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Post by Johnkenn on Aug 30, 2013 16:02:38 GMT -6
Took the Brute over to Sal's and just did a quick little comparison. We didn't sweat over it too much - tried to match levels. Really just trying to see if the Brute could match up tonally and how it dealt with compression compared to the Sta-Level. Shot for getting around -20 db gain reduction on the highest peak on the Sta. Around the same for the Brute. I think the Brute sounded a little better with the 250Hz hipass engaged, so there's one included with that. Original no compression - snd.sc/146RdBnSta-Level (double attack/med release) with -20 peak GR - snd.sc/19TMzpyBrute with -20(ish) peak GR - snd.sc/1cp3LnSBrute -10(ish) GR on peak - snd.sc/15FZpahBrute -10(ish) GR on peak with 250Hz HPF - snd.sc/1cp45mwSorry - Files are no longer available |
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Post by Johnkenn on Aug 30, 2013 16:07:37 GMT -6
We both thought the Brute was pretty damn awesome. The Sta might have a little more goo and chest while the Brute was a little more transparent.
I'm very impressed with how smoothly it handles the gain reduction though. To the point it was negligible to me. The Sta certainly has more gain and is the more powerful box...but it's also $1600 more dollars. The Brute is a SERIOUS alternative.
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Post by sozocaps on Aug 30, 2013 18:17:45 GMT -6
Thanks for your report John! sounds damn good.. yea a little less chest but still great!
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Post by tonycamphd on Aug 30, 2013 19:01:28 GMT -6
the sta- is just friggin awesome sounding, so thick soft and smooth!, really takes the edge off bitey frequencies. i like the brute fine also.
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Post by joey808 on Aug 30, 2013 20:26:18 GMT -6
Sorry John, Loving the STA!
But they both sound good!
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Post by Johnkenn on Aug 31, 2013 6:00:06 GMT -6
I TRULY don't hear that huge a difference. Seriously. I really should have put these in a blind file. I WANT the Sta to just blow it out of the water so it wouldn't be any question...but the differences are really minute to my ears.
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Post by lolo on Aug 31, 2013 7:07:03 GMT -6
If i had seen those brute's on GS last week for $650 a piece, i would have bought one. Both sound great.
I also cant hear a massive difference. Sta is ahead, but not by much.
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Post by masteroftracks on Aug 31, 2013 9:04:50 GMT -6
So has anyone put the Retro Double Wide up against a STA? I know its somewhat of a "little brother" to the STA . I wonder how close it is?
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Post by Johnkenn on Aug 31, 2013 9:33:06 GMT -6
I didn't think it sounded anything like the Sta. IMHO it had a real mid-range honk.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2013 10:11:08 GMT -6
John, you really gotta get on the DIY bandwagon. you can build a STA-level from Drip for like $900 including case.
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Post by Johnkenn on Aug 31, 2013 10:19:37 GMT -6
There aren't any soundfiles anywhere I can find...And it's just not a beginner's project.
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Post by Johnkenn on Aug 31, 2013 11:29:09 GMT -6
As Sal said - if money were no object...the Sta is the choice.
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Post by tonycamphd on Aug 31, 2013 11:49:32 GMT -6
There aren't any soundfiles anywhere I can find...And it's just not a beginner's project. hi JK, did u get that pm i sent u? |
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Post by joey808 on Aug 31, 2013 11:58:38 GMT -6
There aren't any soundfiles anywhere I can find...And it's just not a beginner's project. I would like to hear that too. any pictures? Like John im not a builder but really interested in learning. |
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Post by tonycamphd on Aug 31, 2013 12:10:17 GMT -6
There aren't any soundfiles anywhere I can find...And it's just not a beginner's project. The drip kit gives you options to upgrade the electronics to create a cleaner or more HI FI unit, or you can stick to the traditional route, there is no voodoo in this stuff, get great transformers and tubes, there's a new jj6386 tube that is supposed to be insanely good($99?), and of course the sowter tranny, use atom vintage style axial caps or audiophile caps. It's a versatile beast. I will be building one(or 2?) as soon as they're back in stock, i'll let you know. When i'm done, If anyone with an original sta- is in my area, id be happy to hook up for the creation of a blind comparison test to post up at realgear?? That would be fun!! www.dripelectronics.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=31&Itemid=59T |
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Post by Johnkenn on Aug 31, 2013 12:23:33 GMT -6
What about the release mod? Sta isn't worth much without the faster releases...
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Post by Johnkenn on Aug 31, 2013 12:29:14 GMT -6
dandeurloo don't you have a Drip Sta-Level? What's your take?
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Post by tonycamphd on Aug 31, 2013 12:35:54 GMT -6
here's a groupdiy thread on the release mod, pretty easy peasy, i would like to know dan's take on all this stuff as he's pretty much a jedi of diy, and is seemingly always nails on! www.groupdiy.com/index.php?topic=10134.0 |
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Post by littlesicily on Aug 31, 2013 19:46:37 GMT -6
I'm gonna see if any of my pals that built the drip STA would run a few files thru it for me. If so, I'll post then against my STA.
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Post by joey808 on Aug 31, 2013 21:32:55 GMT -6
Thanks littlesicily, that would be awesome.
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Post by littlesicily on Sept 1, 2013 13:39:16 GMT -6
OK, my bud said he'd process the same vocal file posted here thru his Drip STA. Should have that in a few days.
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Post by joey808 on Sept 2, 2013 18:28:32 GMT -6
Can't wait to hear it!
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Post by littlesicily on Sept 2, 2013 18:31:14 GMT -6
I got the files from my friend and sent them to John.
John, do u wanna add them to your first post?
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Post by lolo on Sept 2, 2013 18:49:26 GMT -6
Post those suckers
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 2, 2013 18:57:44 GMT -6
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