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Post by Johnkenn on Aug 23, 2014 14:11:59 GMT -6
I got banned over at GS for having multiple identities. Still have a few they don't know about. I used to sell my gear under a different name so I wouldn't have to explain to people why I was selling the pre I just bought. (Because it sucked)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2014 14:12:01 GMT -6
Hm. So, i don't know any forum that accepts a banned member to re-register and even discuss about their opinions and insult non-banned forum members as pretenders. As far as i read yotonic's posts, there was no reason i see the only forum rule beeing broken or having multiple accounts around here. You see, Tony, this is a forum of mainly exilants of the big forums like GS. Why should we have any interest in having you bringing up unfriendly behaviour around here? What did you expect? You had the chance to tell your point of view. More than one could expect in a forum he was banned from already, for whatever reason...
I guess this thread should be cooled down, left alone, until it falls into oblivion...
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Post by kidvybes on Aug 23, 2014 14:14:33 GMT -6
I got banned over at GS for having multiple identities. Still have a few they don't know about. I used to sell my gear under a different name so I wouldn't have to explain to people why I was selling the pre I just bought. (Because it sucked) ...I believe I called you out on GS over a mic you listed for sale shortly after waxing poetically about it a few days earlier...isn't that the definition of "gearslut"?...
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Post by Johnkenn on Aug 23, 2014 14:16:21 GMT -6
Yeah. I could ban Tony again but what's the point. The only reason I deleted his account in the first place was because considering the history of this board, I thought having current Gearslutz moderators on here was just in bad taste. They wanted me gone so bad they banned me. I start a board and now they come over and post on my board. Doesn't add up.
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Post by yotonic on Aug 23, 2014 14:18:05 GMT -6
I'm over it. Just Tony acknowledging our little brawl is enough for me. I honestly felt like Tony discredited a lot of other manufacturer's gear (which is none of my business and no excuse) but it got carried away with the banning and censorship of my voice. I had a chip on my shoulder on how I got handled, it's off. I'm not interested in hurting anybody in this business, just jostling in the corners. I'll leave you be Tony. Try and take it easy on the next guy.
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Post by Johnkenn on Aug 23, 2014 14:18:13 GMT -6
I got banned over at GS for having multiple identities. Still have a few they don't know about. I used to sell my gear under a different name so I wouldn't have to explain to people why I was selling the pre I just bought. (Because it sucked) ...I believe I called you out on GS over a mic you listed for sale shortly after waxing poetically about it a few days earlier...isn't that the definition of "gearslut"?... And which one would that have been? More than likely, it was a money issue. Probably had to sell it. If you are intimating that I don't or can't form my own opinions, then I would say that you don't know me very well.
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Post by tonycamphd on Aug 23, 2014 14:22:14 GMT -6
I got banned over at GS for having multiple identities. Still have a few they don't know about. I used to sell my gear under a different name so I wouldn't have to explain to people why I was selling the pre I just bought. (Because it sucked) I've been a member over at GS under another name since 1 day after i was banned, i use them for the classified's as well, it's honestly about all GS is good for IMO
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Post by kidvybes on Aug 23, 2014 14:31:56 GMT -6
...I believe I called you out on GS over a mic you listed for sale shortly after waxing poetically about it a few days earlier...isn't that the definition of "gearslut"?... And which one would that have been? More than likely, it was a money issue. Probably had to sell it. If you are intimating that I don't or can't form my own opinions, then I would say that you don't know me very well. ...I'm just poking fun at yuh, not intimating anything like that...I think it was a Blue mic?...one of the inexpensive models... ...and you're not alone in getting called out by me for the very same scenario...all in good fun...
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Post by kidvybes on Aug 23, 2014 14:37:48 GMT -6
...BTW, as to those mysterious "Imperial Classic" mics Tony B has been "planting seeds" about on GS for a while now, somebody must have slaved for veritable minutes to come up with that brand name...
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Post by mobeach on Aug 23, 2014 14:52:03 GMT -6
Drama like this makes me glad I was just an amateur peon on GS that always got kicked in the head with an iron boot when I asked simple questions about simple things. The nerve of me wanting to produce my own CD's when there's all those condescending pros out there that can do it for me
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Post by ericn on Aug 23, 2014 14:58:53 GMT -6
The fact is Jules should have some type of Disipline for Tony who as a mod and a Dealer Has been pushing this Imperial C800 copy as vapor ware for years yet nobody else seams to know shit about it! He also says don't buy a used C800 with original tube because it needs servicing yet he states the only service he has seen C800s need is a $75 tube! Even when he says something else's he's saying buy mine! I have seen many C800''s that have very little time on them Because dealers like Mr Belmont sold them as a Works on everything mic ! You want the C800 sound buy one ! The Only person I would Trust to get the sound of that mic is our own Shannon. I believe he did the original Capsules in his brothers Mics and those were all damn Close.
John I would say ban the Idiot, but. 1 Show your the bigger man 2 shake the a--hole for some ad $$! 3 he will just keep coming back .becaus it's Tony and stuff like this will keep happening !
