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Post by markfouxman on Jun 5, 2024 19:33:11 GMT -6
The ShokBase, developed by Samar Audio Design founder Dr. Mark Fouxman, is a new, universal, and revolutionary approach for mitigating microphone shocks and vibrations. Despite its compact dimensions, the ShokBase offers remarkable effectiveness across various microphone types and is intended to be used with virtually any microphone on the market, seamlessly integrating with existing microphone clips or holders and acting as an adapter between the microphone holder and stand. Such innovative and unique solution makes the ShokBase virtually invisible while maintaining high effectiveness, making it suitable for a wide range of applications such as the video and movie industry, live performances, home and professional recording studios, drum kits, podcasts, conference microphone applications, and much more. The device is built in house at the Samar Audio Design shop in Salt Lake City, Utah. Despite its low profile size, the ShokBase boasts a sophisticated internal structure utilizing three principles of dealing with shocks and vibrations: damping, isolation, and cancellation. This is made possible through the use of modern damping and isolating materials allowing the device to maintain stiffness while effectively eliminating shocks, particularly in the low-end frequency range where rumble, footsteps, and other unwanted low-frequency sources are prevalent. To further enhance efficiency, the ShokBase employs two stages of decoupling. One of the key advantages of the ShokBase is its compatibility with existing microphone holders, which not only simplifies setup but also helps dampen microphone body resonances. Furthermore, the universal design of the ShokBase allows it to be used with classic vintage microphones that are often come hard-mounted. The ShokBase is compatible with quick-release devices for easy setup, making it particularly suitable for mobile and on-site performances and recordings. Additionally, it can be used with stereo bars, eliminating the need for individual shock mounts for each microphone, as well as with 5/8”x27 Atlas (or similar) flanges, which can be integrated into a ceiling, or desks for conference microphone applications. To cater to a broad range of microphones, for the maximum effectiveness the ShokBase is available in two different weight ratings: one dot—light (for microphones up to 8-10 oz), two dot—medium (8 oz up to 2 lbs). This ensures compatibility and optimal performance across various microphone setups. The higher ratings are also available on special order basis. For more details and introductory special please visit: samaraudiodesign.com/Shokbase.html  |
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Post by the other mark williams on Jun 5, 2024 19:56:41 GMT -6
markfouxman these look really intriguing, but I'm having trouble understanding how it actually attaches to various microphones. I don't see any pics on your site or on your Facebook page. Do you have any pics of these in action?
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Post by markfouxman on Jun 5, 2024 20:13:03 GMT -6
markfouxman these look really intriguing, but I'm having trouble understanding how it actually attaches to various microphones. I don't see any pics on your site or on your Facebook page. Do you have any pics of these in action?
Mark,
Yes, currently there are only two places it is posted--our website and RGO. The video of those in action/review is coming shortly. To visualize how it is attached just imagine on the bottom of the ShokBase there is a female 5/8"x27TPI thread, which attaches to the microphone stand. The top has a 5/8"x27TPI male thread--there you attach the mic holder. That's all... basically, just think of it as a continuation of the microphone stand.
Is it a bit more clear?
Best, M
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Post by russellcreekps on Jun 5, 2024 20:15:59 GMT -6
markfouxman these look really intriguing, but I'm having trouble understanding how it actually attaches to various microphones. I don't see any pics on your site or on your Facebook page. Do you have any pics of these in action? It appears clips or shock mounts are still needed, it’s installed between the stand and whatever holds the mic. |
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Post by markfouxman on Jun 5, 2024 20:30:19 GMT -6
markfouxman these look really intriguing, but I'm having trouble understanding how it actually attaches to various microphones. I don't see any pics on your site or on your Facebook page. Do you have any pics of these in action? It appears clips or shock mounts are still needed, it’s installed between the stand and whatever holds the mic.
That's correct... but additional shock mounts are not needed--this little device takes care of that part. Our favorites are German made K&M mic holders. They made well, cheap (most of the places $4.99), come in different sizes, compact, and most of all they are made out of thick rubber and the way they grip the microphones provide additional benefit of good dampening of microphone bodies to avoid body resonances.
Also, the ShockBase works well with microphones with yokes, or any hard mount vintage mics--remember, the RCA44, U47, or 251 all came hard mount and it is virtually impossible to find a suitable shock mount without affecting their visual appeal...
Best, M
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Post by the other mark williams on Jun 5, 2024 20:32:15 GMT -6
markfouxman these look really intriguing, but I'm having trouble understanding how it actually attaches to various microphones. I don't see any pics on your site or on your Facebook page. Do you have any pics of these in action?
Mark,
Yes, currently there are only two places it is posted--our website and RGO. The video of those in action/review is coming shortly. To visualize how it is attached just imagine on the bottom of the ShokBase there is a female 5/8"x27TPI thread, which attaches to the microphone stand. The top has a 5/8"x27TPI male thread--there you attach the mic holder. That's all... basically, just think of it as a continuation of the microphone stand.
