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Post by EmRR on May 14, 2015 19:28:38 GMT -6
Shallco is one company that will make a switch like that, it'd probably be about 2" x 2" like an old Daven attenuator. Yeah, won't find it in anything anywhere near this price.
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Post by kcatthedog on May 22, 2015 21:09:12 GMT -6
My 2 eqp-wa's showed up today
I must admit I am impressed. Very solid feel, heavy and pleasing to look at ; old school.
I popped the top and took pics do people want me to post ?
I have 2 tb12 and 2 wa76 and although I feel they are well built, I also feel that the eqp is another step up in build quality: everything inside is clean and well done.
I hooked up my 47 into my d4 into the eqp and stuck my headphones in the outputs and just started twisting knobs.
Its definitely active and almost feels alive, instant presence and vibe, all the freq switches are quite precise and the rotary knobs substantial ; plugs sure don't feel like that!
the overlapping bands with the cut and boost is certainly sublime and you can certainly hear the freq's sweeping around.
I have a recent track with tons of the ua pultec mkii on it ( real drums, bass) that i will remaster with the eqp. I'll probably make a video and post it with comparison clips. I am down one set of cables for setting them up on my buss so will look after that first thing tomorrow.
I have a feeling I am really going to dig unlocking their mysteries !
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Post by mdmitch2 on May 22, 2015 21:16:41 GMT -6
I have a recent track with tons of the ua pultec mkii on it ( real drums, bass) that i will remaster with the eqp. I'll probably make a video and post it with comparison clips. I am down one set of cables for setting them up on my buss so will look after that first thing tomorrow. I have a feeling I am really going to dig unlocking their mysteries ! would love to see this -- I use the uad mkii plugin on pretty much every bass and kick track.
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Post by Johnkenn on May 22, 2015 22:05:04 GMT -6
I really want one...but man, eq ITB is SO freaking easy...
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Post by jeromemason on May 22, 2015 23:26:35 GMT -6
I have one.... still kind of amazed they only cost sub $600. I really like it on vocals, lets you pull the chest out of the singer, or put some cut on a soft female/male.
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Post by jeromemason on May 22, 2015 23:38:33 GMT -6
BTW you or anyone else in town is welcome to come over and listen to the Warm EQ and the DBX 560a if you want. I'm just two streets down from Randy's place.
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Post by kcatthedog on May 23, 2015 4:58:06 GMT -6
I really want one...but man, eq ITB is SO freaking easy... true, but the eqp-wa has two i/o balanced xlr and trs, (triple gold plated:)), so the intention is that you keep it patched, xlr for outs from pres/comps when tracking and the trs for line while mixing not quite set and forget, but if you are running off a patchbay, just a normal workflow, i.e., set as an insert in your daw and patch away left everything on since yesterday to burn in tubes, Bryce said it does make a discernible difference ,not huge but smooth things out a little more . if people are using the ua pultec or other pultec plugs and want me to pass a track for them, just take a screenshot of your settings and pm me. I'm on gobbler too. I dig the warm audio product trajectory, already wondering whats next ? my poor bank balance !
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Post by kcatthedog on May 25, 2015 10:00:05 GMT -6
First impressions:
I got two eqp-wa last week and started using them in a mix with ua pultec mkii.
I think the WA are cleaner and that the ua plug has more distortion emulated. Also, the plug is emulating an older unit while the eqp-wa is brand new and technically they are not identical anyway.
I was pleasantly surprised by the eqp-wa's smoothness and glassy tone ( I mean that in a good way), even at its max boost and cut settings. It is both apparent and subtler than I was expecting.
Depending on your workflow and set up , I thought that the eqp-wa being cleaner would have a nice stacking affect across multiple buses for example.
I must admit I enjoyed, turning real knobs and throwing real switches and the EQP-WA certainly has a feel that the plugs in don't .
It was interesting flipping between my drum buss and bass buss and using the EQP-WA additional frequencies to work on the kick and tom timbre and sending the mix buss through it too ( I was sending buses out from pro tools and patching to the eqp-wa's and then bringing the tracks back to protools and printing those.
If you are in the market for hardware eq's the EQP-WA are very good performance and value.
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Post by robschnapf on May 25, 2015 23:33:21 GMT -6
I really want one...but man, eq ITB is SO freaking easy... i have done experiments comparing in the box and hardware eq. i am not a hater. but when you add bottom in the box, it gets bassier like you would expect. when you do it with hardware, the speakers move.... so i definitely pick my battles but it seems to me crucial spots (kick drum, bass) hardware gets the party kicking in a more obvious way.
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Post by ragan on May 25, 2015 23:38:42 GMT -6
Ordered a pair.
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Post by stribor1 on May 26, 2015 1:51:15 GMT -6
For the DIY inclined, check out the AML ezEQP 1 kit. I did a pair and they sound outstanding. Great on Bas, Vocals and on the mix buss they give your mixes a larger than life touch. Some people on the "other pro gear forum" compared it to the real deal and say it's pretty close. I don't have a WARM to compare it to though... www.audiomaintenance.com/acatalog/aml-17-022_extended_info.html
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Post by kcatthedog on May 26, 2015 5:00:44 GMT -6
So why post here in a thread about the warm and not in the diy folder ?? Your post has nothing to do with the topic ?
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Post by indiehouse on May 26, 2015 5:16:50 GMT -6
For the DIY inclined, check out the AML ezEQP 1 kit. I did a pair and they sound outstanding. Great on Bas, Vocals and on the mix buss they give your mixes a larger than life touch. Some people on the "other pro gear forum" compared it to the real deal and say it's pretty close. I don't have a WARM to compare it to though... www.audiomaintenance.com/acatalog/aml-17-022_extended_info.htmlCool! Didn't know they had a Pultec kit. Thanks for the tip! Might have to check that out...
