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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 15, 2014 21:53:33 GMT -6
What is the old standby here? The tried and true...
The SSL G 500 kindve interests me...and what about a Fatso?
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Post by tonycamphd on Sept 15, 2014 22:28:52 GMT -6
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 15, 2014 23:18:02 GMT -6
Yeah that looks great
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Post by keymod on Sept 16, 2014 5:02:32 GMT -6
I've always been happy with my Alan Smart C2
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Post by mrholmes on Sept 16, 2014 6:39:29 GMT -6
I use the SSL Gyraf G clone at the end of an mix, just 0,5 db reduction may less, and it tightens everything a bit.
Not meant for every kind of music but for Pop Rock stuff it rules.
Its just icing on the cake no full compression.
Most often Ratio 2:1 Attack 0.2 Release Auto.
I adjust the threshold that the needle just starts to move not more.
Most often that is what the doctor called for when AB ing.
The best of it all it was not expensive bought it used.
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Post by svart on Sept 16, 2014 6:45:17 GMT -6
Right now I use a GSSL modded into as close to a G series bus compressor as possible. I couldn't imagine anything else on the 2bus for rock and roll.
My 2254/33609 is close though.
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Post by swurveman on Sept 16, 2014 10:41:50 GMT -6
I've always been happy with my Alan Smart C2 Me too. Also have a API 2500, but the Smart C2 wins. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 16, 2014 17:12:31 GMT -6
Part of me thinks I should just stick to the ole software master compressor options...I don't have any experience with really expensive stereo compressors. But - if it's anything like the difference between using a Sta-Level-like plug and the real thing, I could only imagine it would be a big step up. I'll say this - I really don't always use compression on the master that often - but I've liked the Slate Red for that. Maybe I should just leave well-enough alone.
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Post by RicFoxx on Sept 16, 2014 17:20:32 GMT -6
This...Rupert Neve Designs Portico II Master Buss Processor
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Post by jcoutu1 on Sept 16, 2014 17:35:45 GMT -6
Part of me thinks I should just stick to the ole software master compressor options...I don't have any experience with really expensive stereo compressors. But - if it's anything like the difference between using a Sta-Level-like plug and the real thing, I could only imagine it would be a big step up. I'll say this - I really don't always use compression on the master that often - but I've liked the Slate Red for that. Maybe I should just leave well-enough alone. I know this is Slate posting, so you have to take with a grain of salt, but these sound pretty close to my ears. I haven't gotten the up on the monitors yet, but they almost null. Makes me rethink hardware a bit. www.gearslutz.com/board/10406655-post11.html |
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Post by tonycamphd on Sept 16, 2014 18:48:46 GMT -6
horribly over compressed content for comparison does nothing for me.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2014 21:13:18 GMT -6
I love the way the VBC Red sounds. even with just 1db, it is really sweet. Makes me want a real one.
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Post by Johnkenn on Sept 16, 2014 22:40:59 GMT -6
I guess it's the eternal "does it make enough difference" question...or is it worth the extra $2-5k. Considering it wouldn't be lopping off massive amounts, I'm not sure I wanna justify that much though.
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Post by svart on Sept 17, 2014 7:00:27 GMT -6
Typical 2bus compression is around 2-4dB. I'd say most of the time it's for the effect rather than level control.
And many years ago I was enamored with the idea of plugins.. until I actually used the hardware they emulate..
Then it was..
