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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2015 12:43:25 GMT -6
Axes can be mono, not busses. So I am saying above that I use an Aux as a Buss in order to run a mono chain of outboard.
However, the way stereo busses are created and used is definitely cool - select a group of tracks, right click, select create buss for these, done.
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Post by lcr on Feb 26, 2015 14:03:21 GMT -6
Axes can be mono, not busses. So I am saying above that I use an Aux as a Buss in order to run a mono chain of outboard. However, the way stereo busses are created and used is definitely cool - select a group of tracks, right click, select create buss for these, done. Really, I will have to revisit Studio One... User Error! I am learning Logic ATM, its complex and a little complicated(I guess thats what you get for being so flexible). I am staying in the Logic mode so to speak for now until I get a decent grasp of it(for production). I do like Studio One, Im sure V3 will be a beast. I will say Studio One is (for me) the easiest daw to learn, well, except for mono auxes!! Lol
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Post by mdmitch2 on Feb 26, 2015 22:51:51 GMT -6
I've primarily used Cubase since sx3, but I recently did some mixes in Studio One v2 (collaborating with another studio), and found it to be a very easy transition. In general it seemed to be lacking some non essential features, but was maybe a little easier to use/learn. Having a separate view for all automation was very cool. Integrated Melodyne was also cool.
I'm sticking with Cubase for now, mainly for familiarity, but I could easily switch to Studio One and not sweat it in the least. (Also have PT11/Reaper for importing projects as needed).
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Post by jayson on Mar 1, 2015 8:50:40 GMT -6
I think that the old chestnut of an argument that you have to use PT because it is supported in every studio worldwide is becoming a bit of a red-herring. The same is going to be just as true for pretty much any of the DAWs listed in the poll. I certainly don't hear that argument much at video post houses anymore about Avid or Media 100 video systems. Anybody doing video post is just as likely to use a Mac with Final Cut Pro or even a PC with Vegas - with no proprietary hardware at all- as they are to use an Avid Media Composer based system. Personally I'm a bit of a non-conformist; I've never been a huge PT fan. But then again in 1991, when Pro Tools originally came out, I was using an Amiga 3000 computer running Bars and Pipes Pro with a Studio 16 audio interface. Back then Digidesign was kinda the enemy in my world, plus PT didn't support midi and wouldn't for another 10 years.
I can't speak for anybody else, but nowadays I have multiple DAWs installed on my production machines; it's not as if owning the licenses for multiple platforms is that cost prohibitive. I mean what's Logic X, Digital Performer or Cubase cost now - a whopping $200 to $400? Heck, Harrison Mixbus and Reaper are significantly less than that. These days I think most DAWs have more similarities than differences and, for the most part, the price points are reasonable enough that it isn't an outrageous proposition to have most of the prominent ones represented on any good production machine. From the client's viewpoint I would likely make a point to avoid any facility that didn't.
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Post by nobtwiddler on Mar 2, 2015 17:29:09 GMT -6
Everyone should just buy a Radar, use a console (ANY decent CONSOLE) some cool outboard, and make some music! F%^&# all this DAW Nonsense.
Ok, I'm done...sorry.
It's Miller time!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 5:57:40 GMT -6
:-D Yepp. Seems it's OTB time for me again around end of this month. 24ch DAC will come for console feed... DAW will not be of this importance anymore. Start, Stop, Record, Rewind.
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Post by Randge on Mar 3, 2015 17:42:09 GMT -6
Until I get into the editing process, that is how I treat Cubase. One big capture devise. Vari-Audio and Cubase's feature set does it for me and I haven't seen a DAW with anything more powerful than that on the market.
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Post by winetree on Mar 3, 2015 20:12:42 GMT -6
Everyone should just buy a Radar, use a console (ANY decent CONSOLE) some cool outboard, and make some music! F%^&# all this DAW Nonsense. Ok, I'm done...sorry. It's Miller time! +1 Just bought a Radar V ( 24/96 converters ) to hook up to the rebuilt Harrison console with tons of real outboard gear and mics. Just need to finish the studio rebuild and make music.
