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Post by tonycamphd on Aug 25, 2014 19:54:32 GMT -6
Does he still work out of Blackbird? Is he available for hire by anyone other than big name acts? Very curious of this, he's responsible for some of my favorite albums ever, the sound of the Earth,wind & Fire recordings just blow me away, especially bass and drums!
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Post by Bob Olhsson on Aug 25, 2014 20:27:21 GMT -6
George is currently Adjunct Professor of Recording Arts and Sciences at McGill University in Montreal, Quebec, Canada.
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Post by gouge on Aug 25, 2014 21:27:40 GMT -6
I thought George moved to Canada because he was tired of the backlash from the blackbird design.
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Post by tonycamphd on Aug 25, 2014 21:33:38 GMT -6
I thought George moved to Canada because he was tired of the backlash from the blackbird design. Backlash? splain to me! 8)
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Post by gouge on Aug 26, 2014 1:31:27 GMT -6
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Post by odyssey76 on Aug 26, 2014 3:26:59 GMT -6
George is currently Adjunct Professor of Recording Arts and Sciences at McGill University in Montreal, Quebec, Canada. Whoa, maybe i should go back to school. Montreal's only 3 hours from here. That's like signing up for an economics class with Warren Buffett as professor.
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Post by henge on Aug 26, 2014 6:04:38 GMT -6
Is it my imagination about that interview? Either someone can't write ( cue as opposed to Q!!) or someone don't speak goooood....
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Post by swurveman on Aug 26, 2014 6:16:02 GMT -6
I'd love to try his 8200 EQ. I have yet to find a plugin EQ that can very narrowly notch out bothersome frequencies completely.
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Post by odyssey76 on Aug 26, 2014 8:46:00 GMT -6
I'd love to try his 8200 EQ. I have yet to find a plugin EQ that can very narrowly notch out bothersome frequencies completely. I have this same dilemma. I've had the pleasure of using the GML8200 and I almost wish I hadn't. That EQ is so precise and magical. It'll get rid of any negative frequencies without touching the rest of your audio. It's like taking a fine eraser and making your errant pencil mark vanish without a trace. I've been looking for a software EQ for a long time that can do this same task (well close anyway) but I haven't found one that is even in the same galaxy let alone ballpark. If anyone has recommendations please speak up!
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Post by tonycamphd on Aug 26, 2014 9:13:45 GMT -6
I'd love to try his 8200 EQ. I have yet to find a plugin EQ that can very narrowly notch out bothersome frequencies completely. I have this same dilemma. I've had the pleasure of using the GML8200 and I almost wish I hadn't. That EQ is so precise and magical. It'll get rid of any negative frequencies without touching the rest of your audio. It's like taking a fine eraser and making your errant pencil mark vanish without a trace. I've been looking for a software EQ for a long time that can do this same task (well close anyway) but I haven't found one that is even in the same galaxy let alone ballpark. If anyone has recommendations please speak up! Have u tried fabfilters proQ yet?(new version arrives Thursday), I've been really liking it here, linear phase mode
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Post by odyssey76 on Aug 26, 2014 9:28:20 GMT -6
I have this same dilemma. I've had the pleasure of using the GML8200 and I almost wish I hadn't. That EQ is so precise and magical. It'll get rid of any negative frequencies without touching the rest of your audio. It's like taking a fine eraser and making your errant pencil mark vanish without a trace. I've been looking for a software EQ for a long time that can do this same task (well close anyway) but I haven't found one that is even in the same galaxy let alone ballpark. If anyone has recommendations please speak up! Have u tried fabfilters proQ yet?(new version arrives Thursday), I've been really liking it here, linear phase mode Thanks Tony, yeah I demoed Fabfilter and I liked it but it still can't do the "great disappearing act" thing that the 8200 does. I'm speaking strictly subtractive EQ here. The Fabfilter was nice in boosting because it's clean but smooth. Leaves your audio uncolored. I found that the closest plug EQ to the 8200 is IK's 432 Mastering EQ. It'll do precise pretty well but even this one doesn't rival the 8200. I haven't come close to trying them all - there's far too many. I'm working on mic positioning these days...
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Post by Bob Olhsson on Aug 26, 2014 10:42:24 GMT -6
There are George's own MDW and the Sonnox GML.
