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Post by pahstah on Dec 16, 2015 14:44:12 GMT -6
Doug:
i too love the handwritten approach, the only problem is when you want to write on a black colured panel. I cannot find a white coloured sharpie.
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Post by EmRR on Dec 16, 2015 15:01:04 GMT -6
Mmmm, yeah. Not sure the best answer there. I used gold or silver ink pens, though they can be unpredictable.
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Post by pahstah on Dec 17, 2015 8:33:16 GMT -6
Hey Rocinante, look what brought Santa:  |
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Post by yotonic on Dec 17, 2015 9:14:43 GMT -6
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Post by pahstah on Dec 17, 2015 10:05:34 GMT -6
thank you yotonic, I will definitely try it!
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Post by rocinante on Dec 17, 2015 10:35:15 GMT -6
Now that just brings a smile to my face. Cyril Jones (one of the engineers who worked on the Olympic Helios) almost had me convinced to grab one of his not so cheap lustraphone replicas during my research into the helios. I just couldn't justify it. So I figured id do sowter like the remakes and I just love great rivers but in the end it was after David at Cinemag who after analyzing the 22113 circuit then gave me some advice that I chose the cinemags. That guy is really cool. I'm gonna try Sowter with the next one though.
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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 18, 2015 14:36:55 GMT -6
A wider view of the console:  Its an a*p*i* fader channel with 6 auxes and 4 groups ( switchable 8 to 8 groups provided that you ha 8 group master channels). master section is 2 stereo groups with stereo insert post summing but pre fader, one master bus with insert post summing but pre fader. it can be expanded to 16 channels. it has 6 aux sends. in the control room you have a master attenuator, fpm/afl non destructive solo, mono, dim, alt speaker, 2track in1, 2track in2, basic oscillator, talkback, 4 mono aux returns and 2 stereo aux returns. pretty basic but useful. i consider it a good console for tracking. Paolo Paging jsteigerThat's fantastic, man! |
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Post by ericn on Dec 18, 2015 18:26:28 GMT -6
Doug: i too love the handwritten approach, the only problem is when you want to write on a black colured panel. I cannot find a white coloured sharpie. I love it that rig so much I'm probably going to grab a White paint pen at the art supply place down the block and send it to you ! Everybody should check out their local art supply mine keeps me in paint pens and gaffers tape ! |
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Post by pahstah on Dec 19, 2015 11:17:29 GMT -6
A wider view of the console: Its an a*p*i* fader channel with 6 auxes and 4 groups ( switchable 8 to 8 groups provided that you ha 8 group master channels). master section is 2 stereo groups with stereo insert post summing but pre fader, one master bus with insert post summing but pre fader. it can be expanded to 16 channels. it has 6 aux sends. in the control room you have a master attenuator, fpm/afl non destructive solo, mono, dim, alt speaker, 2track in1, 2track in2, basic oscillator, talkback, 4 mono aux returns and 2 stereo aux returns. pretty basic but useful. i consider it a good console for tracking. Paolo Paging jsteiger That's fantastic, man! Thank you John, very appreciated! |
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Post by pahstah on Dec 19, 2015 11:27:47 GMT -6
Doug: i too love the handwritten approach, the only problem is when you want to write on a black colured panel. I cannot find a white coloured sharpie. I love it that rig so much I'm probably going to grab a White paint pen at the art supply place down the block and send it to you ! Everybody should check out their local art supply mine keeps me in paint pens and gaffers tape ! Thank you, this kind of you. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 22, 2015 19:42:49 GMT -6
Holy crap...I just realized that this was hand-written on the body...lol. Wondered what the heck you guys were talking about. Dang, that's some great consistent handwriting.
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Post by rocinante on Dec 22, 2015 21:05:11 GMT -6
Is there a double tall 500 series module anywhere? First time I've ever seen one. Very clever.
