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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 13, 2017 6:33:52 GMT -6
On the UA site they have said they found some last minute QC production issues so decided to completely address those before shipping.
I understand the frustration but it seems these guys are committed to getting it right the first time, no excuses: I applaud them for that commitment !
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 13, 2017 6:44:44 GMT -6
Follow up: looks like stateside, Sweetwater is handling delivery logistics and are contacting peeps now about delivery very soon , from andyc at ua forum:
"I was one of the first to order and I got a call from my Sweetwater rep a few days ago to say that they would be handling the shipping and were expecting deliveries next week. I should have it in my hands the week after."
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Post by ChaseUTB on Mar 13, 2017 13:54:59 GMT -6
Why not use some of the extra crowd funding to get the ball rolling? The are 100,000 over funded and 3 months late. The crowd funding was smart because on their own dime suffering delays like this could ultimately affect the final product quality and or pricing. Smart moves! Looking forward to real world feedback and thanks for the vid Vincent đ
Maybe I need to start a disaster relief fund for myself
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Post by donr on Mar 13, 2017 21:26:35 GMT -6
I'm really curious about the Sphere mic, and own VMS. I'm not sure how accurate this is, but this video comparing them is interesting. It is a harmonics analysis of the various emulations of each mic. Vincent, since I bought a Townsend mic, that video is a bummer.
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Post by NoFilterChuck on Mar 14, 2017 3:36:22 GMT -6
It's possible that they disable processing unless the mic is plugged in. perhaps send them an email and let them know what this video is out there?
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Post by sirthought on Nov 28, 2018 16:06:57 GMT -6
I'm researching possibly purchasing one of these. Anyone here have any first-hand experience with one?
I've downloaded all the tests and been really impressed with the results. I don't have money for a ton of mics, so this seems like an option that sounds decent at it's price point and you get some unique functionality.
My biggest concern is the software/hardware being eclipsed and forgotten in whatever next cycle comes for the company. You can always resell a decent studio mic, unless it has zero application due to some sort of software update.
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 28, 2018 16:10:03 GMT -6
I havenât read one dissatisfied user review at ua forum. They all seem to love it and simply want another.
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Post by sirthought on Nov 28, 2018 16:27:54 GMT -6
I havenât read one dissatisfied user review at ua forum. They all seem to love it and simply want another. Yeah, I'm noticing that. I expect that that group is fully swigging the proverbial cool aid. Just hoping to hear some viewpoints from people who pulled the trigger. It certainly is a useful thing to have if you like the sound.
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 28, 2018 16:41:26 GMT -6
If you dropped close to 2 gâs and were unhappy, do you think youâd be making nice at ua forum ?
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Post by bram on Nov 28, 2018 16:45:59 GMT -6
My biggest concern is the software/hardware being eclipsed and forgotten in whatever next cycle comes for the company. You can always resell a decent studio mic, unless it has zero application due to some sort of software I have one. Canât compare to any of the vintage mics it models so Iâm not coming from an accuracy standpoint. But from a useability standpoint, itâs very versatile as the different mic models significantly change the tonality of the mic, as well as the ability to alter the polar pattern in post, or use it as a stereo mic. Itâs a workhorse and very adaptable to different voices and sources. It also sounds great. I donât mean, âsounds great for a modeling micâ, I mean it sounds great even when using it in L22 (no modeling) mode. I donât hesitate to use it alongside a REDD mic. I get where youâre coming from as far as being suspicious of the ubiquitous positive reviews over at UAD forum. If I had to be critical of the sound, itâs not as â3Dâ or âAliveâ feeling as say the REDD. So maybe ever so slightly 2D (thatâs straight into the unison pres), but it hasnât gotten in the way of a good recording. As for your concerns about the software/hardware lifecycle, well a couple of thoughts: 1. You can use the mic with any stereo preamp (ideally matched gain, although you can calibrate the mic if not matched). You can then load the VST in your DAW to change models/polar pattern. This is all without using UAD hardware. 2. In order to monitor through the mic modeling plugin with no latency, then yes, you do need to be in the UAD Apollo hardware ecosystem, which is bound to change over the years. I would imagine theyâd keep comparability up with the Sphere though. In any case, there are plenty of fantastic mics out there these days. If you like the idea of being able to drastically change the recording in post, or audition a bunch of different mic models on a singer in a matter of seconds, it can be a useful tool. Thereâs of course something to be said for having too many options.
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Post by sirthought on Nov 28, 2018 17:13:01 GMT -6
If you dropped close to 2 gâs and were unhappy, do you think youâd be making nice at ua forum ? LOL That does make sense, but we know UA stuff isn't perfect and many never seem to complain about it. You make a good point.
