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Post by yotonic on Aug 23, 2014 11:39:35 GMT -6
My buddy was just banned from Gearslutz for a comment in a thread titled "Manley Ref". Tony Belmont was telling a member that the new "Imperial" mic he is testing is better than a Sony C800G. A couple of members made posts that this was a ridiculous comment. My buddy Jake was immediately banned from the site. I am so surprised Jules Standen let's Tony Belmont run wild like that in his forum. It's straight up censorship. I told my friend to join here.
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Post by yotonic on Aug 23, 2014 11:48:14 GMT -6
What's worse is Tony went back and completely removed the guys two posts so there is no history of anyone speaking up about Belmont's ridiculous behavior. Maybe Tony bought the forum from Jules I don't know. Super amateur. Jules is worried about the abuse of police power on his Facebook page yet he allows this kind of abuse on his forum. Bad.
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Post by ericn on Aug 23, 2014 12:21:48 GMT -6
Typical Tony, Because he's bumping something it must be best! Jules is afraid to piss off the advertisers, and TB is a mod and an Advertiser I would go out of my way just to get banned but somebody needs to be able to use the classifieds.
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Post by tonycamphd on Aug 23, 2014 12:30:11 GMT -6
I got banned in the midst of laughing TB out on what a !@#% he was being for incessantly bashing on the Capi VP28, a pre he happily and vapidly admitted he had never used? 8/ seriously??(i guess it cut against the GS business model?) He's such a ballzy !@%* he even came over here and trolled for a couple days before he happily vanished like the fart in the wind that he surely is.
Gearslutz taught me some valuable lessons though, the biggest one was when you find something of value, respect it(which for various reasons, i did not, and shame on me for a lot of it), and step up to protect it, if you get banned for that, it wasn't worth protecting(in this regard, i got lucky, lesson learned).
I find Realgear better in every way, the members are tops!, proven by virtue of the fact that you learn something, feel good and won't have to shower after you visit 8)
I hope your Pal shows up here!
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Post by Ward on Aug 23, 2014 12:48:34 GMT -6
I cannot find this thread. I searched and found 'Manley Red vs C800G' but that was it. I was going to ask if I disagreed with Tony or questioned him, would I get banned... and see what happens.
Can you point us to the exact thread?
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Post by yotonic on Aug 23, 2014 12:52:04 GMT -6
Dear JustJake, You have received an infraction at Gearslutz.com. Reason: Insulted Other Member(s) ------- ------- This infraction is worth 1 point(s) and may result in restricted access until it expires. Serious infractions will never expire. Original Post: <a href="http://www.gearslutz.com/board/so-much-gear-so-little-time/947914-manley-ref-c-mic-question.html#post10358030">http://www.gearslutz.com/board/so-mu...l#post10358030</a> www.gearslutz.com/board/so-much-gear-so-little-time/947914-manley-ref-c-mic-question---Quote (Originally by TonyBelmont)--- None that I would want to share publicly. But, I have done thorough testing of that mic with a C800-G on hand at times over the last 6 months. I could use them interchangeably on the same song. And, that's not something I could say about any of the other mics people talk about on here when this topic comes up. There is already significant buzz about this one. It sounds great, looks cool, and it doesn't cost $10k. Drop the manufacturer an email and they can give you more details about it. But, if you want the C800-G sound... this is the ONE to get. kfhkh ---End Quote--- This is why Gearslutz has such a bad reputation. This Moderator is telling people the new "unknown" mic he sells out of his apartment in Rhode Island is as good as a Sony C800G. WTF? Doesn't Jules have any policy he requests you follow Tony? Its one thing pushing the Aurora over original Neves and every other high end pre, but now some unknown mic called "Imperial" is as good as a Sony C800G. Spare me. You get what you pay for.
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Post by yotonic on Aug 23, 2014 12:53:47 GMT -6
Dear JustJake,
You have received an infraction at Gearslutz.com.
Reason: Continued Moderator Abuse -------
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This infraction is worth 1 point(s) and may result in restricted access until it expires. Serious infractions will never expire.
Original Post: <a href="http://www.gearslutz.com/board/so-much-gear-so-little-time/947914-manley-ref-c-mic-question.html#post10359036">http://www.gearslutz.com/board/so-mu...l#post10359036</a>
---Quote--- And I just received an "infraction" for insulting Tony Belmont. Lol. So now you get punished here for speaking up about inappropriate behavior by a moderator? Ridiculous.