Of course John I would right Jules a short note and say since his banned Moderator signed up here as a new member a precident has been set that GS and its moderators do not in fact respect bans by other forums and unless HE JULES SOMEHOW PUBLICLY DISIPLINES TONY ! You will shout from high heavens of the net GS Could care less about Internet rules !
Tony thanks for pro wing you think you are above somebody else's rules in their house you are an Fing j#%^+SS ! To anyone who wants to buy from him hey what other rules / laws is Tony above in Tony Belmonts mind ?
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Post by Ward on Aug 23, 2014 15:45:10 GMT -6
Finny you should say that ericn, these were my thoughts on it.... __________________
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Post by ericn on Aug 23, 2014 15:55:42 GMT -6
Ward, You know what the great thing about working for Full Compass was? I could pretty much Diss anything out there withou having a conflict of interest because even if we didn't sell it I knew we could in a second. !
I still say JK needs to get Jules to discipline Tony ! If JK banned him here he needs to respect that, If he had begged JK to let him tell his side of the story that would be different!
It seams that in the minds of a GS mod the only rules that matter are his ! I feel like I'm dealing with my 10 year old no he has more respect than Belmont , as self serving but more respectful!
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Post by tonycamphd on Aug 23, 2014 16:19:13 GMT -6
I still say JK needs to get Jules to discipline Tony ! Hey now E, lets follow that Tony up with a "B"... mmmk 8) the only person who stands less of a chance getting Jules to discipline TB, is me lol Beside the fact that he's useless, it's a moot point, It's a virtual certainty that GS has a behind the scenes agenda to propagate certain brands. The sad part is, if they just let members, honestly or not, state there opinions on gear, they'd be better off in the long run, the truth comes out eventually, it has a funny way of doing that, in the meantime GS loses more credibility everyday. If you google audio gear or tech questions, GS used to be it, now forums like RGO are popping up at the top more often, that doesn't bode well for GS IMO. Freedom of speech and putting members above all else is the recipe for all around success imo.
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Post by ericn on Aug 23, 2014 16:29:10 GMT -6
I still say JK needs to get Jules to discipline Tony ! Hey now E, lets follow that Tony up with a "B"... mmmk 8) the only person who stands less of a chance getting Jules to discipline TB, is me lol Beside the fact that he's useless, it's a moot point, It's a virtual certainty that GS has a behind the scenes agenda to propagate certain brands. The sad part is, if they just let members, honestly or not, state there opinions on gear, they'd be better off in the long run, the truth comes out eventually, it has a funny way of doing that, in the meantime GS loses more credibility everyday. If you google audio gear or tech questions, GS used to be it, now forums like RGO are popping up at the top more often, that doesn't bode well for GS IMO. Freedom of speech and putting members above all else is the recipe for all around success imo. Yeah should have added a B for female dog! I agree with free speech, but we a have to have some basic rules ! This is JKs rodeo so it's his choice! I have said it before but there needs to be basic rules as far as dealers Distributors Manufactuerers and disclosing conflict of interest ! And other products! We both no just because it comes out of the mouth of even a very well respected well meaning dealer, their is a pretty good chance it's wrong and that can really bite you in the wallet!
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Post by Johnkenn on Aug 23, 2014 16:41:44 GMT -6
And which one would that have been? More than likely, it was a money issue. Probably had to sell it. If you are intimating that I don't or can't form my own opinions, then I would say that you don't know me very well. ...I'm just poking fun at yuh, not intimating anything like that...I think it was a Blue mic?...one of the inexpensive models... ...and you're not alone in getting called out by me for the very same scenario...all in good fun... No offense taken. It was a Blue Bluebird. Fantastic buy for $199. Yeah, it's bright, but I was surprised how usable it was.
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Post by Johnkenn on Aug 23, 2014 16:43:58 GMT -6
The fact is Jules should have some type of Disipline for Tony who as a mod and a Dealer Has been pushing this Imperial C800 copy as vapor ware for years yet nobody else seams to know shit about it! He also says don't buy a used C800 with original tube because it needs servicing yet he states the only service he has seen C800s need is a $75 tube! Even when he says something else's he's saying buy mine! I have seen many C800''s that have very little time on them Because dealers like Mr Belmont sold them as a Works on everything mic ! You want the C800 sound buy one ! The Only person I would Trust to get the sound of that mic is our own Shannon. I believe he did the original Capsules in his brothers Mics and those were all damn Close. John I would say ban the Idiot, but. 1 Show your the bigger man 2 shake the a--hole for some ad $$! 3 he will just keep coming back .becaus it's Tony and stuff like this will keep happening ! Of course John I would right Jules a short note and say since his banned Moderator signed up here as a new member a precident has been set that GS and its moderators do not in fact respect bans by other forums and unless HE JULES SOMEHOW PUBLICLY DISIPLINES TONY ! You will shout from high heavens of the net GS Could care less about Internet rules ! Tony thanks for pro wing you think you are above somebody else's rules in their house you are an Fing j#%^+SS ! To anyone who wants to buy from him hey what other rules / laws is Tony above in Tony Belmonts mind ? Not gonna poke that bear. GS has enough money to make me "sleep with the fishes"
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Post by Johnkenn on Aug 23, 2014 16:48:57 GMT -6
So guys - let's just move on from this. I never had a problem with TonyB over there - my problems were with others. I bought several things from Tony and he was always a man of his word. No need for character assassination. I DO think sometimes he can't win for losing over there on the board and that's exactly the reason why gear salesmen will never be moderators over here. So...let's calm down the rhetoric and focus on other more positive things...
