ericn
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Post by ericn on Sept 18, 2024 16:51:45 GMT -6
LA real estate is just to expensive you can’t make the mortgage on current rates, other markets are starting to see the same issue. You may have missed the part where I mentioned NYC and Boston 🤣 I appreciate that the real estate market is fucked. It's a reality that has impacted my studio severely, and several others in the area, but it *can* be managed. Over drinks last night the subject of where is Taylor going to work in KC when she is here visiting Travis? Lots of small rooms but nothing special left. Nobody liked the fact that I said “ a room in Travis’s giant house! |
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Post by wiz on Sept 18, 2024 17:04:49 GMT -6
when you say revenue is the same..... not the artists revenue? Perhaps the streaming companies....
cheers
Wiz
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Post by Quint on Sept 18, 2024 17:18:28 GMT -6
when you say revenue is the same..... not the artists revenue? Perhaps the streaming companies.... cheers Wiz Yeah, I was about to say the same thing. Even if total revenue is trending back up, how much of that is actually going into artist's pockets? And if artists aren't making money, they're not paying studios to record them. So I don't see the upward trend in revenue (as depicted in that graphic) as correlated with the health of the studio business. That upward revenue trend is just an indication that the streaming companies and music consumption industry, at large, have figured out how to drum up more business, all while taking a relatively bigger and bigger piece of the pie, compared to the artists. |
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Post by drbill on Sept 18, 2024 18:07:06 GMT -6
There’s reports/articles that drBill and others have pointed out that shows streaming revenue is comparable to when records were sold physically in the industry. You got a link for me? Cause I sure don't feel that way right now, and I'm not sure I ever did. I'd like to re-read what I said and see how my thoughts have changed. "Streaming" might be doing OK, but there is a second middle man (Spotify, etc.) taking a HUGE portion of the pie that didn't exist in the old models of music distribution. |
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Post by drbill on Sept 18, 2024 18:08:53 GMT -6
So I don't see the upward trend in revenue (as depicted in that graphic) as correlated with the health of the studio business. That upward revenue trend is just an indication that the streaming companies and music consumption industry, at large, have figured out how to drum up more business, all while taking a relatively bigger and bigger piece of the pie, compared to the artists. Yes. Exactly. Instead of one devil we now have many..... |
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Post by OtisGreying on Sept 18, 2024 21:40:27 GMT -6
when you say revenue is the same..... not the artists revenue? Perhaps the streaming companies.... cheers Wiz Yeah, I was about to say the same thing. Even if total revenue is trending back up, how much of that is actually going into artist's pockets? And if artists aren't making money, they're not paying studios to record them. So I don't see the upward trend in revenue (as depicted in that graphic) as correlated with the health of the studio business. That upward revenue trend is just an indication that the streaming companies and music consumption industry, at large, have figured out how to drum up more business, all while taking a relatively bigger and bigger piece of the pie, compared to the artists. This is true I wouldn't say most artists are benefiting proportionally to the uptrend in streaming revenue, of course the rights holders to master recordings and the streaming services are going to be the biggest benefactors. It at least does highlight the fact however that the money is there. My argument was that the record companies are getting paid shitloads more than they were 15 years ago and yet the budgets for even the biggest artists in the world seem to be tiny (granted the biggest artists are all single people not bands who require a big studio space). |
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Post by OtisGreying on Sept 18, 2024 21:43:34 GMT -6
There’s reports/articles that drBill and others have pointed out that shows streaming revenue is comparable to when records were sold physically in the industry. You got a link for me? Cause I sure don't feel that way right now, and I'm not sure I ever did. I'd like to re-read what I said and see how my thoughts have changed. "Streaming" might be doing OK, but there is a second middle man (Spotify, etc.) taking a HUGE portion of the pie that didn't exist in the old models of music distribution. I remember it was some statistic you posted, this is a couple years ago, basically saying how much the streaming services and/or record labels had brought in revenue wise for a given year. It was a big number and you were saying something like music is making money but yeah artists are not getting it. But music IS making decent money |
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Post by jmoose on Sept 24, 2024 19:52:01 GMT -6
Well now... despite all the speculation here the facts are way more twisted. Crazy stuff. Interesting read & insight into a segment of the music biz that's way above my pay grade. Its better then the mixerman saga anyway..! www.billboard.com/pro/record-plant-recording-studio-isnt-closing/---- But the truth is more complicated. The fate of the Record Plant is in the hands of a U.S. bankruptcy court in California, the result of a multimillion-dollar squabble between a fast-talking Italian music producer and a prolific hitmaker for Bruno Mars’ songwriting and production team, the Smeezingtons. Court trustees will sell the Record Plant’s assets to pay its creditors, then grant what’s left of the business to the highest bidder. The new owner could then decide to close it for good or keep it open. ---- |
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