Is it a bit more clear?
Best, M
Yes, that's much clearer - thanks, Mark! I wasn't visualizing that there would be a female 5/8" on the bottom, but knowing that now, it makes perfect sense. I'm excited to hear these in action. I have a lot of trouble in my home space with sounds traveling up through my mic stands, even with my Latch Lake and Rycote shock mounts. |
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Post by Blackdawg on Jun 6, 2024 0:13:42 GMT -6
This looks perfect for my coles
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Post by christophert on Jun 6, 2024 2:55:29 GMT -6
It appears clips or shock mounts are still needed, it’s installed between the stand and whatever holds the mic.
That's correct... but additional shock mounts are not needed--this little device takes care of that part. Our favorites are German made K&M mic holders. They made well, cheap (most of the places $4.99), come in different sizes, compact, and most of all they are made out of thick rubber and the way they grip the microphones provide additional benefit of good dampening of microphone bodies to avoid body resonances.
Also, the ShockBase works well with microphones with yokes, or any hard mount vintage mics--remember, the RCA44, U47, or 251 all came hard mount and it is virtually impossible to find a suitable shock mount without affecting their visual appeal...
Best, M
Hi Mark, do they work on an angle like 45 degrees, and with heavy microphones on angles ? I was thinking of Coles / RCA44 mics. |
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Post by Ward on Jun 6, 2024 6:25:39 GMT -6
This is genius. Pure genius Well done, markfouxman Definitely getting one or two for my 44 and 84 ribbons. |
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Post by EmRR on Jun 6, 2024 8:00:29 GMT -6
Guys, note the max 2 lb rating. No 44’s, and a 4038 is 6 oz over too.
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Post by honkeur on Jun 6, 2024 8:26:41 GMT -6
Guys, note the max 2 lb rating. No 44’s, and a 4038 is 6 oz over too. The Samar website does say "To cater to a broad range of microphones, for the maximum effectiveness the ShokBase is available in two different weight ratings: one dot—light (for microphones up to 8-10 oz), two dot—medium (8 oz up to 2 lbs). This ensures compatibility and optimal performance across various microphone setups. The higher ratings are also available on special order basis." The wording is slightly unclear -- perhaps there is a special order version that can handle > 2 lbs ? |
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Post by andersmv on Jun 6, 2024 8:29:45 GMT -6
So this is really designed to just stay on your microphone stand? Really cool idea, I would be curious to try one. My largest use case though would be with my old RCA PB-90 or my AEA R88 stereo ribbon mic, and both of those are over the 2 lbs weight limit, I don't know if it would be a concern for my other, smaller mics but again, I'm definitely not going to knock it until I try it. I'm assuming this would need to be used upright as opposed to the mic hanging upside down?
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Post by Ward on Jun 6, 2024 8:58:41 GMT -6
Guys, note the max 2 lb rating. No 44’s, and a 4038 is 6 oz over too. DAMNIT.... I guess I'm waiting for the 3-dot version. |
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Post by ericn on Jun 6, 2024 9:12:23 GMT -6
Guys, note the max 2 lb rating. No 44’s, and a 4038 is 6 oz over too. I’m actually impressed by the load ratings. Any suspension has a weight range where it’s going to be effective, one of the problems with other designs like this has always been the fact that while they have had a limited range, nobody had the guts / brains to tell us what that range is! Kudos Mark! |
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Post by markfouxman on Jun 6, 2024 10:52:01 GMT -6
Yes, indeed the weight range is essential for the maximum efficiency of any suspension. The problem however, is not only the weight, but also leverage of the mic. Say, Melodium 42B, or RCA44 are not only heavy at some 5 lbs, but also pretty large, so working with 45 degree angle will increase the rating to more like 8lbs.
The three dot is the answer (Ward really got the point correctly:) and should be coming out together with the others. We just didn’t have the sample yet to post the pics. It will be twice as long at some 6”, vs 3” for one and two dots versions to compensate for leverage. Estimated rating is up to 10 lbs. The only heavier mic I can think of is historical Siemens/Klangfilm/Telefunken Ela M201 from 1928, which has a huge ceramic horseshoe magnet and weighs 10lbs. This one probably won’t work with 45 degree angle and will need even higher rating.
