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Post by drsax on Mar 14, 2017 21:20:28 GMT -6
Took the plunge just got a pair of these and boy am I glad I did. Easily the most flexible compressor I've ever used. Wow!!! Tried it so far on Kick, Snare, Bass, sax, and in stereo on the mixbuss and drum buss and these things kill!!!! Wow. Smash the drums to smithereens, then use the parallel knob to blend it in... sick!!!! Clean... yup, no problem... wanna distort? Sure... crushed and distorted in a very musical way. And the kicker... I was able to dial in some very nice mix buss compression. I wasn't expecting that! Very pleased with these so far! World of possibilities here and I'm just getting started  I see you like the Kush audio sound and workflow đ What do you find the tweaker the most important on... Better yet, since you don't have eight pairs to use for all the uses you described above which duty do you think the tweaker will end up fulfilling for you? The product video for these is outstanding and has always peaked my interest. Well all Kush audio videos are awesome to me. How would you recall those for a mix ( if needed ) are they stepped or switched? Does the meter distract you or confuse you in anyway and how long did it take you to adapt to it? Sorry for all the questions, I just haven't seen many people give feedback regarding them. I know they are relatively new however most who do Use them really like them whereas some like the eq's and some don't . Idk I was intrigued by all the different compressors it could emulate, have you been able to use these emulation settings with success? If so, how does the tweaker compare to the actual comps it's emulating? tapeop.com/reviews/gear/107/tweaker-side-chain-shaping-compressor/Lots of good write ups in the usual suspects for the tweaker comp! Hey Chase - I just got these in... so I have not yet discovered the full depth of this pair of tweakers. I will say this... I have a bunch of great comps (Retro STA Level, Atomic Squeezebox, Vac-Rac TSL3, ADL1500, Spectrsonics 610, Daking FET II pair, AML 54f50, BAC500, Buzz Essence, 1176 Clone and a few others. They each do one thing well. Maybe a couple things. The Dakings and Atomic Squeezebox are more flexible.... but.... these tweakers go SO many different directions and shine at clean and dirty compression. They excelled at every source I threw at them. And I could get most everything to shape in several different ways. Recall is simple as all the pots are stepped/detented. I think most cats haven't given this thing a true run through, or haven't taken time to understand what it does before using it. I spent time before I received mine studying what it does, and I was totally in my element with it today. I have mixed a lot of successful commercial music and in the past have found myself falling into familiar patterns in using my gear - and depending too much on meters. With these I'm just hearing where I like the sound... so I embrace not having traditional meters. But the trimetering does make sense to me... I dig it. I was able to bend drum sounds with this in ways I've never been able to with a compressor. I have a hybrid setup and so all Outboard gets printed back into my session.... so I will use these on as many tracks as needed on each mix... don't know if that helps you at all, but hopefully it does. I am stoked about these things. My big issue with most VCA comps I've used or looked at is that they are one trick ponies. This thing is the opposite. It's deep and versatile. Not for beginners... but I see it as a total breakthrough in analog gear. If someone understands compression then they can do a ton of things to most any source with the tweakers. Sound shaping, transient control, and dynamic shaping. These things are "shapers" of the highest order. Smooth, bite, growl, clean, vibe, distortion, dirt, and so much more. |
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Post by drsax on Mar 15, 2017 11:53:44 GMT -6
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Post by jcoutu1 on Mar 15, 2017 12:01:59 GMT -6
Well that doesn't suck. Sounding great. |
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Post by drsax on Mar 15, 2017 12:10:11 GMT -6
Well that doesn't suck. Sounding great. Thnx jcoutu1 |
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Post by ChaseUTB on Mar 15, 2017 13:24:24 GMT -6
drsax well that is an impressive compression lineup I must say đ Man that was an awesome in depth answer plus the uploaded file says a lot to what this beast can do! I agree that when I first saw the product vid some of the features went over my head, but when I went back and watched the product vid yesterday it was a lot easier to understand for some reason. I am like you and like to know what I am buying so research and workflow panning before purchase is a must for me! Again, I'm glad you are happy with them and I look forward to hearing more about how you grow with the tweakers! Thanks again for the detailed response, exactly the type of experience based feedback I was asking for. I can read tape op all day for opinion and reviews. Hearing real world user feedback is always best IMO. I know honeymoon periods can skew things a bit however with a tool with that many features It seems like you would just keep finding more uses for the tweakers... What a cool comp đ¤¤
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Post by drsax on Mar 15, 2017 13:43:24 GMT -6
drsax well that is an impressive compression lineup I must say đ Man that was an awesome in depth answer plus the uploaded file says a lot to what this beast can do! I agree that when I first saw the product vid some of the features went over my head, but when I went back and watched the product vid yesterday it was a lot easier to understand for some reason. I am like you and like to know what I am buying so research and workflow panning before purchase is a must for me! Again, I'm glad you are happy with them and I look forward to hearing more about how you grow with the tweakers! Thanks again for the detailed response, exactly the type of experience based feedback I was asking for. I can read tape op all day for opinion and reviews. Hearing real world user feedback is always best IMO. I know honeymoon periods can skew things a bit however with a tool with that many features It seems like you would just keep finding more uses for the tweakers... What a cool comp 𤤠Glad it was helpful ChaseUTB - I was a bit curious myself how these would feel. Yeah - there's always a honeymoon period. I was pretty specific as to what gap I wanted to fill in my compressor collection. I wanted a VCA but didn't want a one trick pony. I also always thought of a pair of distressors which I've used before - but I found these even more versatile and flexible. |
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Post by plinker on May 17, 2021 12:13:41 GMT -6
Any love for this bad boy on vox or acoustic instruments?
