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Post by rocinante on May 29, 2016 19:04:37 GMT -6
Remember the traditional analog studio standard for outboard for many years was 2 La2 2 1176 2 160xt a x Later SSL buss comp 2 Neve modules 2 512 2 550 2 560 Plus some to taste 2 delays to taste Lexicon Rev spx Build over time and use plugs where you can till you can afford Looking to my left id say its about 90% there. Give or take a few. Need some better delays.
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Post by Martin John Butler on May 29, 2016 22:04:09 GMT -6
I almost think ericn's post is close enough to do anything you need. I'm a singer/songwriter. I dream of being able to one day record a band in a studio of my own, but I think that'll take either me winning the lottery or 2 or 3 covers of my songs that become top ten records.
So, in the meantime, I think about how I can get really close to the kind of sound I dream of at home. I have a simple system, a first generation UAD Apollo duo, a Dizengoff D4 pre, the Warm Audio WA76 and EQP-1A.
Here's what I'd like to build up to, I think. First, a tricked out mac mini and a new Apollo, Then a WA2A. A summing mixer like the Dangerous music 2 bus Plus, and either the Stam SSL compressor for final mix compression, or some other stereo outboard compression, probably 2 DBX 160's, and one more EQP-1A, so I can use the two of them as EQ for my final mix. Perhaps maybe find a used Lexicon reverb, just to see if it feels better than my Relab 480XL plug reverb. Oh, and one 1073 clone, like the Heritage or Great River.
That would mean I can print with analogue outboard, then mixdown with hardware compression and EQ.
Forgetting mics for a minute, the rest isn't that far out of reach. I could settle for a used Dangerous Music 2 bus to keep cost lower.
So.. Apollo quad 8 a 1073 clone, Dizengoff D4 pre WA76 WA2A 2 EQP-1A 2 160X (or Stam SSL) *maybe used Lexicon reverb and delay.
How's that look, am I missing something important? I'd use the Apollo's converters for a while, and eventually look into adding Dangerous music or Svartbox conversion.
I figure this would give me as much analogue as I need in an apartment, and still have the option to keep the recall of a DAW and any plugins I like, for instance I'm fond of the UAD ATR-140 on the 2 bus, and could use UAD's 1176 plugs or Wave CLA 1176's if I needed more compressors to tweak drums. Or is there a mixer that has all these features built in that costs less than all the outboard I mentioned?
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Post by rocinante on May 29, 2016 23:08:08 GMT -6
Not too long ago i used the daw for recall and as a tape machine using the ssl and api waves plugs sparingly. But god damn fab filter, klanghelm, valhalla and trueverb and the damn cla stuff just made it too easy. I still prefer outboard. I promise that guitars tracked through a nice to decent mic, a neve-type preamp and a touch of an 1176 then mixed through a 1084 into an la2a can be fucking bliss. Especially when its done by a good guitarist in a good room .
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Post by Guitar on May 30, 2016 9:56:02 GMT -6
My list is going to look something like this, if I ever get on top of it
Dual LA2A 2 or 3 1176 Pultec Dual LA3A Sontec stereo master EQ SB4000 "SSL" bus compressor a few 500 series EQ Lots of preamps Several channels of cheap VCA and opto compressors Several affordable FX, delay, and reverb
Almost all of this will be DIY, and I already have a lot of circuit boards and front panels for some.
The question for me is if I will stick with the summing mixer that I already have, or go for a big console that will just eat up my whole desk.
Like rocinate said, these new plugins have made it so easy. So I'm really not in a hurry.
I've already got the basic I/O infrastructure including conversion and patchbays, and the summing mixer. It's just a question of slowly filling up racks and spending hours in the garage with the soldering iron. And a few thousand dollars.
The best part about the DIY, for me, is if I do a pretty good job on something, there is almost no chance that I will think about selling it. It's like THIS IS MINE and that feels really good, I don't have to worry about that nagging feeling you get sometimes with expensive gear.
My guitar FX pedalboard is a good example of this. About 90% handmade, including the board itself, and I'm just so happy with it.
The studio racks are an even bigger project really, so it's going to take some time.
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Post by Guitar on May 30, 2016 10:54:41 GMT -6
Oh I almost forgot, I have absolutely got to build a couple of AML 1073 preamp / EQ channel strips one of these days. Then I will mail them to Rupert Neve for criticism.
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