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Post by Bob Olhsson on Aug 26, 2014 10:55:05 GMT -6
If nothing else, George's studio is living proof that most control womb design concepts are B.S.. I laughed myself silly the first time I listened in there because I'd long suspected this to be the case, especially "LEDE." Flat reflected response, especially early reflections is the key. Bookshelves are some of the best acoustical treatment there is.
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Post by tonycamphd on Aug 26, 2014 11:19:06 GMT -6
Is it my imagination about that interview? Either someone can't write ( cue as opposed to Q!!) or someone don't speak goooood.... here's that interview on video, the interviewer is from...France? Listen to 12:00 in, he doesn't like Nashvegas at all!
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Post by ericn on Aug 26, 2014 11:23:35 GMT -6
If nothing else, George's studio is living proof that most control womb design concepts are B.S.. I laughed myself silly the first time I listened in there because I'd long suspected this to be the case, especially "LEDE." Flat reflected response, especially early reflections is the key. Bookshelves are some of the best acoustical treatment there is. I always thought it was proof of : great theory seldom translates well in the real world !
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Post by tonycamphd on Aug 26, 2014 11:27:41 GMT -6
If nothing else, George's studio is living proof that most control womb design concepts are B.S.. I laughed myself silly the first time I listened in there because I'd long suspected this to be the case, especially "LEDE." Flat reflected response, especially early reflections is the key. Bookshelves are some of the best acoustical treatment there is. I always thought it was proof of : great theory seldom translates well in the real world ! I say his work is undeniable, and speaks for itself(and without a doubt, so does Bob O's), and he's in the position to push the envelope, that's exactly what that studio C is imo. Different strokes as they say.
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Post by ericn on Aug 26, 2014 11:36:38 GMT -6
Tony I can't argue with the great work by George, The Concept of the completely diffused, control room was thrown around for years, but nobody was rich, nuts or maybe smart enough to build it. Everybody I know who has been in their finds its a completely one of a kind experience, maybe it goes to my learn your monitor mantra, but everybody I have talked to says their work sounds nothing like it did in that room. Did you ever notice that the ceiling diffusers were multiband ? The normal full range panels are set up at different heights as LF diffusion!
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Post by Bob Olhsson on Aug 26, 2014 11:42:57 GMT -6
Omnidirectional sound from the loudspeakers can achieve the same effect provided the reflected sound is flat. You can actually walk behind the stereo image if the speakers are out in the room.
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Post by tonycamphd on Aug 26, 2014 11:44:13 GMT -6
i guess they're qrd/prd's? the depth of the blocks is crazy, they must reach way, way down, i would definitely like to walk through there one day and hear it out.
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Post by Bob Olhsson on Aug 26, 2014 12:26:53 GMT -6
I thought the material I was familiar with sounded very good although I've never mixed there.
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Post by tonycamphd on Aug 26, 2014 12:47:21 GMT -6
If nothing else, George's studio is living proof that most control womb design concepts are B.S.. I laughed myself silly the first time I listened in there because I'd long suspected this to be the case, especially "LEDE." Flat reflected response, especially early reflections is the key. Bookshelves are some of the best acoustical treatment there is. Ethan Winer is considering coming back just to respond to this statement! 8) There is definitely something to be said for a room sounding real world great. For me, when i find a cool room, it's about as exciting as finding a bunch of ca$h on the ground, even if i never record there lol
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Post by henge on Aug 26, 2014 13:57:09 GMT -6
Is it my imagination about that interview? Either someone can't write ( cue as opposed to Q!!) or someone don't speak goooood.... here's that interview on video, the interviewer is from...France? Listen to 12:00 in, he doesn't like Nashvegas at all! Ooops! my bad...
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Post by Bob Olhsson on Aug 26, 2014 14:28:55 GMT -6
There was a pizzeria on Mission Street in San Francisco I always dreamt of recording in. The overhead trellis and vines sounded incredible.
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Post by wiz on Aug 26, 2014 15:52:10 GMT -6
When I saw that video of that studio... my first reaction...
dont stumble and fall, you will be shish ke bab'd 8)
cheers
Wiz
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Post by Randge on Aug 26, 2014 20:25:57 GMT -6
I have to be a bit outspoken here. Much of the recording he did while living in Nashville, like John Cowan's previous record 'The Massenburg Sessions" were, to my ears, lifeless, sterile and not anything to be all that proud of on the recording side. After touring with Cowan for 2 and 1/2 years, I know what the guy sounds like and it ain't that. His new record that dropped today is miles closer in the right direction.
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