try to install it on my win 10 computer with my TB2 motherboard adapter card (straight bus). They say thunderbolt 3 windows drivers, but I have a feeling TB2 may work just fine.. Right now my only option is the MOTU 16A, because focusrite is holding their junk on a usable TB driver. I'm not against the MOTU16A, but I'm always nervous about trying something I can't see in person first, and NOBODY has Motu around here. Plus, that API 2500 plug will be WAY cheaper than the hardware (sans mojo)
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 2, 2016 6:52:54 GMT -6
UA will probably announce the specific today but the PT xpert advance article indicated that only certain tb3 motherboard equipped boards worked but that you would have backwards compatible tb 1-2 with the right adaptor.
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Post by kilroyrock on Nov 2, 2016 7:08:26 GMT -6
UA will probably announce the specific today but the PT xpert advance article indicated that only certain tb3 motherboard equipped boards worked but that you would have backwards compatible tb 1-2 with the right adaptor. Exactly. This is why testing it will be the yay or nay before I take my money elsewhere.
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 2, 2016 7:53:01 GMT -6
Thunderbolt Compatibility For Windows 10 Systems With UAD Interfaces With Upcoming UAD vV9.0 Software
The Windows version will support UAD Thunderbolt devices when using Windows 10 on computers that have native Thunderbolt 3 support via a USB Type-C connector (Skylake processor or newer). 32-bit UAD ASIO Thunderbolt drivers and 32-bit DAWs will not be supported for UAD Thunderbolt on Windows 10.
Thunderbolt-equipped Apollo Twin, Apollo 8 (DUO and QUAD), Apollo 8p, Apollo 16, and Apollo FireWire audio interfaces, as well as UAD-2 Satellite Thunderbolt devices will all be able to be connected to Windows 10 computers as long as they have a Thunderbolt 3 connection. (A qualified Thunderbolt 3 to Thunderbolt adapter will be required) •All Thunderbolt-equipped Apollo and UAD-2 devices will be available to Windows 10 users with Thunderbolt 3 PCs •Allows current PC-based Apollo and Apollo 16 FireWire users to upgrade their rigs to Thunderbolt speed and stability with UA's Thunderbolt Option Card •Compatible with Windows 10 64-bit only •PCs must be equipped with Thunderbolt 3 via USB-C (older Thunderbolt systems will not be supported)
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 2, 2016 9:55:32 GMT -6
UA pushed the launch to tomorrow: drag
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Post by Guitar on Nov 2, 2016 14:01:49 GMT -6
UA pushed the launch to tomorrow: drag LOL. One last kick in the groin before the healing begins.
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 2, 2016 14:43:08 GMT -6
Maybe, I think it was pro tools expert who said today, not UA.
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Post by veggieryan on Nov 2, 2016 17:24:06 GMT -6
Ugh... UAD... get your $#!+ together!
side note: An octo apollo with all AES in/out is just about the only thing I want to see from them. I'm done suffering through the sub-par apollo conversion and the ADAT in/out is a joke. The routing in console is so restrictive that I just want to use the apollo as an effects unit connected to a Motu 112D via AES and routed to the aux sends...
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Post by ChaseUTB on Nov 2, 2016 19:40:18 GMT -6
How does the free satellite promotion work? veggieryan why do you consider the conversion subpar? Also compared to what other conversion?
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Post by hasbeen on Nov 3, 2016 6:34:09 GMT -6
How does the free satellite promotion work? veggieryan why do you consider the conversion subpar? Also compared to what other conversion? I got a free satellite when they did this last year. Easy. Buy the Apollo and register. They send you a Quad Satellite. Last time it was a little slow to get but I am hoping they learned from their mistake and have plenty ready to ship this offering. As far as the conversion goes, no problems here. I love my Apollo and the UAD platform. I have been a user for years. I strongly advise you do some google research and ear to ear listening on your own. Go to the website and peruse the tutorials and videos including sound files. There will always be users who are dissatisfied no matter what but I am a happy customer. The Thunderbolt format has made recording so much easier for me. The Unison plug ins just get better and better.
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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 3, 2016 7:56:54 GMT -6
It's expensive. No doubt. But they have a stellar track record for the most part. I wouldn't have any problem doing a record with a blackface Apollo. There is definitely better AD and DA, but certainly nothing that would impede the creative process.
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Post by deehope on Nov 3, 2016 9:51:33 GMT -6
It's expensive. No doubt. But they have a stellar track record for the most part. I wouldn't have any problem doing a record with a blackface Apollo. There is definitely better AD and DA, but certainly nothing that would impede the creative process. how does it compare to the svart box?
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Post by ChaseUTB on Nov 3, 2016 10:59:27 GMT -6
It's expensive. No doubt. But they have a stellar track record for the most part. I wouldn't have any problem doing a record with a blackface Apollo. There is definitely better AD and DA, but certainly nothing that would impede the creative process. I am on SF FW, I'm afraid with the new TB annnouncements for Windows only accepting tb3, my SF Apollo will be even harder to resale even with TB card... I was hoping you had a little more feedback regarding the conversion between SF and BF quad Apollo 8... I make all my productions, songs, mixes and masters with the SF.... I don't know if buying a separate DAC for monitoring/ mastering would be better or screw the multiple boxes and keep it simple and go BF with the current promotion.
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Post by ChaseUTB on Nov 3, 2016 11:02:05 GMT -6
How does the free satellite promotion work? veggieryan why do you consider the conversion subpar? Also compared to what other conversion? I got a free satellite when they did this last year. Easy. Buy the Apollo and register. They send you a Quad Satellite. Last time it was a little slow to get but I am hoping they learned from their mistake and have plenty ready to ship this offering. As far as the conversion goes, no problems here. I love my Apollo and the UAD platform. I have been a user for years. I strongly advise you do some google research and ear to ear listening on your own. Go to the website and peruse the tutorials and videos including sound files. There will always be users who are dissatisfied no matter what but I am a happy customer. The Thunderbolt format has made recording so much easier for me. The Unison plug ins just get better and better. Hello, did you have the SF Apollo and can you compare it to other converters? Is the DAC improved or do you use a separate DAC for monitoring? Do you feel a SF to BF upgrade would be better than adding a separate DAC like a Dangerous Source? I always wanted a Avocet but it's as pricey as BF Apollo
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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 3, 2016 11:02:56 GMT -6
It's expensive. No doubt. But they have a stellar track record for the most part. I wouldn't have any problem doing a record with a blackface Apollo. There is definitely better AD and DA, but certainly nothing that would impede the creative process. how does it compare to the svart box? Similar. I thought the svart da was a little more pristine
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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 3, 2016 11:04:12 GMT -6
I'm talking about the black face. Which was an upgrade from the silver face. The smart box was a big improvement from the silver face.
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