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Post by yotonic on Aug 23, 2014 12:54:15 GMT -6
You have been banned from Gearslutz.com for posting spam.
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Post by tonyb on Aug 23, 2014 12:55:33 GMT -6
The thread is here: www.gearslutz.com/board/so-much-gear-so-little-time/947914-manley-ref-c-mic-question.htmlI never told anyone the Imperial is better than the C800-G. I told him it would be a better choice than the Manley if he wanted a C800-G sound. Phil Fitzsimmons... please stop. Telling people your buddy just got banned is not truthful. You are using multiple identities across multiple forums. That's why you were banned. I don't think John allows that kind of thing here, either.
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Post by yotonic on Aug 23, 2014 13:07:11 GMT -6
That's not why I got banned Tony. I got banned BY YOU for calling you out as someone who abuses GS. You insult people, are less than truthful, bash other manufacturers gear and erase people's profiles who disagree with you. I'm not the only one who has had this experience with you OBVIOUSLY. You aren't kidding anyone either. And clearly you misrepresent who you are for a living. And what bothers me the most is how much of a thug you are. You do not handle yourself as a gentleman. We never would have crossed paths if I hadn't felt compelled to speak up in defense of other forum members I felt you were bullying. Your track record speaks for itself. So spare me with the "multiple identities" misdirection. I have no respect for you as a merchant or a moderator in my opinion.
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Post by tonyb on Aug 23, 2014 13:18:32 GMT -6
Hi Phil,
You signed up on GS as Just Jake and made the same first post on there as you did here as yotonic.
You lied to everyone here saying you were a newbie, but you have been posting on forums like this for years.
You only did it to attack me, because you were mad at me about some posts from two years ago.
We've never done business together... You just don't like my personality.
I'll be in Rochester, NY in a few days. Maybe we can talk about how much you dislike me over lunch at your brother's place.
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Post by yotonic on Aug 23, 2014 13:26:20 GMT -6
Yup, I don't like your personality as I stated. John knows who I am, Sal invited me here, and everyone knows I left GS after a run in with you over the Heritage 1073 that left me disgusted. You are more than welcome to talk to me face to face, if you think I would somehow find that intimidating, that's hilarious. You would have to pay for lunch. The food is the best in the world and I would choose it any day over any Michelin Five Star restaurant in the world... seriously
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Post by yotonic on Aug 23, 2014 13:29:41 GMT -6
Now I am going to have all of your posts in defense of yourself removed....
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Post by tonycamphd on Aug 23, 2014 13:35:45 GMT -6
Tony Belmont, are you F-ing kidding me? you have serious balls showing up here again dude, take your shit back to GS, we'll judge yotonic on our own, i for one am not interested in hearing you bash, tout or defend jack shit, you have 0 credibility, you banned me for calling you out over your incessant disparaging of the Capi Vp28 which you NEVER used, you and your kronies dicked around with the Capi thread to no end, you and your thug buds have serious moral confusion, and conflicts of interest, you are a seller and mod at GS with a clear agenda, simply put, you are a fraud dude, don't sully this place with you BS, go away! Johnkenn i vote for an immediate banning of TB, especially with his showing up here under this circumstance!
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Post by lpedrum on Aug 23, 2014 13:38:29 GMT -6
I find Realgear better in every way, the members are tops!, proven by virtue of the fact that you learn something, feel good and won't have to shower after you visit) The way this thread is going you better get the hot water running.
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Post by yotonic on Aug 23, 2014 13:42:30 GMT -6
I don't harbor that kind of animosity. I think Tony would have no problem with me or a lot of others if he had just exchanged some verbal jabs with me and let it be. The thing that got my goat was the censorship, that's all really. It felt really "big brother" and kind of sinister, un-American and as Tony said it got a mellow old man like myself all worked up. I think you can show bias towards brands you sell as long as you have the balls or integrity to say "yeah guys, I am a fan of this stuff so take my comments with a grain of salt...etc". But just censoring people who rub you the wrong way is a bad move, and breeds a lot of unnecessary bad will between people who all love gear and music etc. Such a waste.