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Post by sirthought on Nov 28, 2018 17:25:10 GMT -6
I have one. Canât compare to any of the vintage mics it models so Iâm not coming from an accuracy standpoint. But from a useability standpoint, itâs very versatile as the different mic models significantly change the tonality of the mic, as well as the ability to alter the polar pattern in post, or use it as a stereo mic. Itâs a workhorse and very adaptable to different voices and sources. It also sounds great. I donât mean, âsounds great for a modeling micâ, I mean it sounds great even when using it in L22 (no modeling) mode. I donât hesitate to use it alongside a REDD mic. I get where youâre coming from as far as being suspicious of the ubiquitous positive reviews over at UAD forum. If I had to be critical of the sound, itâs not as â3Dâ or âAliveâ feeling as say the REDD. So maybe ever so slightly 2D (thatâs straight into the unison pres), but it hasnât gotten in the way of a good recording. As for your concerns about the software/hardware lifecycle, well a couple of thoughts: 1. You can use the mic with any stereo preamp (ideally matched gain, although you can calibrate the mic if not matched). You can then load the VST in your DAW to change models/polar pattern. This is all without using UAD hardware. 2. In order to monitor through the mic modeling plugin with no latency, then yes, you do need to be in the UAD Apollo hardware ecosystem, which is bound to change over the years. I would imagine theyâd keep comparability up with the Sphere though. In any case, there are plenty of fantastic mics out there these days. If you like the idea of being able to drastically change the recording in post, or audition a bunch of different mic models on a singer in a matter of seconds, it can be a useful tool. Thereâs of course something to be said for having too many options. Great feedback. Thank you very much. High praise from someone who invested in Redd. Interesting that you mention 3D, as that is the term Production Expert uses to describe the L22 compared to other systems. I'm mostly sold on it. I just am hoping to hear comments like yours from people who have had time to work with it. I want something interesting for vocals, was debating between this and a couple other options, but I'm not able to spend as high as several mics discussed here frequently.
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Post by kcatthedog on Nov 28, 2018 18:02:52 GMT -6
People seem to really appreciate how they can manipulate the sound after the fact. Also, Townsend is a separate company from UA. I think they astutely saw the benefit of aligning with UA and seeing/marketing the feature of using the mike also while tracking in console with low latency and with UA plugs if you want?
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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 28, 2018 19:34:52 GMT -6
The 2D thing is what I notice in most all modeling products. At least the ones that are the source of the sound. Thatâs kind of how I would describe the Variax. But as a tool I could totally see it being a valuable. I think donr has one.
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Post by donr on Nov 28, 2018 22:20:49 GMT -6
I need to get off the road and spend more time with my Townsend Sphere. It never sounded bad when I had it up.
I've been using the Chandler REDD and and Miktek CV4 and CV3 when I've been recording acoustically this year. I rarely put up more than one mic at a time.
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Post by bram on Nov 28, 2018 22:30:46 GMT -6
Yeah, my comment about the Sphere being âslightly 2Dâ was only relative to a mic costing 2.5x as much. Iâd say itâs a solid contender for those who arenât looking for/canât afford a big mic locker.
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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 28, 2018 22:37:39 GMT -6
I need to get off the road and spend more time with my Townsend Sphere. It never sounded bad when I had it up. I've been using the Chandler REDD and and Miktek CV4 and CV3 when I've been recording acoustically this year. I rarely put up more than one mic at a time. Scratch that...keep making that money and entertaining all of us!
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Post by ericn on Nov 29, 2018 8:41:04 GMT -6
I need to get off the road and spend more time with my Townsend Sphere. It never sounded bad when I had it up. I've been using the Chandler REDD and and Miktek CV4 and CV3 when I've been recording acoustically this year. I rarely put up more than one mic at a time. Scratch that...keep making that money and entertaining all of us! Yeah the kid is always asking when BOC is coming back to town, we were watching this Tom Petty concert on PBS last night cranked through the Questeds and all I hear is â Dad when is Blue Oyster Cult coming back?â
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Post by sirthought on Nov 29, 2018 16:19:24 GMT -6
The 2D thing is what I notice in most all modeling products. At least the ones that are the source of the sound. Thatâs kind of how I would describe the Variax. But as a tool I could totally see it being a valuable. I think donr has one. I've read your comments about Kemper. Do you feel like the result from that, or possibly this mic, would be hard to overcome with EQ and dynamic processing?
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Post by chessparov on Nov 29, 2018 19:07:05 GMT -6
Donr, I'm about halfway reading through this thread and wondered...
Do you have a couple of personal favorite vocal microphones (Redd/Miktek?), that you tend to use as a comparison benchmark? BTW always been a fan of your voice, and also the arrangements/keys you're singing.
I have a buddy, who's tempted by this microphone system, so I appreciate how helpful this thread is.
Thanks, Chris
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