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Post by yotonic on Aug 23, 2014 23:11:02 GMT -6
John I'm going to let this die out of respect to you and the forum you have built. But I would like to point out that there has been NO "character assassination" of Tony Belmont by me or any of your loyal members here. Lets keep it real in defense of those of us who didn't ask to be run over by Tony.
I did ask a baited question about him with every intent of trying to "out him" so to speak. But big deal if a guy sells gear out of his home in the internet age. That's what he does, it's not character assassination. It was only germaine to the issue because I felt he represented himself as a big time "studio builder" and working Producer in the record industry only to have a pulpit on GS to bully people, ban people and push them into buying his wares. None of that is necessary to sell gear to a bunch of 40 year old easy going independent studio owners, none of us care. I should have just written Jules a letter and left GS before banging heads with Tony.
I'm not a hater and this doesn't mean sh^# in our daily lives, but I'm not some sap that's going to let another human being walk all over me so he can make $40 off a preamp on a chat forum. I've never, ever in all my years on GS seen this guy apologize to one person or even "take one on the chin". So it's hard not to feel like he's the kind of guy that will take advantage of people's altruism.
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Post by RicFoxx on Aug 24, 2014 6:22:28 GMT -6
John I'm going to let this die out of respect to you and the forum you have built. But I would like to point out that there has been NO "character assassination" of Tony Belmont by me or any of your loyal members here. Lets keep it real in defense of those of us who didn't ask to be run over by Tony. I did ask a baited question about him with every intent of trying to "out him" so to speak. But big deal if a guy sells gear out of his home in the internet age. That's what he does, it's not character assassination. It was only germaine to the issue because I felt he represented himself as a big time "studio builder" and working Producer in the record industry only to have a pulpit on GS to bully people, ban people and push them into buying his wares. None of that is necessary to sell gear to a bunch of 40 year old easy going independent studio owners, none of us care. I should have just written Jules a letter and left GS before banging heads with Tony. I'm not a hater and this doesn't mean sh^# in our daily lives, but I'm not some sap that's going to let another human being walk all over me so he can make $40 off a preamp on a chat forum. I've never, ever in all my years on GS seen this guy apologize to one person or even "take one on the chin". So it's hard not to feel like he's the kind of guy that will take advantage of people's altruism. Surprise! The internet is full of people that misrepresents themselves. For the record I don't care too much about this type of silliness but I will say that I absolutely have no problem whatsoever about someone selling anything out of their home as long as long as they provide a good service and good product that is backed by the manufacture. Concerning GS...if you don't like it don't go to it! Glad you here, tell all your buddies...this is a cool place!!!
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Post by jcoutu1 on Aug 24, 2014 6:43:02 GMT -6
John I'm going to let this die out of respect to you and the forum you have built. But I would like to point out that there has been NO "character assassination" of Tony Belmont by me or any of your loyal members here. Lets keep it real in defense of those of us who didn't ask to be run over by Tony. I did ask a baited question about him with every intent of trying to "out him" so to speak. But big deal if a guy sells gear out of his home in the internet age. That's what he does, it's not character assassination. It was only germaine to the issue because I felt he represented himself as a big time "studio builder" and working Producer in the record industry only to have a pulpit on GS to bully people, ban people and push them into buying his wares. None of that is necessary to sell gear to a bunch of 40 year old easy going independent studio owners, none of us care. I should have just written Jules a letter and left GS before banging heads with Tony. I'm not a hater and this doesn't mean sh^# in our daily lives, but I'm not some sap that's going to let another human being walk all over me so he can make $40 off a preamp on a chat forum. I've never, ever in all my years on GS seen this guy apologize to one person or even "take one on the chin". So it's hard not to feel like he's the kind of guy that will take advantage of people's altruism. Well, since you did misrepresent yourself with the intention of causing a shitstorm (and were even semi successful), how about if you tell everyone who you really are and what you do? I think that would be fair.
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Post by Johnkenn on Aug 24, 2014 8:51:08 GMT -6
Locking this thread. Why bring GS drama over here? I would like to just delete it...but I'm sure that would piss people iff too.
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Post by littlesicily on Aug 24, 2014 16:34:55 GMT -6
I got banned over at GS for having multiple identities. Still have a few they don't know about. I used to sell my gear under a different name so I wouldn't have to explain to people why I was selling the pre I just bought. (Because it sucked) LOL!! One of your best posts yet Johnkenn !!
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