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Post by channelcat on Feb 3, 2015 17:53:40 GMT -6
Did anyone else notice the soon-to-be-released D864 vari-mu comp posted on the Dizengoff FB page? Based on an old Federal design. Matt commented that pricing may be around the same as the D4!!!
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Post by jcoutu1 on Feb 3, 2015 18:07:00 GMT -6
Did anyone else notice the soon-to-be-released D864 vari-mu comp posted on the Dizengoff FB page? Based on an old Federal design. Matt commented that pricing may be around the same as the D4!!! I've been following. $6/650 for that is BOSS. The Schmidlin Fed+ that I had goes for like $1500. This looks like a great deal. |
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Post by ericn on Feb 3, 2015 19:09:49 GMT -6
This has me thinking.
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Post by odyssey76 on Feb 3, 2015 20:57:13 GMT -6
I've never heard of these guys. How's their build/sound reputation?
Does anyone have any Dizengoff gear? Curious because I'd love a Vari Mu comp especially at that price. It also says limited edition. Any idea how many they're going to make?
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Post by ericn on Feb 3, 2015 21:04:00 GMT -6
This is Matt who started BLA!
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Post by jcoutu1 on Feb 3, 2015 21:04:27 GMT -6
New company from the founder (?) of Black Lion Audio. The only product released so far was a limited edition D4 (Redd47 style) preamp. dizengoff, care to chime in? |
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Post by winetree on Feb 3, 2015 21:19:27 GMT -6
I'm not on Facebook could you post a link to the comp. so I can see without joining.
I've got 2 of the D4 (Redd47 style) preamps. Have yet to try them out.
I need to setup a few more things in the studio and test them out.
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Post by 79sg on Feb 3, 2015 21:27:23 GMT -6
I preordered one of the D4 (Redd47 style) preamps and should receive it next week per Matt. Interested in the D864 vary mu compressor as well. I went to their site and it is showing the expected price to be $649 plus shipping. dizengoffaudio.com/?page_id=177Scott |
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 3, 2015 22:11:49 GMT -6
Wow...I saw that a while back and figured it was gonna be a lot more expensive than that...Awesome.
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 3, 2015 22:12:15 GMT -6
I preordered one of the D4 (Redd47 style) preamps and should receive it next week per Matt. Interested in the D864 vary mu compressor as well. I went to their site and it is showing the expected price to be $649 plus shipping. dizengoffaudio.com/?page_id=177Scott Start a thread when you get it...love to hear about it. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Feb 3, 2015 22:18:02 GMT -6
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Post by t3 on Feb 4, 2015 2:45:36 GMT -6
The forum's default conehead-baby avatar pic is...creepy. Any way you can change it to default to something else? Like maybe the RGO logo? |
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Post by Ward on Feb 4, 2015 7:41:18 GMT -6
 No make-up gain control? That will make the input and threshold management very tedious. |
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Post by winetree on Feb 4, 2015 12:08:08 GMT -6
New avitar until I can take some pictures and upload one.
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Post by tonycamphd on Feb 4, 2015 12:24:05 GMT -6
The forum's default conehead-baby avatar pic is...creepy. Any way you can change it to default to something else? Like maybe the RGO logo? t3, yours is the best avatar i've seen to date, cool! L E D zeppelin! genous! |
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Post by t3 on Feb 4, 2015 15:34:51 GMT -6
The forum's default conehead-baby avatar pic is...creepy. Any way you can change it to default to something else? Like maybe the RGO logo? t3, yours is the best avatar i've seen to date, cool! L E D zeppelin! genous! Yep, it's so funny I wish I had thought of it. |
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Post by Ward on Feb 5, 2015 7:54:17 GMT -6
Well, girls, You're all pretty... now can we discuss this:
Please?
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Post by odyssey76 on Feb 5, 2015 8:01:39 GMT -6
Well, girls, You're all pretty... now can we discuss this: Please? I'd like to hear thoughts on this as well. Never used a comp without a makeup gain control. Run into a line level amp for boost/cut? Pretty big feature to not have......... |
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Post by ericn on Feb 5, 2015 8:09:28 GMT -6
No make up gain ? That's what I have a console for !
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Post by jcoutu1 on Feb 5, 2015 8:18:19 GMT -6
Doesn't having both an input and threshold control kind of eliminate the need for make up gain? If you need more output, just pull up the input and threshold a little and you're there right? Not perfect, but not the end of the world.
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Post by ericn on Feb 5, 2015 8:26:10 GMT -6
Doesn't having both an input and threshold control kind of eliminate the need for make up gain? If you need more output, just pull up the input and threshold a little and you're there right? Not perfect, but not the end of the world. That's how we did it in the grand old days or just raise the fader. |
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Post by Ward on Feb 5, 2015 9:02:20 GMT -6
Doesn't having both an input and threshold control kind of eliminate the need for make up gain? If you need more output, just pull up the input and threshold a little and you're there right? Not perfect, but not the end of the world. No, just a PITA to be without a standard feature. |
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Post by jcoutu1 on Feb 5, 2015 9:05:18 GMT -6
Doesn't having both an input and threshold control kind of eliminate the need for make up gain? If you need more output, just pull up the input and threshold a little and you're there right? Not perfect, but not the end of the world. No, just a PITA to be without a standard feature. I don't know. The compressor that this thing is modeled after had 1 knob. That's it. Anything beyond that is a bonus in my eyes. |
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Post by Ward on Feb 5, 2015 9:57:50 GMT -6
No, just a PITA to be without a standard feature. I don't know. The compressor that this thing is modeled after had 1 knob. That's it. Anything beyond that is a bonus in my eyes. That's fine... but let's face it, most of us (with or without a console) are trying to get the cleanest path into our DAWs. That means microphone - preamp - (maybe EQ) - compression - Converter. So, we have the microphone placement done, preamp gain for unity gain to the input of the converter (-18DBfs as nominal 0) and then into compressor. Once you adjust the input to hit the right sweet spot, you adjust the threshold to start giving you the optimal compression you are looking for. Then you have "the sound". Now, do you wish to mess with that all over again just to adjust the OUTPUT? No, you want an output control to get it to the first yellow in the DAW's input. Why the first yellow? Because anything above that and your plugins overload. Fine if that's what you need but then an output control will help with that also, if you need it. If they've gone through this much trouble to include an input knob, attack and release as well as threshold, why not include an output control? One could convincingly argue that the input knob is unnecessary and instead have an output control. Clearly opinions vary. This is just mine based on a long history of working with outboard comps. My favorites and most-used tools have this feature. Even the simple LA2a, LA3a designs had two knobs: Compression and output gain. That's a no-brainer to me. |
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Post by odyssey76 on Feb 5, 2015 11:01:28 GMT -6
No make up gain ? That's what I have a console for ! I have to buy a console to use this comp? LOL someday maybe........  |
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