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Post by ericn on Sept 22, 2016 10:21:21 GMT -6
You can tell your a live guy!
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Post by jcoutu1 on Sept 22, 2016 10:29:01 GMT -6
Klark Teknik. Nice, bargain for 8 channels of comps. Underrated IMO Haven't used one yet, but 8 channels for $200. I'm sure it'll be fine for utility work at least! Looks pretty flexible.
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Post by keymod on Sept 22, 2016 10:40:32 GMT -6
They work well in the studio also. Versatile, not colored .
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Post by ericn on Sept 22, 2016 11:10:44 GMT -6
Klark Teknik. Nice, bargain for 8 channels of comps. Underrated IMO Haven't used one yet, but 8 channels for $200. I'm sure it'll be fine for utility work at least! Looks pretty flexible. You got the deal of the day!
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Post by keymod on Sept 22, 2016 12:57:02 GMT -6
I paid 800 for mine several years ago and I still feel that was a bargain, so 200 is a steal.
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Post by Guitar on Sept 22, 2016 17:00:28 GMT -6
I really want Xfer Serum for the $10 a month payment plan, but I'm not quite ready to pull the trigger. Killer wavetable synthesizer though, one of the best I've heard. Not quite the same thing, but have you tried the Dark Zebra? Zebra is really popular with film composers. An example sound set I've been looking at u-he a lot. The cool thing about Dark Zebra to me is it's connected to batman movies and hans zimmer. I have used Zebra before, and it's very impressive once you wrap your head around it a bit, very powerful. Kind of like Omnisphere in that way. I was demoing it a while back and I got this gorgeous fake string sound that I might actually put on an album.
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Post by ludwigvanbeartrap on Sept 23, 2016 11:24:52 GMT -6
Just got my Oktava MK-012 pair back from Michael Joly, and...wow, what an improvement! Got them in a guitar center blowout years ago...$100 for the pair. Never cared much for the sound, eventually put them away and forgot about them. Could kick myself now for not getting them modded years ago.
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Post by ericn on Sept 23, 2016 11:52:44 GMT -6
Just got my Oktava MK-012 pair back from Michael Joly, and...wow, what an improvement! Got them in a guitar center blowout years ago...$100 for the pair. Never cared much for the sound, eventually put them away and forgot about them. Could kick myself now for not getting them modded years ago. Welcome to the party. The first pair Harris Broadcast sent us when they started importing , to try to get us to sign as a dealer where so unimpressing that I said I could get a better tone on a Martin with a 57 and did! The stories the old Russlies told me about how bad the old Octavas could fill a book!
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Post by jcoutu1 on Sept 23, 2016 17:12:17 GMT -6
Eggs...
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Post by ericn on Sept 23, 2016 17:53:26 GMT -6
Eggs... Now go find the biggest stupid wicker basket at IKEA or Micheals put Both EGGs in them and we have 2 cliches Put All your eggs in one basket basket case ! How you liking them !
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Post by jcoutu1 on Sept 23, 2016 18:07:44 GMT -6
I had to take down the Adams to fit on my desk, so no direct comparison, but sound good so far. Seem more full range. Need more time though.
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Post by rowmat on Sept 23, 2016 18:19:26 GMT -6
Just got my Oktava MK-012 pair back from Michael Joly, and...wow, what an improvement! Got them in a guitar center blowout years ago...$100 for the pair. Never cared much for the sound, eventually put them away and forgot about them. Could kick myself now for not getting them modded years ago. Welcome to the party. The first pair Harris Broadcast sent us when they started importing , to try to get us to sign as a dealer where so unimpressing that I said I could get a better tone on a Martin with a 57 and did! The stories the old Russlies told me about how bad the old Octavas could fill a book! Funny I quite like my pair of Oktava MK-012's and I haven't even modded them yet! (I have a pair Bill Sitler kits ready to install) I actually prefer them over our KM184's for most things as they are not as hard in the top and warmer in the bottom.
