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Post by LesC on Oct 14, 2014 13:43:09 GMT -6
This seems quite interesting to me:  www.thehouseofkush.comI've been playing with the idea of getting a compressor for tracking vocals, and a 2-buss compressor. With the flexibility of these things, two of these might be just what I'm looking for. Hooking them up to a patchbay, I'm thinking to put them in series for tracking, one emulating an 1176-type compressor and the other emulating an optical-type compressor using Gregory Scott's presets. Then during mixing, use them in linked stereo on the 2-buss, emulating something like an API 2500. If it does these emulations well (and I mean sound good with the appropriate characteristics, not nulling with the emulated hardware to 87 decimal places), these might be a great buy at around $1500 apiece. |
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Post by geoff738 on Oct 14, 2014 15:44:04 GMT -6
I'm definitely interested too. But do I need another Swiss army knife comp?
If this lives up to the hype, maybe I do.
Love the metering. Why didn't I think of that?
Cheers,
Geoff
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Post by Johnkenn on Oct 14, 2014 16:44:58 GMT -6
Immediate WANT...Price?
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Post by geoff738 on Oct 14, 2014 18:37:02 GMT -6
I think it was @ $1500 or so. There's a thread on it over at the other site. Cheers, Geoff |
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Post by wiz on Oct 14, 2014 18:40:08 GMT -6
I saw it listed I think at sound on sound as RRP 1495 so seems about that.. cool if it is.
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Post by swurveman on Oct 15, 2014 9:03:08 GMT -6
Kush is a very good marketing company. I bought a Clariphonic based on the same kind of marketing glitz, but found it to be much less functional than promised. I was also turned off by how much he was on the purple site talking about how much better hardware was than plugins, then released a plugin with the "it'll get you 90% there" idea.
I think it is folly to think you're going to get both an LA-2A and a API 2500 sound from this compressor, just as you won't get it from two Distressors. That being said, I'd get a Distressor or two before I'd buy this. I never felt Derr over hyped his products and have been pleased with the two I have for their functionality in situations when I can't use my LA-2A or 1176. I can see how it appeals to people to think they're going to get so much in one box, but if it's too good to be true it probably is.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Oct 15, 2014 10:08:03 GMT -6
Kush is a very good marketing company. I bought a Clariphonic based on the same kind of marketing glitz, but found it to be much less functional than promised. I was also turned off by how much he was on the purple site talking about how much better hardware was than plugins, then released a plugin with the "it'll get you 90% there" idea. I think it is folly to think you're going to get both an LA-2A and a API 2500 sound from this compressor, just as you won't get it from two Distressors. That being said, I'd get a Distressor or two before I'd buy this. I never felt Derr over hyped his products and have been pleased with the two I have for their functionality in situations when I can't use my LA-2A or 1176. I can see how it appeals to people to think they're going to get so much in one box, but if it's too good to be true it probably is. I haven't used the Kush stuff, but can definitely see where you're coming from with this. There is a ton of hype and strong marketing with the Kush products and his followers are rabid, much in the way Slates are. The Clariphonic has been very appealing to me, but I've held off thus far thinking that it's a bit too much of a one trick pony for me. They also seem to come up fairly regularly on the used market. I also agree that lot of the hype from the Distressor is more from them just being in every studio and less from the man himself. |
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Post by mrholmes on Oct 15, 2014 14:45:47 GMT -6
Kush is a very good marketing company. I bought a Clariphonic based on the same kind of marketing glitz, but found it to be much less functional than promised. I was also turned off by how much he was on the purple site talking about how much better hardware was than plugins, then released a plugin with the "it'll get you 90% there" idea. I think it is folly to think you're going to get both an LA-2A and a API 2500 sound from this compressor, just as you won't get it from two Distressors. That being said, I'd get a Distressor or two before I'd buy this. I never felt Derr over hyped his products and have been pleased with the two I have for their functionality in situations when I can't use my LA-2A or 1176. I can see how it appeals to people to think they're going to get so much in one box, but if it's too good to be true it probably is. One problem of the new century is overhype in marketing. Some adverts are not near absurd they are absurd. Special US companies do not have limit in claiming true lies, or creating sentences which are absurd/stupid. Some folks will remember taht I proofed UAD wrong a few times on GS. But mhhh. Today kids believe everything unproved, thats how they make billions. |
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Post by geoff738 on Oct 25, 2014 15:49:49 GMT -6
Kush is a very good marketing company. I bought a Clariphonic based on the same kind of marketing glitz, but found it to be much less functional than promised. I was also turned off by how much he was on the purple site talking about how much better hardware was than plugins, then released a plugin with the "it'll get you 90% there" idea. I think it is folly to think you're going to get both an LA-2A and a API 2500 sound from this compressor, just as you won't get it from two Distressors. That being said, I'd get a Distressor or two before I'd buy this. I never felt Derr over hyped his products and have been pleased with the two I have for their functionality in situations when I can't use my LA-2A or 1176. I can see how it appeals to people to think they're going to get so much in one box, but if it's too good to be true it probably is. Well, not sure if I qualify as a fanboy - I've never used the hardware - but I do think Kush's success comes from more than just marketing. I have the plugs - like the Clariphonic more than the comp one. Yeah, he does get a little bit, uh, enthusiastic about his products, but I think the vids are a decent introduction to what his stuff can do. As for the Tweaker? I'll be interested in hearing how it sounds/ emulates what he claims it emulates. I'm dubious that it will emulate other comps as closely as he claims, but the proof will be in the listening. And, do I need another kinda can do similar things to other comps, but not exactly and it's really more of its own thing (Trakker)? Even so, I'm cautiously optimistic. We'll see. Cheers, Geoff |
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Post by kevinnyc on Oct 26, 2014 6:11:15 GMT -6
I've never felt a negative "overhyped" vibe from Kush. Rather, I quite appreciate the innovations in approach and implementation toward the tools we use to be CREATIVE.