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Post by tonycamphd on Aug 23, 2014 13:46:34 GMT -6
I find Realgear better in every way, the members are tops!, proven by virtue of the fact that you learn something, feel good and won't have to shower after you visit) The way this thread is going you better get the hot water running. you are correct, sorry for my apparent outrage, but i take personally this fraud who banned me coming here and saying anything at all to anyone at all. I've said my piece, JK will do as he see's fit, i will not comment further as my position is clear.
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Post by Johnkenn on Aug 23, 2014 13:48:37 GMT -6
The thread is here: www.gearslutz.com/board/so-much-gear-so-little-time/947914-manley-ref-c-mic-question.htmlI never told anyone the Imperial is better than the C800-G. I told him it would be a better choice than the Manley if he wanted a C800-G sound. Phil Fitzsimmons... please stop. Telling people your buddy just got banned is not truthful. You are using multiple identities across multiple forums. That's why you were banned. I don't think John allows that kind of thing here, either. You mean like being banned from this forum and then re-registering just to get on here?
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Post by Johnkenn on Aug 23, 2014 13:52:45 GMT -6
Tony B, someone was recently asking about your website and you as a salesman - and I absolutely vouched for you. I've bought a few things from you and you've always been a good guy in that regard. But - you being a Gearslutz moderator and posting on here just doesn't mix.
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Post by Johnkenn on Aug 23, 2014 13:53:55 GMT -6
I don't harbor that kind of animosity. I think Tony would have no problem with me or a lot of others if he had just exchanged some verbal jabs with me and let it be. The thing that got my goat was the censorship, that's all really. It felt really "big brother" and kind of sinister, un-American and as Tony said it got a mellow old man like myself all worked up. I think you can show bias towards brands you sell as long as you have the balls or integrity to say "yeah guys, I am a fan of this stuff so take my comments with a grain of salt...etc". But just censoring people who rub you the wrong way is a bad move, and breeds a lot of unnecessary bad will between people who all love gear and music etc. Such a waste. Glad to have you here yotonic. Tell your friends.
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Post by tonyb on Aug 23, 2014 13:55:39 GMT -6
Tony B, someone was recently asking about your website and you as a salesman - and I absolutely vouched for you. I've bought a few things from you and you've always been a good guy in that regard. But - you being a Gearslutz moderator and posting on here just doesn't mix. Hi John, Yes, it was the same guy that started this thread - yotonic. He pretended to be a newbie interested in Aurora gear and posted on here and GS... look up his posts.
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Post by yotonic on Aug 23, 2014 14:02:50 GMT -6
Yes that was me. Obviously it must occur to you that you've been needlessly creating enemies out of "normal Joes" who aren't even competitors of yours. I pretty much keep to myself. And your approach to promoting gear while I found it questionable, didn't bother me enough to "not like you". But censoring me, and misrepresenting my statements, stupid little things like that created a lot of unnecessary ill-will instead of increased sales. And clearly had me looking to "take a shot at you" (like a lot of people here) which I'm not proud of. I feel like I've come down to your level and that's indefensible.
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Post by tonycamphd on Aug 23, 2014 14:03:57 GMT -6
Tony B, someone was recently asking about your website and you as a salesman - and I absolutely vouched for you. I've bought a few things from you and you've always been a good guy in that regard. But - you being a Gearslutz moderator and posting on here just doesn't mix. Yes, it was the same guy that started this thread. He pretended to be a newbie interested in Aurora gear and posted on here and GS... look up his posts. Like i said, we'll be the judges of our members, so what if he's "pretending" to be a newb, what is he selling? You "pretend" to be an impartial mod, but we know what your selling.
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Post by kidvybes on Aug 23, 2014 14:08:15 GMT -6
...not taking any sides here, but I recently exchanged posts with "JustJake" on the GS thread "Best U47 Clone" and then saw the same post by yotonic here on the MK-47 thread...I did a bit of research and saw yotonic had been banned on GS, so I put 2&2 together...nothing particularly unusual in the forum realm, IMHO...
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Post by Johnkenn on Aug 23, 2014 14:10:08 GMT -6
Well if his intention was to discredit you, it kind've backfired because it looks like several people including myself vouched for you. I would suggest worrying less. And thanks for reporting this thread (where's the eye roll emoji?)
As for multiple accounts.,.i've never understood why GS got their panties in such a wad over that. Hey - that's just one more account you can charge advertisers for, right? That seems to be the GS plan.
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