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Post by ericn on Sept 23, 2016 18:36:53 GMT -6
Welcome to the party. The first pair Harris Broadcast sent us when they started importing , to try to get us to sign as a dealer where so unimpressing that I said I could get a better tone on a Martin with a 57 and did! The stories the old Russlies told me about how bad the old Octavas could fill a book! Funny I quite like my pair of Oktava MK-012's and I haven't even modded them yet! (I have a pair Bill Sitler kits ready to install) I actually prefer them over our KM184's for most things as they are not as hard in the top and warmer in the bottom. That's the fun of this ! But they did improve over the last 25 years and well 184's !
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Post by ludwigvanbeartrap on Sept 23, 2016 19:36:57 GMT -6
Ha, I suspect the quality must have varied quite a bit years ago...you know, like those cold December mornings when Ivan's wife undercooked the breakfast kasha...tough to keep your mind focused on assembling microphones. All I know is the ones I got back are noticeably smoother and sweeter sounding. (Not much) money, well spent!
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Post by rowmat on Sept 24, 2016 0:16:47 GMT -6
Funny I quite like my pair of Oktava MK-012's and I haven't even modded them yet! (I have a pair Bill Sitler kits ready to install) I actually prefer them over our KM184's for most things as they are not as hard in the top and warmer in the bottom. That's the fun of this ! But they did improve over the last 25 years and well 184's ! I figure mine were assembled after Igor's second shot of vodka. Any less and he would have had the shakes, any more and he would have inserted the polarised capacitors in backwards. Just lucky I guess!
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Post by dandeurloo on Sept 24, 2016 7:49:38 GMT -6
I had to take down the Adams to fit on my desk, so no direct comparison, but sound good so far. Seem more full range. Need more time though. I had eggs for a year or so. I loved the idea of them design concept and I liked a number of the speakers the designer had previously designed. But I could never get along with the eggs. I moved to ProAcs and Love them. I maybe grabbing a nice pair of NS10's from a friend for a nice deal. Not that I love NS10's but for the price they will be hard to pass up.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Sept 24, 2016 9:33:55 GMT -6
I had to take down the Adams to fit on my desk, so no direct comparison, but sound good so far. Seem more full range. Need more time though. I had eggs for a year or so. I loved the idea of them design concept and I liked a number of the speakers the designer had previously designed. But I could never get along with the eggs. I moved to ProAcs and Love them. I maybe grabbing a nice pair of NS10's from a friend for a nice deal. Not that I love NS10's but for the price they will be hard to pass up. Your posts about them on GS were pretty much the only negative feedback I came across. Price was right, so I pulled the trigger.
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Post by rowmat on Sept 25, 2016 0:56:53 GMT -6
Just picked up a couple of NOS Jensen JT-11-BMQ output transformers which are used in the John Hardy Jensen Twin Servo. I want to compare them with the Cinemag CMOB-2H's in my SCA J99 pre's (although they are probably too big to fit on the PCB) I also want to try one on the output of a SCA C84 (Millenia style) and see how it affects the sonics... ie. will it turn into an NPNG? (Wishful thinking!) Looking at the output topology of the C84, the output transistors are similar in rating to the output transistor pair in a 990 opamp so it looks like the C84 should be able to drive the Jensen without too much trouble although I may have to fit heatsinks to the C84's transistors. It looks like it won't have a problem. From SCA's website regarding the C84... "...Instead of an output transformer, the C84 uses a pair of discrete, high-current cross-coupled buffers to drive the output. This circuit can effortlessly drive a 600 ohm load to +32dBu..."
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Post by Bob Olhsson on Sept 25, 2016 8:14:49 GMT -6
If you want that transformer "mojo," the Jensens will probably disappoint you. They are unbelievably transparent. In daze of old back while Deane was still alive, that was a good thing!
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Post by swurveman on Sept 25, 2016 8:30:35 GMT -6
I had to take down the Adams to fit on my desk, so no direct comparison, but sound good so far. Seem more full range. Need more time though. I'll be curious to hear your opinion of new speakers after owning the Adams. I often wonder about the brightness of my Adams A7x's.