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Post by ericn on May 26, 2015 6:18:56 GMT -6
So why post here in a thread about the warm and not in the diy folder ?? Your post has nothing to do with the topic ? It might be a similar price in Europe and it has the interstage transformer. Hey I bought a Drip board a month before these wee announced and it just sits here! I love Warm I'm buying another WA76 then 2 of the EQs then more WA76s then more EQs I foresee a rack of Warm!
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Post by kcatthedog on May 26, 2015 6:26:36 GMT -6
what's the difference between the inductor and the inter stage transformer: two completely different parts ?
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Post by ericn on May 26, 2015 6:36:10 GMT -6
what's the difference between the inductor and the inter stage transformer: two completely different parts ? The original Pultec design uses a transformer between stages in addition to the inductors. Bryce and the guys sat Cineamag feel they nailed the sound without it and most agree they pretty much nailed it!
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Post by kcatthedog on May 26, 2015 7:02:17 GMT -6
Thx, I do trust David's and Bryce's judgement and have found David very helpful when I have ordered CineMag transformers in the past.
I have never had a real pultec and certainly not a new one so I can't really compare the eqp-wa to anything. The SOS review is interesting for a direct experienced user comparison.
I am liking their overall presence, tone and smoothness. I understand they are literally flat from like 40-40K, whereas I am more used to tube gear sounding really tubey adn warm, so the eqp-wa's clean smoothness are unexpected but appreciated.
The stock tubes do seem very good and need little burn in but they do do smooth out a little more after use. Easy enough to roll in some other tubes if you are so inclined; perhaps later after I get to know the units better but so far I am liking stock just fine.
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Post by cowboycoalminer on May 26, 2015 7:33:54 GMT -6
For the DIY inclined, check out the AML ezEQP 1 kit. I did a pair and they sound outstanding. Great on Bas, Vocals and on the mix buss they give your mixes a larger than life touch. Some people on the "other pro gear forum" compared it to the real deal and say it's pretty close. I don't have a WARM to compare it to though... www.audiomaintenance.com/acatalog/aml-17-022_extended_info.htmlDidn't they have these for sale pre built with a blue faceplate? I checked the website a few days ago but didn't see them. Thought I saw them once.
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Post by ericn on May 26, 2015 8:00:02 GMT -6
For the DIY inclined, check out the AML ezEQP 1 kit. I did a pair and they sound outstanding. Great on Bas, Vocals and on the mix buss they give your mixes a larger than life touch. Some people on the "other pro gear forum" compared it to the real deal and say it's pretty close. I don't have a WARM to compare it to though... www.audiomaintenance.com/acatalog/aml-17-022_extended_info.htmlDidn't they have these for sale pre built with a blue faceplate? I checked the website a few days ago but didn't see them. Thought I saw them once. Yes indeed Colin did have them pre built for a while, but at that point the kit was not listed if memory serves me. I am sure Colin would build one, but as our own Jeff Stieger Pointed out to me take a look at the very detailed build instructions and on his other kits he has shipped the parts pre cut to size. What I am trying to say is DIY will never get any easier than Colin's kits! If it were not for the High cost of shipping these to the US I would own a bunch of these! The Choice is simple 1 reasonably priced pre built Pultec esq that pretty much nails the sound. 2 A simple dead on kit that nails the sound.
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Post by Johnkenn on May 26, 2015 8:51:46 GMT -6
I really want one...but man, eq ITB is SO freaking easy... i have done experiments comparing in the box and hardware eq. i am not a hater. but when you add bottom in the box, it gets bassier like you would expect. when you do it with hardware, the speakers move.... so i definitely pick my battles but it seems to me crucial spots (kick drum, bass) hardware gets the party kicking in a more obvious way. Yeah - that's true. That punch and thump is what's hard to get itb.
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Post by Ward on May 26, 2015 9:13:33 GMT -6
Read all posts in the thread guys, and you'll pick up a few 'pultec tricks'.
As an aside, wouldn't it be nice if all 312s, 1073s and others came with a "drum EQ" switch? You know, 6db moderate notch at 350hz?
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Post by Johnkenn on May 26, 2015 9:18:55 GMT -6
I'm not trying to start a war, but just how different can the Warm and Audio Maintenance kits be?
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Post by ericn on May 26, 2015 9:37:03 GMT -6
I'm not trying to start a war, but just how different can the Warm and Audio Maintenance kits be? Honestly John sound wise everybody tells me just buy the Warm, but those are guys who already have real Pultecs or other clones. Bryce and John were all about nailing the sonics at a price, and they did as well a lot of guys who matched the original circuit! Best way for me to put it is my CAPI VP26s are not circuit wise dead ringers for Vintage 312s BUT the nail that sound as well or better than 90% of what's out there new including what API passes off today. Ill bet the Warm matches up with as many Vintage units as it doesn't ! Give Bryce a ring Ill bet he can swing a Demo! And the fine folks at AMS have them on 3 pay in stock ! If I wasn't going to p/u the Little Champ at the Pawn shop I today I would order one! When it comes to Warn, I shed no tears for selling my Purple 76s knowing it means 4 ch of WA76 and I'm betting the EQ means my Drip board never gets built!
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Post by ericn on May 26, 2015 9:38:03 GMT -6
Also I am trying to convince the local MI shop to become a Warm dealer!
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Post by lpedrum on May 26, 2015 10:21:03 GMT -6
Slightly off topic but Pultec related. I use a plug in and find it really useful for focusing the low end of the kick drum. But I wonder if anyone can fill me in on why the choices are 30, 60 and 100? I personally find that 50hz is where I need to go to get some low end thump out of the kick. Is there a build reason why Pultec chose 60hz? Or was it just an arbitrary choice that everyone seems content to recreate?
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