Best, M
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Post by andersmv on Jun 6, 2024 11:34:32 GMT -6
Yes, indeed the weight range is essential for the maximum efficiency of any suspension. The problem however, is not only the weight, but also leverage of the mic. Say, Melodium 42B, or RCA44 are not only heavy at some 5 lbs, but also pretty large, so working with 45 degree angle will increase the rating to more like 8lbs. The three dot is the answer (Ward really got the point correctly:) and should be coming out together with the others. We just didn’t have the sample yet to post the pics. It will be twice as long at some 6”, vs 3” for one and two dots versions to compensate for leverage. Estimated rating is up to 10 lbs. The only heavier mic I can think of is historical Siemens/Klangfilm/Telefunken Ela M201 from 1928, which has a huge ceramic horseshoe magnet and weighs 10lbs. This one probably won’t work with 45 degree angle and will need even higher rating. Best, M I've got an old RCA PB-90 with a sound stage mount on it, it's pushing 8-10 lbs probably. I'm happy to test the 3 dot version for you and give some feedback. I don't think you're going to find a heavier mic than that  |
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Post by phdamage on Jun 6, 2024 11:46:46 GMT -6
This looks a lot like the shock mounts that come with 4038s. Am I mistaken?
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Post by recordingengineer on Jun 6, 2024 12:59:46 GMT -6
Wow! I was just looking at the Neumann one, thinking, that it won’t work for my needs, then you post this! Don’t know what the finished-weight will be yet (as it’s guts are going in now), but now I know the direction to look! drive.google.com/file/d/1URJY-99irYoMiSZRbMMKvId6CBzf_6sF/view?usp=drivesdk(I don’t know why, but I’ve never been able to get pictures from my Google Drive to insert the image here.)
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Post by Ward on Jun 6, 2024 13:19:29 GMT -6
Yes, indeed the weight range is essential for the maximum efficiency of any suspension. The problem however, is not only the weight, but also leverage of the mic. Say, Melodium 42B, or RCA44 are not only heavy at some 5 lbs, but also pretty large, so working with 45 degree angle will increase the rating to more like 8lbs. The three dot is the answer (Ward really got the point correctly:) and should be coming out together with the others. We just didn’t have the sample yet to post the pics. It will be twice as long at some 6”, vs 3” for one and two dots versions to compensate for leverage. Estimated rating is up to 10 lbs. The only heavier mic I can think of is historical Siemens/Klangfilm/Telefunken Ela M201 from 1928, which has a huge ceramic horseshoe magnet and weighs 10lbs. This one probably won’t work with 45 degree angle and will need even higher rating. Best, M Speaking on behalf of myself, and I believe I am unanimous in that, Ward is more than willing to test the 3-dot! |
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Post by EmRR on Jun 6, 2024 13:28:06 GMT -6
The Warm 44 approaches 7 lbs, pretty sure my 44-BX is more like 9 lbs. the shock on it seems pretty good though. If you have a worn out 44 shock there’s a couple people who do the replacement work.
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Post by Ward on Jun 6, 2024 13:30:03 GMT -6
The Warm 44 approaches 7 lbs, pretty sure my 44-BX is more like 9 lbs. the shock on it seems pretty good though. If you have a worn out 44 shock there’s a couple people who do the replacement work. if mine isn't 10 lbs, it's handy on it. |
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Post by trappist on Jun 6, 2024 14:05:02 GMT -6
Ordered and paid for a “One Dot” for 8 to 10 ounce microphones.
I like new and inventive concepts.
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Post by markfouxman on Jun 6, 2024 14:41:53 GMT -6
Wow! I was just looking at the Neumann one, thinking, that it won’t work for my needs, then you post this! Don’t know what the finished-weight will be yet (as it’s guts are going in now), but now I know the direction to look! drive.google.com/file/d/1URJY-99irYoMiSZRbMMKvId6CBzf_6sF/view?usp=drivesdk(I don’t know why, but I’ve never been able to get pictures from my Google Drive to insert the image here.)
With the mic that tall regardless the weight, to reduce the leverage I'd hold it rather in the middle of the mic. That's what we did in our MF656 stereo mic, which made a huge difference in the ease of secure setup.
Best, M
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Post by recordingengineer on Jun 6, 2024 15:05:28 GMT -6
With the mic that tall regardless the weight, to reduce the leverage I'd hold it rather in the middle of the mic. That's what we did in our MF656 stereo mic, which made a huge difference in the ease of secure setup. Best, M Right. My only real option there, as far as I know, is: www.enhancedaudio.ie/m600series.htmlHowever, I did put a mount on the bottom of the mic for ease of strict-vertical mounting. |
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Post by the other mark williams on Jun 6, 2024 16:41:52 GMT -6
With the mic that tall regardless the weight, to reduce the leverage I'd hold it rather in the middle of the mic. That's what we did in our MF656 stereo mic, which made a huge difference in the ease of secure setup. Best, M Right. My only real option there, as far as I know, is: www.enhancedaudio.ie/m600series.htmlHowever, I did put a mount on the bottom of the mic for ease of strict-vertical mounting. that mic is huge! You’re going to end up needing some kind of Matthelini clamp for that thing! |
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