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Post by levon on Nov 4, 2014 4:57:55 GMT -6
I guess as long as there are women, Tony won't mind the Behringer  . (Edit: why is there an automatic link added to the B-name? Scary.) There are some good suggestions here and Les made some good points. I specifically like the idea of a 'recording/mixing' subforum that can give tips and answer questions, as stupid as they may be to some. I regard fora like this one as a learning experience as much as I enjoy discussing stuff with a bunch of pleasant guys. GS pisses me off every time I go there, I don't even bother to log on anymore, I just read some threads until some idiot gets aggressive. I don't need that kind of thing. I also love that this place is much smaller, we tend to know each other better and that makes for civilized banter. I regularly check all sub-fora here, there are not that many. I enjoy reading the DIY forum, even though I'm not a DIY guy, I can't solder to save my life and I don't understand half of what is discussed there. But I like the skills and enthusiasm that you guys show there. I would also love to see more manufacturers here, but I guess they make better sales with the uninformed crowd at GS who eagerly lap up everything that 'experts' say. If you can, donate some money to keep this place going as it is. RGO really is great the way it is. I would even agree to pay a monthly fee of a few bucks. A couple of beers less won't hurt me. |
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Post by keymod on Nov 4, 2014 5:42:42 GMT -6
Well, I get it...but would you have me dissolve the DIY forum into the main forum? No, keep it as is. And, keep up the good work! |
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Post by ericn on Nov 4, 2014 7:30:27 GMT -6
Also Dr Bill and Brad do spend time here and while there isn't a desperate thread there was some info on this in the AES thread, and picks of Tony and Dr Bill not trying to kill each other!lpedrum - IMO the Silver Bullet thread on GS has been extremely enlightening, intelligent and civil. Several have commented to me directly about that. If you need more info, give it a shot. There's a lot over there. As for a RGO thread on the Silver Bullet discussing it, I'd be happy to oblige, but honestly, it didn't seem there was much interest here. Since I'm not a manufacturer - only teaming up with Brad on this project - I don't know the rules, regs and such. If someone else wants to start a thread on the SB, I'll be happy to chime in if my hands can hold out. The last couple of weeks have brought me severe hand and wrist pain which I've been avoiding, but I can no longer avoid the reality. Playing guitar and keys and mixing are very difficult now, and they are my bread and butter, so I've got to figure it all out, and typing takes a back seat. Somethings up, so I'm trying to cut back on as much typing now as I can. But I'll still give it a go.... eric - what you don't know is that right after those pics were taken, I took TC hostage with the help of some vietnamese women, and am holding him in a dark, damp basement in Little Siagon in the OC with only NS10's, Behringer power amps a couple chinese acoustics, an alexis 3630, some unbranded chinese mics and a mackie mixer until he gave up his password to RGO. It took a couple of weeks of bread and water and shock treatment in addition to his "basement studio" monitoring at 120dB, but he finally gave it up. All posts in the last 72 hours under his name have actually been mine. bwahahahahaha!!!!!!!! k Dr Bill Bring it on ! Tell us everything there is to tell about the SB, though the Coors light inspired name insults my beer taste ( kidddding). As far as hand pain , yeah it sucks , but welcome to my world ! Though If you need the name of a great hand surgeon I have a couple. We have not returned your offers of ransome for Tony. This is not because of some political principal but because we give it another week and we know you will be offering us free Silver bullets to take him back! |
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Post by ericn on Nov 4, 2014 7:42:01 GMT -6
Well, I get it...but would you have me dissolve the DIY forum into the main forum? No, keep it as is. And, keep up the good work! Agreed there will always be some crossover,and that's a good thing but a place dedicated to DIY is a good thing! |
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Post by Bob Olhsson on Nov 4, 2014 8:15:09 GMT -6
I've been moderating pro audio mailing lists and forums for over 15 years. The important thing to understand is that it only takes a handful of people to pollute a forum to the point it's pretty useless. The only solution I've seen is aggressive moderation. That results in a tight knit group with very enjoyable conversations but it doesn't create a forum that is very attractive to advertisers.
