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Post by ChaseUTB on Feb 1, 2017 21:33:34 GMT -6
How hard are these to build for someone who has only built cables ?
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Post by unit7 on Feb 2, 2017 0:16:15 GMT -6
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Post by ChaseUTB on Feb 2, 2017 13:09:09 GMT -6
Thank you for the links... Do you know the price of 2 nv73+eq complete diy kits vs already built? I would also need to build a power supply or purchase one and don't know if I should do that or stick with 19 " gear... Your rack of don classics has me drooling on myself.... Thanks |
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Post by unit7 on Feb 3, 2017 6:26:34 GMT -6
Thank you for the links... Do you know the price of 2 nv73+eq complete diy kits vs already built? I would also need to build a power supply or purchase one and don't know if I should do that or stick with 19 " gear... Your rack of don classics has me drooling on myself.... Thanks No, I don't know prices for assembled 73s with eq |
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Post by ChaseUTB on Feb 7, 2017 18:03:29 GMT -6
Thank you for the links... Do you know the price of 2 nv73+eq complete diy kits vs already built? I would also need to build a power supply or purchase one and don't know if I should do that or stick with 19 " gear... Your rack of don classics has me drooling on myself.... Thanks No, I don't know prices for assembled 73s with eq Ok thank you... last but not least lol, how do they sound compared to other neve pres or preamps in general? |
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Post by ChaseUTB on Feb 7, 2017 18:29:33 GMT -6
jcoutu1 do you diy? I'm thinking bout grabbing two pre + eq... I don't have any soldering tools or an oscilloscope ( even use this? Shows my noob ness) or whatever tools are needed to actually test if the unit works properly etc. I know there are follow along threads and people to reach out too for help which is cool! Lastly what type of 500 series rack for these ? Are the AML ez1073 50% better? Is a bae or real neve 6 times better ( cost / sound wise )
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Post by mdmitch2 on Feb 7, 2017 18:44:53 GMT -6
I think the AML kit is about the same price as the NV73 version with EQ.
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Post by unit7 on Feb 7, 2017 21:55:55 GMT -6
No, I don't know prices for assembled 73s with eq Ok thank you... last but not least lol, how do they sound compared to other neve pres or preamps in general? Did you see the shootout I did a couple of years ago? That was on drums. For drums with a bit of attitude I slightly prefer the AMS/Neves. But for like everything else I slightly prefer the NV73s. Still.. at my place the AMS/Neves are hooked up to my patchbay and always ready to go, so I'm using them only. NV73s are in portable racks for on location recordings. I'm too lazy to set them up for the everyday recording. As mentioned earlier in this thread I wasn't impressed by the NV73 eq. It's ok, and for moderate stuff or just some HPF perfectly fine. Your mileage may and will probably vary. |
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Post by unit7 on Feb 7, 2017 22:08:23 GMT -6
jcoutu1 do you diy? I'm thinking bout grabbing two pre + eq... I don't have any soldering tools or an oscilloscope ( even use this? Shows my noob ness) or whatever tools are needed to actually test if the unit works properly etc. I know there are follow along threads and people to reach out too for help which is cool! Lastly what type of 500 series rack for these ? Are the AML ez1073 50% better? Is a bae or real neve 6 times better ( cost / sound wise ) I trimmed all mine with a DMM only. David @ Don Classics said I'd be fine. i know that they are probably a few mV off from optimal performance (max headroom) but I don't care. They sound great. There should be a tool list at the DON site. Can't advice what racks/PSU to put them in. They can be made both standard 16V or 51X 24V, but I guess you know that by now. |
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Post by ChaseUTB on Feb 8, 2017 0:46:35 GMT -6
jcoutu1 do you diy? I'm thinking bout grabbing two pre + eq... I don't have any soldering tools or an oscilloscope ( even use this? Shows my noob ness) or whatever tools are needed to actually test if the unit works properly etc. I know there are follow along threads and people to reach out too for help which is cool! Lastly what type of 500 series rack for these ? Are the AML ez1073 50% better? Is a bae or real neve 6 times better ( cost / sound wise ) I trimmed all mine with a DMM only. David @ Don Classics said I'd be fine. i know that they are probably a few mV off from optimal performance (max headroom) but I don't care. They sound great. There should be a tool list at the DON site. Can't advice what racks/PSU to put them in. They can be made both standard 16V or 51X 24V, but I guess you know that by now. Yes thanks for all your help! After reading thru the thread, I saw that your AMS Neve are still king of the hill in regards to sonic texture and Yes I read they the big thread with the drums which was awesome by the way thank you for doing that. I don't have any AMS Neve eq's and not having any other HW eq to a/b I figured I would be more than happy with the eq's sound. Prob better than my UAD right 🤣🤓 ( I know, context is a everything ). I have a dmm or two as well. Which racks are 16V the API and Lindell style? Which are 24V? I understand how they work just dont know which is which, I'm a 500 series noob lol 😀 |
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Post by mdmitch2 on Feb 8, 2017 9:27:40 GMT -6
They're all 16 volt except the 51x which can handle 24v, which is only available for DIY. I would skip the Lindell and the other super low budget ones, and go for radial, purple, API, CAPI, etc.
There's a few DIY modules out there that only work on the 51x, but everything else is 16v compatible. IMO, don't bother with the 51x unless there's something specific you want that only works with 24v. Nowadays almost all the DIY kits have been designed to work with either.