Find the plug-in folder.. CTRL+A... Delete.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2014 7:36:32 GMT -6
I guess it's the eternal "does it make enough difference" question...or is it worth the extra $2-5k. Considering it wouldn't be lopping off massive amounts, I'm not sure I wanna justify that much though. I think so. My Daking on the 2buss does things no plugs that I have, have done. Even my lowly 7802 Opto has done more than plugins have done for me. The Warm 1176 is in the same boat. I hear a difference and with the VCC/VBC/VTM, I feel it is greatly enhanced. My eventual goal is a true hybrid with summing, outboard plugged into it and a hardware 2buss set. Not everyone loves a Daking comp but I am confident that others will provide that additional edge in depth and quality. |
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Post by mrholmes on Sept 18, 2014 5:47:05 GMT -6
Part of me thinks I should just stick to the ole software master compressor options...I don't have any experience with really expensive stereo compressors. But - if it's anything like the difference between using a Sta-Level-like plug and the real thing, I could only imagine it would be a big step up. I'll say this - I really don't always use compression on the master that often - but I've liked the Slate Red for that. Maybe I should just leave well-enough alone. Tada I say it again. Why people always think they need the best of the best to get a nice sounding result. I just for fun compared my Gyraf - G SSL with Turbo-Board to the good old Behringer MDX 1000 which uses similar Op-Amps. And to my surprise the Behringer was much more transparent, invisible as the SSL. Both sounded good. The MDX 1000, if you have one that does not blow up, is a good example where Behringer did something right All the used ones I bought did not blowed up and the caps where fine. But the good thing is you can get the MDX 1000 for 10$ or less at e-bay. As far as I know its an DBX 160 clone. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2014 18:46:33 GMT -6
for me, it is mostly the way they grab. Software tends to not grab or grab too hard. Hardware seems more tweakable. The exception to this for me is the Softube CL1B and the Slate VBC Bunch, specifically the Red. I love these two.
Also, when I don't have 2Buss compression, I never seem to get the gel I like. It takes a good 3-5db with the Daking to get that gel an punch but the Red only requires 1db. I don't know how you get it without.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2014 13:26:43 GMT -6
regular John Sick Sick Sick when I was OTB. VBC is great, still find myself going back to the Waves SSL for a lot of stuff though.
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Post by jcoutu1 on Sept 24, 2014 13:35:29 GMT -6
RJR Sick Sick Sick followed by the Thermionic Culture Phoenix Mastering Plus.  |
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Post by lpedrum on Sept 25, 2014 9:36:21 GMT -6
I'll be buying a buss compressor later this year. Just when I decided it'd be the Serpent 500 series I hear about the Sick Sick Sick on this thread. Now I wonder what's behind door number three!
Any opinions on the Serpent and the Sick head to head? I know I can't loose either way.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2014 21:28:07 GMT -6
I'll be buying a buss compressor later this year. Just when I decided it'd be the Serpent 500 series I hear about the Sick Sick Sick on this thread. Now I wonder what's behind door number three! Any opinions on the Serpent and the Sick head to head? I know I can't loose either way. The Sick Sick Sick is wide. It doesn't do the mix compacting thing like the SSL does. I kinda missed that about the SSL which is why I went back to it. |
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Post by Guitar on Oct 8, 2014 20:38:28 GMT -6
I'm pretty sold on the SSL type in general. Plugins, so far, but I'll be building a Serpent SB4000 next year. My dream, only a dream of a good Fairchild 670 clone...
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Post by dandeurloo on Oct 9, 2014 17:48:49 GMT -6
The SB4001 is extremely hard to beat. It really is a no brainer.
The other buss comps I really like are the Drip 670 (one of the best comps I have ever heard in my life and now wish I owned one), my custom Dual LA 2A that I built just for buss work. I also have a one of a kind PWM compressor that is a API 2500 killer. That comp is really great for Rock and Roll. It has such vibe and the way it handles a snare in the mix is really great. I hope the manufacturer does release it.
Now I just need to build a Drip 670!
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Post by ericn on Oct 9, 2014 21:26:23 GMT -6
The SB4001 is extremely hard to beat. It really is a no brainer. The other buss comps I really like are the Drip 670 (one of the best comps I have ever heard in my life and now wish I owned one), my custom Dual LA 2A that I built just for buss work. I also have a one of a kind PWM compressor that is a API 2500 killer. That comp is really great for Rock and Roll. It has such vibe and the way it handles a snare in the mix is really great. I hope the manufacturer does release it. Now I just need to build a Drip 670! But Dan at least you can get a great deal on the case for the Drip! |
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Post by tonycamphd on Oct 9, 2014 21:42:14 GMT -6
The SB4001 is extremely hard to beat. It really is a no brainer. The other buss comps I really like are the Drip 670 (one of the best comps I have ever heard in my life and now wish I owned one), my custom Dual LA 2A that I built just for buss work. I also have a one of a kind PWM compressor that is a API 2500 killer. That comp is really great for Rock and Roll. It has such vibe and the way it handles a snare in the mix is really great. I hope the manufacturer does release it. Now I just need to build a Drip 670! But Dan at least you can get a great deal on the case for the Drip! no doubt, it's gotta drop the no holds barred build from $7,000 to $6,700... 8) |
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