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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 4, 2014 8:17:59 GMT -6
3. I value the participation of vendors, ALL vendors. For example, I really dislike the way some RGO members wished to chase Steven Slate away, that's the closest we've gotten to a Gearslutz mentality. If you think he's too self-promoting and don't want to see his opinions, it's really simple, just don't read the threads he participates in. Don't try to protect us from ourselves, we're all adults, we all know vendors will promote their products, their information is still invaluable even if much of it is hype. I actually banned two members as a result of their hatred of SS and their inability not to freak the fuck out over it. One was an "every day" participating member, but he was absolutely out of line (and called me a cunt)... |
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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 4, 2014 8:21:23 GMT -6
Also Dr Bill and Brad do spend time here and while there isn't a desperate thread there was some info on this in the AES thread, and picks of Tony and Dr Bill not trying to kill each other!lpedrum - IMO the Silver Bullet thread on GS has been extremely enlightening, intelligent and civil. Several have commented to me directly about that. If you need more info, give it a shot. There's a lot over there. As for a RGO thread on the Silver Bullet discussing it, I'd be happy to oblige, but honestly, it didn't seem there was much interest here. Since I'm not a manufacturer - only teaming up with Brad on this project - I don't know the rules, regs and such. If someone else wants to start a thread on the SB, I'll be happy to chime in if my hands can hold out. The last couple of weeks have brought me severe hand and wrist pain which I've been avoiding, but I can no longer avoid the reality. Playing guitar and keys and mixing are very difficult now, and they are my bread and butter, so I've got to figure it all out, and typing takes a back seat. Somethings up, so I'm trying to cut back on as much typing now as I can. But I'll still give it a go.... eric - what you don't know is that right after those pics were taken, I took TC hostage with the help of some vietnamese women, and am holding him in a dark, damp basement in Little Siagon in the OC with only NS10's, Behringer power amps a couple chinese acoustics, an alexis 3630, some unbranded chinese mics and a mackie mixer until he gave up his password to RGO. It took a couple of weeks of bread and water and shock treatment in addition to his "basement studio" monitoring at 120dB, but he finally gave it up. All posts in the last 72 hours under his name have actually been mine. bwahahahahaha!!!!!!!! My ad pricing is extremely reasonable. |
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Post by lpedrum on Nov 4, 2014 8:41:29 GMT -6
I agree that the smaller size of RGO seems to lead to more civil discussions--this is definitely a friendlier place than GS. I also feel that this site is a little more focused on where most recording is headed -- small but powerful studios that put the means of production in the hands of musicians. It's easy to sit back and say try this or try that. But I'd like to see more interaction with gear companies (large and small) and invite them to be a guest on a specific thread. Is it difficult to invite them to do that? For instance, a larger company (Apogee) just released a new Ensemble, and a smaller company (Louder than Liftoff) just released their new Silver Bullet. Yet I had to go to GS to ask hear what the manufacturers were saying and I think the conversation would have been more enlightening and intelligent if it took place here. Would it make sense to invite a company rep to be involved with a "troll-free" thread for a week? And maybe make it worth their while with some free advertising? Maybe this has been tried already. I'm playing devils advocate here but, for most manufacturers Time is the most valuable commodity, and like it or not most are going to go to where the most eyeballs are unless you can show that your fewer eyeballs equal sales. Also Dr Bill and Brad do spend time here and while there isn't a desperate thread there was some info on this in the AES thread, and picks of Tony and Dr Bill not trying to kill each other! The thing is if you give ads away for free people think itt should be free! Ad sales makes used car sales seam like a clean cut upright endevour. Which is only made worse by the fact that showing the ad on your site, paper , mag , car, lead to sales. I hear you and I value the devil's advocate approach. But my overall point is to try and get specific company involvement in a thread when a new product comes out. As for their time being a "valuable commodity," today I'm heading down to NYC to Alto Music to hear a rep from Apogee talk up all the features of the new Ensemble. The NY Alto room is a small space so I doubt if there'd be more than 15 people fit in there, yet an Apogee rep is basically taking an afternoon to pitch the product. So I'm not sure that I buy the premise that RGO has too small an audience for companies to care about. |
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Post by Bob Olhsson on Nov 4, 2014 8:41:31 GMT -6
The only way I tolerate GS is very aggressive use of the ignore list.
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Post by drbill on Nov 4, 2014 11:38:18 GMT -6
My ad pricing is extremely reasonable. That's great. But like I said, I don't WORK for LTL, and I've got nothing to do with advertising. This product was just my idea and I helped develop and design it with Brad. |
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Post by drbill on Nov 4, 2014 11:42:20 GMT -6
Dr Bill Bring it on ! Tell us everything there is to tell about the SB, though the Coors light inspired name insults my beer taste ( kidddding). As far as hand pain , yeah it sucks , but welcome to my world ! Though If you need the name of a great hand surgeon I have a couple. We have not returned your offers of ransome for Tony. This is not because of some political principal but because we give it another week and we know you will be offering us free Silver bullets to take him back! Ha!!!! Well....maybe my life is headed downhill then, because SBullets won't be ready for a few months. heh heh The name was inspired by the look of the unit, and by the wikipedia idiomatic use of the term which well suits what we were doing. But I don't want to pollute this thread. Start another one and I"ll get you what you want to know there.... bp |
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Post by tonycamphd on Nov 4, 2014 12:09:27 GMT -6
Help me...