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Post by shiftingdullness on Mar 13, 2018 23:52:19 GMT -6
Attachment DeletedAttachment DeletedAttachment DeletedWell, just thought I'd show how vintage components could fit - David built these for me so not really DIY, but maybe helpful pics anyway. Vintage LO1166s can be trimmed to fit in a single space NV73, and NOS Mullard Mustard caps can be fit into most all spaces. The last pic shows 4 NV73EQs with LO1166s, Mustard Caps, and 3 Marinair T1444/10468 input transformers and 1 St Ives 10468 (far right). The NV73EQs compared to the NV73 like for like - all with Marinair T1444/LO1166 combo - reveals to me a more polished sound coming from the NV73EQ, and a slightly more raucous sound from the NV73, presumably due to the lack of loading.
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 14, 2018 8:01:40 GMT -6
Well, just thought I'd show how vintage components could fit - David built these for me so not really DIY, but maybe helpful pics anyway. Vintage LO1166s can be trimmed to fit in a single space NV73, and NOS Mullard Mustard caps can be fit into most all spaces. The last pic shows 4 NV73EQs with LO1166s, Mustard Caps, and 3 Marinair T1444/10468 input transformers and 1 St Ives 10468 (far right). The NV73EQs compared to the NV73 like for like - all with Marinair T1444/LO1166 combo - reveals to me a more polished sound coming from the NV73EQ, and a slightly more raucous sound from the NV73, presumably due to the lack of loading. View AttachmentView AttachmentView AttachmentView AttachmentWelcome! |
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Post by shiftingdullness on Mar 14, 2018 12:25:38 GMT -6
Thank you John. Happy to be here in this epic thread. I see it was mentioned earlier, but I agree these units are much lower noise than I expected. Recently recorded a whisper quiet source, had to really crank it, and didn't have any issues. Also, another pic - the navy blue/gray color scheme of the Don Classics NV73 matches some late 60s Neve 1272s I had. AMS Neve can't seem to get it this close.  |
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Post by decasta on Jan 14, 2022 19:39:44 GMT -6
Reviving this old thread!
For those who have the eq/pre 500 module...
Since it is dual-slotted in a 500 series rack, what's happening for the inputs and outputs of both sides? Are they mirrored? Or is only one enabled?
I'm hoping they operate similarly to how the AML version works, in that one input is for mic, the other input is line, and both outputs are mirrored.
Can anyone confirm this?
Thanks!
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Post by anders on Jan 21, 2022 9:09:33 GMT -6
If you look at the manual, the EQ board is a sort of piggyback to the pre, with no 500 series edge connector. Which would mean the unit is double width, but does not have a double connector. thedonclassics.com/nv73eq/manual/nv73eq-diy-manual.pdfBesides, the pre side does not – unlike the AML – have a mic / line switch, or a line gain rotary (I can't recall right now if the AML also has a dedicated line transformer as well), so you'd have a hard time selecting your input. But still – it sounds fantastic and is a fun build. Best of luck! (I have two NV-73s, but didn't add the Eq. I also have a pair of AMLs. They're all great, and fairly similar soundwise) |
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Post by decasta on Jan 21, 2022 14:22:11 GMT -6
If you look at the manual, the EQ board is a sort of piggyback to the pre, with no 500 series edge connector. Which would mean the unit is double width, but does not have a double connector. thedonclassics.com/nv73eq/manual/nv73eq-diy-manual.pdfBesides, the pre side does not – unlike the AML – have a mic / line switch, or a line gain rotary (I can't recall right now if the AML also has a dedicated line transformer as well), so you'd have a hard time selecting your input. But still – it sounds fantastic and is a fun build. Best of luck! (I have two NV-73s, but didn't add the Eq. I also have a pair of AMLs. They're all great, and fairly similar soundwise) Ahh, this clarifies a lot. I read the manual, but I unfortunately don't really understand it, haha. But thanks for the information. This pretty much confirms that I probably will have to grab the AML. |
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Post by anders on Jan 21, 2022 19:28:22 GMT -6
If you go for the AML, I recommend paying extra for the output volume control. That way, you'll be able to run it a little harder.
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Post by jgabriel on Jun 20, 2022 8:40:52 GMT -6
hi not sure i have total clarity on this, the vintage marinair T 1444 / LO 1166 can fit in the single nv73 space 500 series rack ?
what about the 2nv which has the eq options, still in 1 space rack
have noticed some people mention they needed to "trim" the transformers anybody can shed some light on this?
am considering this build (well my tech would do it) and have tracked down the marinairs but don't want to pull the trigger if they dont fit heh
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Post by jgabriel on Jun 20, 2022 8:47:37 GMT -6
well here the nice fellow confirms the marinairs will fit in the 2 space NV73 EQ, that it was possibly designed to accommodate that so may just got that route, but would be cool to know if they can also fit in the single space pre only version gearspace.com/board/showthread.php?p=13153609 |
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Post by jgabriel on Jun 21, 2022 13:01:54 GMT -6
well just tried to check out and turns out the NV73 kit is out of stock...
real bummer it doesn't say so before you actually try and pay on paypal
strange system
anybody know how to get in touch with them and see if/when they'll be back? no replies from my email inquiries...
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Post by anders on Jun 27, 2022 23:29:51 GMT -6
well just tried to check out and turns out the NV73 kit is out of stock... real bummer it doesn't say so before you actually try and pay on paypal strange system anybody know how to get in touch with them and see if/when they'll be back? no replies from my email inquiries... Try info@thedonclassics.com – David has been very responsive when I've been in contact. |
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Post by jgabriel on Feb 2, 2023 14:02:35 GMT -6
ah i already went ahead and had the vintage marinair mic xformer and output installed in my ez1073
and its making a real nice difference in sound !
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