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Post by tonycamphd on Dec 22, 2015 21:09:10 GMT -6
no doubt, that is about as cool as shit! nice job man!
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Post by wiz on Dec 23, 2015 2:36:28 GMT -6
Wow
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Post by pahstah on Dec 23, 2015 3:20:02 GMT -6
Thank you guys! i am still working on the last touches but the console is almost finished. i am thinking about doing a kit of it for other diy'ers to build their own. the double tall 500 module is very useful because you can have both a mic input and a line input on two separate connections on the back so you can flip between mic and machine return during tracking or use the entire channel as a daw insert in an hybrid setup.
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Post by nobtwiddler on Dec 25, 2015 23:35:48 GMT -6
My Take, has the best of everything (at least for my wants and needs) Helios, Neve, Api, & Shadow Hills, Retro, (and quite a bit more not shown in this pic. This is one of two remote rigs I have now built. Each rig consist of 6 cases. One rig is almost always out somewhere on long term session rentals, and the other rig, when it's not rented and still here, I will occasionally use it as a summing / mixing setup when I have ongoing recording projects in the studio. This way I don't have to breakdown my studio's console while doing basics, I just mix thru the second rig and not have to repatch or touch anything on the console. Attachments:
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Post by pahstah on Dec 26, 2015 16:27:53 GMT -6
Very nice setup! I see you are using Radar, I've heard good things about it.
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Post by rocinante on Dec 26, 2015 22:16:26 GMT -6
Yep that's just beautiful. And I agree that certainly is an ideal set up. Oh the mojo.
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Post by rocinante on Dec 27, 2015 13:56:41 GMT -6
Fwiw I had used nobtwiddlers pics (kind of my dream studio) which come up in google searches of 'helios' to get my front panel correct. That and many moons ago my band was gonna go to his studio to record our album because despite my self-confidence I wanted his expertise. He of course knew none of this. For a little while there we were based out of Saratoga Springs.
I became a better engineer (had a good teacher) and my band moved to Burlington VT (opening a small studio) and even there his studio was highly respected and a go to for more than a few bands (friends of ours)
So my hat goes off to you sir.
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Post by Ward on Dec 30, 2015 15:59:41 GMT -6
Pahstah (Pastor?) I don't mean this in any kind of offensive way, but am I hearing cross-talk between the channels or is that leakage between drums, bass and guitars? Just curious!
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Post by pahstah on Dec 30, 2015 16:40:38 GMT -6
Pahstah (Pastor?) I don't mean this in any kind of offensive way, but am I hearing cross-talk between the channels or is that leakage between drums, bass and guitars? Just curious! Hi Ward, my name is Paolo, my surname is Stabellini, so pahstah is a mashup of the first letters, not so clever i know but you know when i find muself in front of such a challenge as choosing the nickname my brain got no clue whatsoever.... I know...my english is unreadable...sorry for that. anyway, i believe that the crosstalk you hear is the bleeding between the tracks. The song has been tracked live during a gearfest from Fab Dupont: but i must stress the fact that i' e conceived tris console with tracking in mind. I wanted something that allowed me to track with great pres plus faders to attenuate the signal before convertors, and make it so that players could hear themselves in realtime. |
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Post by pahstah on Dec 30, 2015 16:45:13 GMT -6
Back to topic:  Working on the new helios pcb paolo |
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Post by Ward on Dec 30, 2015 18:27:15 GMT -6
Fantastic stuff, Paolo!!
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Post by rocinante on Dec 31, 2015 10:36:24 GMT -6
Outstanding work Paolo. I really like the cut out board for lorlin type switches. If you want the updated 2128 and 22113 line amps let me know.
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Post by pahstah on Dec 31, 2015 15:03:28 GMT -6
Thank you Rocinante, i'm well aware of the various threads in the Groupdiy site, i've read Ruff Records, igor's and maybe your thread too. I've collected various schematics at the end i decided to use this one:  And i decided to use a that1646 as an output buffer  |
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