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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 25, 2016 15:41:08 GMT -6
Bought a Seagate 3GB HD...and holy crap it's loud. Can you cover these things up? I guess heat isn't good though, right?
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Post by popmann on Mar 25, 2016 16:34:50 GMT -6
Take it back.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Mar 25, 2016 16:41:18 GMT -6
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Post by NoFilterChuck on Mar 25, 2016 19:38:52 GMT -6
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Post by mrholmes on Mar 28, 2016 4:38:55 GMT -6
If I get new ones they all will be ssd step by step....
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Post by svart on Mar 28, 2016 7:39:30 GMT -6
Also, don't use Toshiba brand drives.. That's what failed in my work computer recently, and research shows an alarming amount of field failures, similar to that 3TB seagate fiasco Chuck linked to.
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 28, 2016 13:18:39 GMT -6
Oh wow. Ok. Glad I asked.
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 28, 2016 13:25:22 GMT -6
So I've been using this as my "write-to" drive. Will I have issues with disk allocation if I replace it with another drive and put that data on the new drive?
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 28, 2016 13:42:14 GMT -6
I'm also having a hard time finding External SSD drives...Any ideas?
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 28, 2016 13:49:36 GMT -6
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 28, 2016 13:51:38 GMT -6
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Post by jcoutu1 on Mar 28, 2016 13:59:27 GMT -6
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Post by rowmat on Mar 28, 2016 14:08:39 GMT -6
I had an IBM 75GXP as referred to in this article. Failed in 3 weeks. IBM's poor response to the 75GXP debacle ultimately ended in IBM quitting the hard drive business and selling their entire hard drive division to Hitachi. I hope Seagate takes heed.
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Post by svart on Mar 28, 2016 14:22:08 GMT -6
I had an IBM 75GXP as referred to in this article. Failed in 3 weeks. IBM's poor response to the 75GXP debacle ultimately ended in IBM quitting the hard drive business and selling their entire hard drive division to Hitachi. I hope Seagate takes heed. Doubtful. as long as sales counter the losses, they'll stick with their business models. When i started with computers back in the early 90's, Seagate was the top of the line. By the late 90's you had these, in order of best to worst: Seagate IBM WD Maxtor Samsung Quantum I worked in a place that was buying drives by the hundreds, and we bought Seagates mostly. Almost zero failures. Later, we were moving to an OEM process and the customer wanted cost savings.. So we moved to Maxtor. Out of a case of 20 drives, maybe 1 or 2 would end up failing in a few weeks to months. Even later, the customer wanted to switch to Quantum drives since they were like half the price of the Seagates.. Out of a case of 20, 3-4 would not work or would die within minutes. Another 2-3 would die in a week or so, and a few more would die in the next few weeks to months. We would complain to Quantum, and they would just send more drives. They didn't even care if they died, nor did they care HOW they died, nor did they care to get them back. We just threw them away by the dozens. So, shortly thereafter, Maxtor bought Quantum. Maxtor's quality fell down to Quantum's level. Where Maxtor was a decent drive before, now we expected large numbers of failures. Eventually Seagate bought Maxtor.. Seagate's quality fell down to Maxtor's level.. And hasn't really gone up since. WD actually became a decent drive, when before it wasn't a reliable brand. Samsung sold to someone, IBM sold to Hitachi, Hitachi sold to Toshiba, etc. The HDD industry is an incestuous monster these days. HGST came about from the incest of Toshiba/Hitachi/Samsung, etc, but seems to have made a better product since. I use WD blacks in everything, but I might switch to HGST on some things now.
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Post by 79sg on Mar 28, 2016 19:40:23 GMT -6
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 28, 2016 19:43:56 GMT -6
Decided to go the SSD route. Bought a USB3 enclosure. Seems to work really well. Gonna put it through the paces in a bit. Sacrificed storage for speed.
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Post by mrholmes on Mar 28, 2016 19:48:49 GMT -6
thats cheap they are way more expensive in europe
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 28, 2016 20:03:07 GMT -6
So I wonder what - if any - advantages I will get from the SSD being a "write-to" drive? I don't really need lower latency...Maybe this will solve some of the issues I've been having with PT12...I've had to raise the disk cache from "normal" because I was getting some CPU spikes. Wondering if that has more to do with 12.4 though.
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Post by mrholmes on Mar 28, 2016 20:10:28 GMT -6
So I wonder what - if any - advantages I will get from the SSD being a "write-to" drive? I don't really need lower latency...Maybe this will solve some of the issues I've been having with PT12...I've had to raise the disk cache from "normal" because I was getting some CPU spikes. Wondering if that has more to do with 12.4 though. ssds are fast enough to use the whole bus power.... it makes you system faster....
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 28, 2016 20:27:55 GMT -6
I've had one as my boot drive...just wondering where I will see improvement in the write-to drive. Probably over all CPU improvement in the DAW.
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Post by ericn on Mar 28, 2016 21:04:33 GMT -6
I've had one as my boot drive...just wondering where I will see improvement in the write-to drive. Probably over all CPU improvement in the DAW. Yes that is where you will see it! People forget that in the old days we didn't give a crap what the boot drive was , but we needed that drive that was always reading writing rewriting, then everybody couldn't wait for there computer to boot! Now back to my original cynical thought But guys we don't need big drives anymore we have Avid everywhere! It's the cloud the cloud I say ! Keep that gianormose super sized thing for archive ! But then my heads in the clouds , only to find Avids is up their Ass!
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Post by javamad on Mar 29, 2016 2:50:53 GMT -6
HI All,
On using SSD drives: bear in mind that an SSD failure can render the whole drive un-recoverable. There are not really repair tools/techniques as the technology is different.
This is not a deal-breaker but it does mean that you want to plan for that. So, ideally, if you use SSD drives as work drives - to get that speed we all love ... be sure the whole thing is backed up, continuously, onto ordinary drives.
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Post by mrholmes on Mar 29, 2016 3:42:38 GMT -6
I've had one as my boot drive...just wondering where I will see improvement in the write-to drive. Probably over all CPU improvement in the DAW. Yes that is where you will see it! People forget that in the old days we didn't give a crap what the boot drive was , but we needed that drive that was always reading writing rewriting, then everybody couldn't wait for there computer to boot! Now back to my original cynical thought But guys we don't need big drives anymore we have Avid everywhere! It's the cloud the cloud I say ! Keep that gianormose super sized thing for archive ! But then my heads in the clouds , only to find Avids is up their Ass! With or without cloud it makes sense to have a physical back up at home too.
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Post by jazznoise on Mar 29, 2016 13:00:34 GMT -6
Western Digital have the highest reliability in the market currently. Can't recommend anything else.
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Post by swurveman on Mar 29, 2016 13:11:39 GMT -6
Since were talking about this, what about the other solution which is to put the computer with the audio interface in a room 10 feet away? There's the elongated chord to the video monitor, the elongated keyboard cable (I've found wireless being very sketchy even a couple of feet away ) , the elongated mouse chord, the elongated midi cables, the elongated dsub cables etc. etc.
Is anybody doing this here?
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