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Post by jacobamerritt on Nov 28, 2022 23:43:19 GMT -6
Just grabbed a pair of the Tweezers on Cyber Week sale at $450 a piece. Also 4 of the the Electra 500s.
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Post by drbill on Dec 5, 2022 20:29:13 GMT -6
I got a pair of Tweezers too. Looking forward to kicking the tires on those....
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Post by hoot on Dec 6, 2022 5:07:16 GMT -6
I got a pair of Tweezers too. Looking forward to kicking the tires on those.... Please let us know!! |
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Post by thehightenor on Dec 7, 2022 15:22:37 GMT -6
Definitely not aimed at me, I'm a toob guy, but I applaud Kush for being innovative (to a degree) and not just cloning old gear.
I know he mentions "classic comps" in the video but that's more because they're forced to in todays obsession with the "old stuff"
Good on 'em - at least they're not exactly copying someone else's design - there's so little innovation these days.
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Post by drsax on Dec 8, 2022 9:57:54 GMT -6
Im a tube guy as well but I gotta say, my Tweakers and Elektras hit the sweet spot SO often. I know they are not vintage tube pieces, but they have the vibe of well loved classics to my ear
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2022 10:25:56 GMT -6
Definitely not aimed at me, I'm a toob guy, but I applaud Kush for being innovative (to a degree) and not just cloning old gear. I know he mentions "classic comps" in the video but that's more because they're forced to in todays obsession with the "old stuff" Good on 'em - at least they're not exactly copying someone else's design - there's so little innovation these days. Yep it's poser gear for poser musicians in a poser market that can't tell the difference. They just want to be cool. It's funny that most of the better artists I've worked with couldn't care less about what was used on the record as long as their sound was still intact and it sounded good. And now we have big corporate plugin developers marketing emulations as used by "the producers of XYZ" that will turn off the people opposed to corporate rock and rap. Seeing that on the UADx and Plugin Alliance pages makes me not want to pay them a dime. |
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Post by jeremygillespie on Dec 8, 2022 11:51:58 GMT -6
Definitely not aimed at me, I'm a toob guy, but I applaud Kush for being innovative (to a degree) and not just cloning old gear. I know he mentions "classic comps" in the video but that's more because they're forced to in todays obsession with the "old stuff" Good on 'em - at least they're not exactly copying someone else's design - there's so little innovation these days. Yep it's poser gear for poser musicians in a poser market that can't tell the difference. They just want to be cool. It's funny that most of the better artists I've worked with couldn't care less about what was used on the record as long as their sound was still intact and it sounded good. And now we have big corporate plugin developers marketing emulations as used by "the producers of XYZ" that will turn off the people opposed to corporate rock and rap. Seeing that on the UADx and Plugin Alliance pages makes me not want to pay them a dime. Iâm not so sure we need to be quite that cynical about it though right? Itâs possible for someone to just be excited to try a plug-in of something theyâd never be able to afford. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2022 13:51:44 GMT -6
Yep it's poser gear for poser musicians in a poser market that can't tell the difference. They just want to be cool. It's funny that most of the better artists I've worked with couldn't care less about what was used on the record as long as their sound was still intact and it sounded good. And now we have big corporate plugin developers marketing emulations as used by "the producers of XYZ" that will turn off the people opposed to corporate rock and rap. Seeing that on the UADx and Plugin Alliance pages makes me not want to pay them a dime. Iâm not so sure we need to be quite that cynical about it though right? Itâs possible for someone to just be excited to try a plug-in of something theyâd never be able to afford. I was that way until I demoed the emulations and played with the clones. I realized the emulations donât really work, things often sound better and the artist can even prefer it without the distortion, and the cloners are trying to mass produce outmoded technology with parts that are no longer mass produced. That still doesnât stop me from distorting things but it is just distortion. Iâm using the Fuse plugs as cranked weirdo saturators now like a 60s version of inflator and theyâre so cool doing that. Iâve used the tube ones even as guitar and bass heads and enhancers. Like I like the Sound Toys radiator as some fat thing. I could care less if itâs an altec or if the black rooster is more authentic. Itâs radiator. Same with the Puigchild, itâs a glorified distortion pedal. Or the people using CLA 76 still. As a compressor? It sucks and is one of the worst compressors of all time. As âthis thing is the sound of 2010s digital pop and awful rock?â Thatâs what it is and more people used clas than ever used any hardware at all because they were told that an 1176 and LA2A were standard on commercial vocal. This led to peak distortion (like old records but less pleasant) and very weird pumping in others. Like take an 1176 or SSL Bus. You can get stuff that does the same task but without the zip and grit. When the zip and grit are gone, you donât want to go back. Buying half a dozen clones to get the tone? Wut? Itâs like guitar gear at this point. We even have lawyer gear like there are lawyer guitars |
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Post by notneeson on Dec 8, 2022 14:46:42 GMT -6
Man, I donât know. In my world the biggest posers are hyped on tape machines, not plugins.