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Post by jcoutu1 on Nov 4, 2014 12:13:47 GMT -6
I like the sub forums the way they are. I think techniques and gear talk sort of go hand in hand in the pro audio forum. No need for a separate techniques forum IMO. I can't imagine someone being upset about techniques being discussed here.
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Post by tonycamphd on Nov 4, 2014 12:19:57 GMT -6
It'd be cool to have some sort of "Red Alert" sticky notifier at the top of every sub forum page for linking things deemed a must see! (Like CAPI's hypothetical compressor!!!! Yeas!)
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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 4, 2014 12:47:16 GMT -6
Why don't you start a CAPI compressor thread in the main forum?
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Post by mdmitch2 on Nov 4, 2014 16:00:42 GMT -6
Just wanted to add that I first came to this forum bc of the CAPI order confirmation emails linking here. Might partly account for all the diy love here!
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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 4, 2014 16:21:27 GMT -6
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Post by jsteiger on Nov 4, 2014 16:23:36 GMT -6
Right on Johnkenn, for the greater good! |
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Post by levon on Nov 5, 2014 0:27:51 GMT -6
I like the sub forums the way they are. I think techniques and gear talk sort of go hand in hand in the pro audio forum. No need for a separate techniques forum IMO. I can't imagine someone being upset about techniques being discussed here. Not upset, but it would make it easier to find related topics... But I basically agree that there should be only a limited amount of subfora, GS is insane, even the subforum has its subforum. Stupid. |
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Post by lpedrum on Nov 5, 2014 8:29:42 GMT -6
Also Dr Bill and Brad do spend time here and while there isn't a desperate thread there was some info on this in the AES thread, and picks of Tony and Dr Bill not trying to kill each other!lpedrum - IMO the Silver Bullet thread on GS has been extremely enlightening, intelligent and civil. Several have commented to me directly about that. If you need more info, give it a shot. There's a lot over there. As for a RGO thread on the Silver Bullet discussing it, I'd be happy to oblige, but honestly, it didn't seem there was much interest here. Since I'm not a manufacturer - only teaming up with Brad on this project - I don't know the rules, regs and such. If someone else wants to start a thread on the SB, I'll be happy to chime in if my hands can hold out. Sorry to hear about your hand issues Bill--it's something a lot of musicians deal with. You're right that the Silver Bullet thread on GS was civil and informative. I think that's in part due to the fact that Louder Than Liftoff is a new company with no disgruntled customers waiting to take revenge online. The thread on Apogee's new Ensemble was another story. Fortunately Apogee took the high ground amongst all the misinformation and name calling. I was just surprised that the Silver Bullet didn't get much notice on RGO or that LTL didn't make an attempt to stir interest. But Brad runs a small company and there are only so many hours in a day. I do think the Silver Bullet will get a lot of attention here once its actually released--it's EXACTLY the kind of thing that many RGO members are interested in. By the way, I was able to compare the Symphony I/O with the new Ensemble yesterday in NYC. If anyone's interested I'd be happy to share my thoughts. |
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Post by jcoutu1 on Nov 5, 2014 8:46:59 GMT -6
By the way, I was able to compare the Symphony I/O with the new Ensemble yesterday in NYC. If anyone's interested I'd be happy to share my thoughts. Spill it! |
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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 5, 2014 9:41:38 GMT -6
Yeah - start a thread on it!
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Post by drbill on Nov 5, 2014 10:06:34 GMT -6
Start a thread on both!
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Post by ephi82 on Nov 5, 2014 13:03:26 GMT -6
Well Ephi, any conversation or subject you want to bring up is welcome. I'm not sure I understand how we can complain that the board is "dominated" by a subject when anyone is free to post whatever they want. As far as separating "pro" from "non-pro" - I just think that's elitist. If you are a pro and too cool to post, then to hell with you. I'm not begging anyone to post here. Thats the total antithesis to this board. I tried to take pains to say I didnt object to a lot of the posts focused on mic building. It wasnt a complaint. I really like this place! |
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Post by ephi82 on Nov 5, 2014 13:06:08 GMT -6
To many boxes means somebody has to spend their time deciding what goes in what box, people are eay offended when someone else decides they put their question in the wrong box. If I were a newbie I would be less fearful here than at the purple place. The thought that this place is dominated by mic modders is an overstatemen, they are vocal but they are also trying to save you a bunch of money! If you fall for the hype you could spend a lot of money on a repackaged generic made in China mic. Learning the basics of soldering and circuitry will save you time and money in the long run and is a basic skill I expect from any body who calls themselves an RE! See my previous reply. The topic of mic building has been very popular here. I dont think its bad, I simply suggested encouraging other topics. As an open forum, I agree that I have the "power" to do that! |
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