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Post by nobtwiddler on Mar 5, 2015 18:13:30 GMT -6
"+1 Just bought a Radar V ( 24/96 converters ) to hook up to the rebuilt Harrison console with tons of real outboard gear and mics. Just need to finish the studio rebuild and make music."
This will change your life... It's back to making music, the good ole fashioned way!
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Post by tasteliketape on Mar 5, 2015 20:09:57 GMT -6
To hijack for a moment is There any radar models to stay away from etc features (other than just obselete),mechanical , firmware so on?
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Post by mrholmes on Mar 5, 2015 20:22:44 GMT -6
Just an idea? I am a logic user but I am also pissed by the Apple WAY. Suddenly you have to buy new hardware to make Logic 10.01 run on your old, but still fast enough, mac pro.
I decided not to upgrade and to use what I have at Logic 9. The best of it all I do not miss anything because the most new features are fake plugs, or things I already own by 3rd party brands.
Another plus point is I have a stable running system. I do not care what the latest hype is, what saves me a lot of time. Oh yeah and I do not have to pay WUP at Waves with this decision too. I am still on OSX 10.07 with my studio mac…. I love it.
Biggest plus point is time saving no crashes, no worries etc.
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Post by tasteliketape on Mar 5, 2015 22:07:58 GMT -6
How come.no love for sampletuide ? Because it's windows only or flawed? Been around a long time but never see it mentioned
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Post by henge on Mar 5, 2015 22:26:28 GMT -6
I use and love Reaper only because I'm very comfortable with it. But be aware that reaper does not play nicely with alot of hardware inserts. Cubase I hear is rock solid with outboard. It also has outstanding midi capabilities. I've heard that it's a very stable program now so I'll have to vote Cubase on this one.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Mar 6, 2015 8:25:19 GMT -6
Logic just keeps getting better and better, considering everything that comes with it, I think it's a no brainer.
Their new compressors alone are worth the cost of entry. I have all the Waves compressors, A.O.M,, and Slate's FG-X, and Logic's Focusrite Red tops them all, really, it's just better. Add around 30 viable drum kits that I can switch to the midi pattern I have in Superior Drummer, quick and easy editing, and their guitar amps are as good as any out there, except for one I've heard, ( I forget which one), and it seems to me to be the better toolkit.
Oh, and from what I've gathered, Pro Tools seems to have a way of screwing things up way too often, and charging you for the privilege.
*mrholmes, I had Logic 9, and you couldn't pay me enough to go back, it's like comparing a Ford to a Ferrari to me. Apple is frustrating, believe me, I get it, but for me Logic X was worth every gripe. It just works better, looks better, (easier on the eyes is more important than it sounds), and to me sounds just a little cleaner. Could be plug ins sound better in 64 bits, but I'm not certain. I haven't had a single glitch, really, not one that was Logic's fault in at least a year and a half now, so I think that qualifies as "stable". I used to have issues all the time in Logic 9. I do appreciate the "don't fix what ain't broke" concept, but the move to Logic X was relatively easy, and I felt like I was really getting my money's worth, and more so.
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Post by Ward on Mar 6, 2015 12:49:47 GMT -6
This thread has also made me understand one thing about myself: I am terrified of change.
Going from Analog to mixed analog/Pro Tools in the early days was a bit unsettling... going straight into Pro Tools fully was scary but eventually I got over it. Changing again is terrifying.
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Post by WKG on Mar 6, 2015 14:09:00 GMT -6
I use and love Reaper only because I'm very comfortable with it. But be aware that reaper does not play nicely with alot of hardware inserts. Cubase I hear is rock solid with outboard. It also has outstanding midi capabilities. I've heard that it's a very stable program now so I'll have to vote Cubase on this one. Long time PT user here but I've been digging into Reaper recently and really like it alot. The customization aspect is a little disconcerting at first but get easier as you go along and I love being able to import/create themes! V5 should bring some handy new stuff also. OMF/AAF import/export is not a feature right now though. To add that to Reaper I'd have to add AATranslator for another $199.
I usually use the DAW as a capture tool so pretty much any of them work there but lately I have been working on some creative veins that will require more MIDI incorporation with vi's etc to flesh out. Cubase 8 has my interest there and looks like it might be a more effective composition tool with the chord pad etc. OMF capability is nice too.