But, said posers are one of my most popular (in an underground way) clients ever. Maybe theyâre geniuses? (Theyâre not đ).
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2022 15:11:39 GMT -6
Man, I donât know. In my world the biggest posers are hyped on tape machines, not plugins. But, said posers are one of my most popular (in an underground way) clients ever. Maybe theyâre geniuses? (Theyâre not đ). Those 2000 dollar cassette decks man and complaints about the sound quality and their tone afterwards when they tracked it hot through compression. Then you send them the raws back to prove it sounded like that when you got it. I know a band who bought a 4 track and a 3 unit FMR rack and of course one gets more use. I think all this affordable stuff is great if it works and is above like warm audio and behringer build quality and sound. I love the Art Dual Limiter and the RNC even if it's a bit too tweaky. Working stuff out of old live racks is whoa |
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Post by jacobamerritt on Dec 8, 2022 16:47:53 GMT -6
Those 2000 dollar cassette decks man and complaints about the sound quality and their tone afterwards when they tracked it hot through compression. Then you send them the raws back to prove it sounded like that when you got it. I know a band who bought a 4 track and a 3 unit FMR rack and of course one gets more use. I think all this affordable stuff is great if it works and is above like warm audio and behringer build quality and sound. I love the Art Dual Limiter and the RNC even if it's a bit too tweaky. Working stuff out of old live racks is whoa Cool. So back to the Tweaker Compressor ...  |
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Post by drsax on Dec 8, 2022 18:43:53 GMT -6
Those 2000 dollar cassette decks man and complaints about the sound quality and their tone afterwards when they tracked it hot through compression. Then you send them the raws back to prove it sounded like that when you got it. I know a band who bought a 4 track and a 3 unit FMR rack and of course one gets more use. I think all this affordable stuff is great if it works and is above like warm audio and behringer build quality and sound. I love the Art Dual Limiter and the RNC even if it's a bit too tweaky. Working stuff out of old live racks is whoa  Cool. So back to the Tweaker Compressor ... yes please⌠and I donât know about any plug-in versions, my tweakers are analog, and full of goodness |
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Post by drbill on Dec 8, 2022 20:43:44 GMT -6
Forget the tweakers. Let's talk tweezers. I should have mine tomorrow. |
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Post by jacobamerritt on Dec 8, 2022 23:41:20 GMT -6
Just racked my Tweezers up for a session this weekend. Client got stuck in a snow storm and postponed. UGH!
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Post by drbill on Dec 9, 2022 21:56:58 GMT -6
First impressions of the Tweezers are very favorable. This is probably not a "set and forget" style compressor for me. It's got a VERY wide pallet of tones, and you can get into deep water quickly. Tweezer is a great name for this comp. You can mangle to your hearts content, and then pull back the blend/mix for a nice textural vibe. The metering is cool!
The overall workflow feels very comfortable although as mentioned - there is a lot of depth.
My only con's - I wish the nomenclature was larger. Impossible to see from 3' away without leaning over - AND putting on glasses. I suppose eventually I'll be going by feel rather than sight. Maybe the younger folks can read it but it's SMALL!!!!!!
Quite happy with these. They will definitely be keepers, but it will be awhile before I figure out their sweet spot in my stable of compressor love....50+ channels and counting.... So much compression, so few channels to compress.... <sigh>. Haha! Tweez on!
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Post by MJ on Dec 21, 2022 9:40:43 GMT -6
Hi All!
Just wondering people's opinions on these now? Considering a Tweezer myself.
I like the idea of a Tweaker but have a spare slot in the 500 rack and the price of the Tweezer is more palatable, thanks.
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Post by jacobamerritt on Dec 22, 2022 1:39:47 GMT -6
Hi All! Just wondering people's opinions on these now? Considering a Tweezer myself. I like the idea of a Tweaker but have a spare slot in the 500 rack and the price of the Tweezer is more palatable, thanks. Get one. Theyâre awesome. |
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Post by Darren Boling on Dec 24, 2022 20:35:59 GMT -6
Just grabbed a pair of the Tweezers on Cyber Week sale at $450 a piece. Also 4 of the the Electra 500s. I had no idea about the Tweezers, looks awesome. I loved the UBK Fatso back in the day |
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