That said, I do not yet own any Kush gear.....though an Electra or two will be in my rack at some point.
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Post by RicFoxx on Oct 26, 2014 6:36:46 GMT -6
I owned the Clariphonic and it did have a sweet Top on it but I sold it ultimately because I wanted it to do more for the money. Great sounding unit though.
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Post by henge on Oct 26, 2014 11:57:34 GMT -6
I have a ubk fatso ( just used it on some harsh and anemic overheads ) and it's a great sounding piece that does a lot of stuff. It's a "soft" sounding comp imo. I'm going to try the Tweaker to see if it's more aggressive, although my wa76's are plenty aggressive!! Greg does have a great ear for compression so I'll be interested to see what he's come up with. Hype or no hype, if it's a great comp then it is what it is.
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Post by Randge on Nov 1, 2014 15:58:34 GMT -6
Any word on when these will be out and available to hear in person?
R
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Post by geoff738 on Nov 2, 2014 13:53:50 GMT -6
I think they were aiming to get them out by the end of the year.
Cheers,
Geoff
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Post by Randge on Nov 2, 2014 17:16:24 GMT -6
Thanks, Geoff!
R
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Post by Johnkenn on Nov 2, 2014 17:32:09 GMT -6
Yeah - its definitely a slick marketing strategy...but you're damned if you do damned if you don't. Never used anything Kush, but I really like the designs and the thought process behind his products. I was blown away by the drum video using the stereo electras. Really cool.
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Post by Randge on Nov 3, 2014 7:11:27 GMT -6
I own a pair of Electra's and the Clariphonic 19". They build great stuff. Solid products that deliver. Its hard for me to call it hype when it works as advertised.
R
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Post by Randge on Jan 21, 2015 22:19:27 GMT -6
Bumping this thread. Has anyone here picked one of these up yet?
R
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Post by jeromemason on Jan 21, 2015 22:21:33 GMT -6
Bumping this thread. Has anyone here picked one of these up yet? R Ditto.... everything he's ever put out has been awesome |
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Post by Randge on Jan 21, 2015 22:55:51 GMT -6
I love the Clariphonic and enjoy the Electras, too, although I wish they had better frequency points on them to get you into the ballpark quicker at tracking time when players are waiting on you to dial them in.
R
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Post by drsax on Mar 7, 2017 9:38:05 GMT -6
Bump... Anyone here had experience with the UBK Tweaker? I've been looking at a pair and just curious to hear user experiences
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Post by drsax on Mar 14, 2017 17:58:21 GMT -6
Took the plunge just got a pair of these and boy am I glad I did. Easily the most flexible compressor I've ever used. Wow!!! Tried it so far on Kick, Snare, Bass, sax, and in stereo on the mixbuss and drum buss and these things kill!!!! Wow. Smash the drums to smithereens, then use the parallel knob to blend it in... sick!!!! Clean... yup, no problem... wanna distort? Sure... crushed and distorted in a very musical way. And the kicker... I was able to dial in some very nice mix buss compression. I wasn't expecting that! Very pleased with these so far! World of possibilities here and I'm just getting started  |
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Post by jcoutu1 on Mar 14, 2017 18:29:55 GMT -6
Took the plunge just got a pair of these and boy am I glad I did. Easily the most flexible compressor I've ever used. Wow!!! Tried it so far on Kick, Snare, Bass, sax, and in stereo on the mixbuss and drum buss and these things kill!!!! Wow. Smash the drums to smithereens, then use the parallel knob to blend it in... sick!!!! Clean... yup, no problem... wanna distort? Sure... crushed and distorted in a very musical way. And the kicker... I was able to dial in some very nice mix buss compression. I wasn't expecting that! Very pleased with these so far! World of possibilities here and I'm just getting started Ever tried the Tonelux compressors. Exactly how I feel about those. |
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Post by drsax on Mar 14, 2017 19:41:56 GMT -6
I haven't had a chance to try the tonelux... but I've heard great things about them
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Post by ChaseUTB on Mar 14, 2017 20:32:42 GMT -6
Took the plunge just got a pair of these and boy am I glad I did. Easily the most flexible compressor I've ever used. Wow!!! Tried it so far on Kick, Snare, Bass, sax, and in stereo on the mixbuss and drum buss and these things kill!!!! Wow. Smash the drums to smithereens, then use the parallel knob to blend it in... sick!!!! Clean... yup, no problem... wanna distort? Sure... crushed and distorted in a very musical way. And the kicker... I was able to dial in some very nice mix buss compression. I wasn't expecting that! Very pleased with these so far! World of possibilities here and I'm just getting started I see you like the Kush audio sound and workflow 😀 What do you find the tweaker the most important on... Better yet, since you don't have eight pairs to use for all the uses you described above which duty do you think the tweaker will end up fulfilling for you? The product video for these is outstanding and has always peaked my interest. Well all Kush audio videos are awesome to me. How would you recall those for a mix ( if needed ) are they stepped or switched? Does the meter distract you or confuse you in anyway and how long did it take you to adapt to it? Sorry for all the questions, I just haven't seen many people give feedback regarding them. I know they are relatively new however most who do Use them really like them whereas some like the eq's and some don't . Idk I was intrigued by all the different compressors it could emulate, have you been able to use these emulation settings with success? If so, how does the tweaker compare to the actual comps it's emulating? tapeop.com/reviews/gear/107/tweaker-side-chain-shaping-compressor/Lots of good write ups in the usual suspects for the tweaker comp! |
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