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Post by mrholmes on Mar 6, 2015 14:44:35 GMT -6
*mrholmes, I had Logic 9, and you couldn't pay me enough to go back, it's like comparing a Ford to a Ferrari to me. Apple is frustrating, believe me, I get it, but for me Logic X was worth every gripe. It just works better, looks better, (easier on the eyes is more important than it sounds), and to me sounds just a little cleaner. Could be plug ins sound better in 64 bits, but I'm not certain. I haven't had a single glitch, really, not one that was Logic's fault in at least a year and a half now, so I think that qualifies as "stable". I used to have issues all the time in Logic 9. I do appreciate the "don't fix what ain't broke" concept, but the move to Logic X was relatively easy, and I felt like I was really getting my money's worth, and more so. I believe you that its true. But I also know they could code Logic 10 in taht way that it stll runs on my old Mac pro from 2006. And Logic 10 is, to me, not worth 3.5 K in Euro (New Mac Pro) plus 180 Euros for Logic. I am not one of those consumers who is happy to be forced to consume a new computer if the old one still runs fine. Sorry I produce very good sounding music with the old mac and it is very seldom that he runs out of power, and if he does I switch on my Laptop with Logic Node and we are back in the game. I love to have my freedom as consumer... no I do not buy new things anymore because of fucking Apple policy.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Mar 6, 2015 15:04:26 GMT -6
I do understand , my late 2009 iMac is getting long in the tooth now, and UAD just made a huge overhaul of their Apollo system and changed to Thunderbolt 2, so I'm feeling the push to upgrade, yet I'm doing fine right now.
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Post by formatcyes on Mar 9, 2015 14:39:23 GMT -6
Logic is getting a lot of love in this poll. Interesting.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Mar 9, 2015 15:32:04 GMT -6
It keeps getting better is why, and a lot of folks are familiar with Garage Band, which helps with Logic X, besides it looks cool ;-)
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Post by formatcyes on Mar 12, 2015 18:07:44 GMT -6
Been using LogicX for a couple of days. I have demoed quite a few other DAW's in the last couple of years couldn’t get a handle on them. LogicX has been almost seamless. It does look good, works fast I have been able to find everything I want in minutes. The stock plugins are worth the entry price al-own. I think I may have found my new DAW.
Thanks guy's who voted for Logic.
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Post by brucerothwell on Mar 13, 2015 14:34:24 GMT -6
Eventually, Harrison Mixbus might catch on -- it has an analog sound to it. It has compressor and eq built into each channel.
I own it, but have not switched over to it yet. It is at 2.5 (IIRC), but 3.0 is slated to be quite an upgrade.
It has been on sale for $39 for quite some time. To me, it is a no brainer to buy it just to have another option.
I have also seen a video (and experimented with it myself) on the topic of routing Pro Tool tracks over to Mixbus for mixing.
If I do leave Pro Tools, that is where I am figuring I'll head.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2015 20:01:51 GMT -6
..., but 3.0 is slated to be quite an upgrade. LOL. Made my day. Agree with everything else you said about Mixbus. We have 2 licenses, the second was even cheaper, below 30 bucks - couldn't resist to buy my brother one for birthday. :-D I also have a Harrison effects bundle that is inbuilt and can be activated, very high usability and good workflow and excellent sonic qualities.
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 14, 2015 10:30:24 GMT -6
I'm struggling with change too...Did the last two projects in Cubase and while it's really good, I don't have that sense of security that I had from using PT's for the last 10 years - that foundation, you know...I know what "this" sounds like everywhere and I can build off that.
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Post by henge on Mar 14, 2015 10:40:30 GMT -6
..., but 3.0 is slated to be quite an upgrade. LOL. Made my day. Agree with everything else you said about Mixbus. We have 2 licenses, the second was even cheaper, below 30 bucks - couldn't resist to buy my brother one for birthday. :-D I also have a Harrison effects bundle that is inbuilt and can be activated, very high usability and good workflow and excellent sonic qualities. Is Slate rumored to be buying Harrison?
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