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Post by rowmat on Sept 25, 2016 15:10:30 GMT -6
If you want that transformer "mojo," the Jensens will probably disappoint you. They are unbelievably transparent. In daze of old back while Deane was still alive, that was a good thing! Yes I realise they are extremely transparent. The Cinemags I'm already using in the J99's are 80% nickel and they are very transparent. I wanted to try a variety of transformers on the outputs on a few of my DIY transformer-less micpre's as I already have several more coloured steel trannies (CAPI/API, Neve, Cinemag, Edcor, JLM Audio etc) but no Jensen's until now. I was focusing more on how the SCA J99 and SCA C84 handle vocal sibilance. The J99 is smoother with the transformer-less C84 being more forensic not suprisingly. However I suspect the J99's Lundahl 1538 input transformer is where most of the sonic difference lies. Still no harm in experimenting.
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Post by ericn on Sept 26, 2016 7:14:32 GMT -6
I had to take down the Adams to fit on my desk, so no direct comparison, but sound good so far. Seem more full range. Need more time though. I had eggs for a year or so. I loved the idea of them design concept and I liked a number of the speakers the designer had previously designed. But I could never get along with the eggs. I moved to ProAcs and Love them. I maybe grabbing a nice pair of NS10's from a friend for a nice deal. Not that I love NS10's but for the price they will be hard to pass up. You know I was telling Jesse just a couple of days ago , I love the concept of the eggs but I thought the choice of drivers was the limiting factor!
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Post by Ward on Sept 26, 2016 7:30:30 GMT -6
I had eggs for a year or so. I loved the idea of them design concept and I liked a number of the speakers the designer had previously designed. But I could never get along with the eggs. I moved to ProAcs and Love them. I maybe grabbing a nice pair of NS10's from a friend for a nice deal. Not that I love NS10's but for the price they will be hard to pass up. You know I was telling Jesse just a couple of days ago , I love the concept of the eggs but I thought the choice of drivers was the limiting factor! It is theoretically possible to create a more realistic reproduction of sound with a pair of spherical omnidirectional monitors. But that may have to move beyond the loudspeaker concept. Just my noodle settled tangled up in thoughts again...
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Post by ericn on Sept 26, 2016 21:32:21 GMT -6
You know I was telling Jesse just a couple of days ago , I love the concept of the eggs but I thought the choice of drivers was the limiting factor! It is theoretically possible to create a more realistic reproduction of sound with a pair of spherical omnidirectional monitors. But that may have to move beyond the loudspeaker concept. Just my noodle settled tangled up in thoughts again... Well there are those crazy million dollar price range ion or Plasma speakers and some esoteric B&O that are pretty much omni. Having lived with dipoles and Bipoles ( speakers not talent) and at times tried to mix on them I'll say this when and if we have a revolutionary quality affordable Omni speaker system we are going to have to totally rethink the microphone ! Yes I love my Magnepan MG 3.5's even if At the moment they are in their boxes, nothing and I mean nothing comes close to that line source true ribbon !
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Post by iamasound on Sept 28, 2016 8:18:10 GMT -6
It is theoretically possible to create a more realistic reproduction of sound with a pair of spherical omnidirectional monitors. But that may have to move beyond the loudspeaker concept. Just my noodle settled tangled up in thoughts again... Well there are those crazy million dollar price range ion or Plasma speakers and some esoteric B&O that are pretty much omni. Having lived with dipoles and Bipoles ( speakers not talent) and at times tried to mix on them I'll say this when and if we have a revolutionary quality affordable Omni speaker system we are going to have to totally rethink the microphone ! Yes I love my Magnepan MG 3.5's even if At the moment they are in their boxes, nothing and I mean nothing comes close to that line source true ribbon ! Hello ericn, what do you mean by.."I'll say this when and if we have a revolutionary quality affordable Omni speaker system we are going to have to totally rethink the microphone!"Thanks.
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