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Post by dok on May 24, 2024 10:41:57 GMT -6
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Post by Johnkenn on May 24, 2024 11:07:24 GMT -6
Wow. What a cool time to be alive.
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Post by ab101 on May 24, 2024 11:45:13 GMT -6
So, who are the laborers putting this together? Any info?
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Post by ericn on May 24, 2024 11:56:23 GMT -6
So, who are the laborers putting this together? Any info? Oh take me back to Behringer City😁 The DIY community is going to love thes Behringer Neve clones, a used one will be less than a custom case😁 |
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Post by copperx on May 24, 2024 12:10:50 GMT -6
This is fantastic for the new generations! Twenty years ago I was wondering why nobody was doing this. I guess the market wasn't ripe back then.
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Post by paulcheeba on May 24, 2024 14:17:40 GMT -6
Unbelievable. Gooli has no shame. Warm have already done this cheap scraping the barrel.
I’d rather use Acustica plugins any day.
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Post by kcatthedog on May 24, 2024 14:32:09 GMT -6
Hmm, a cheap clone that is “inspired”, by a classic circuit, is exactly what?  |
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Post by drastic on May 24, 2024 15:47:56 GMT -6
Alright when’s the recording console coming….
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Post by ericn on May 24, 2024 16:36:39 GMT -6
Alright when’s the recording console coming…. The good news is they figured out to do it for $350 per module. The bad news is shipping the frame is as much as a new Porsche 😁 |
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Post by ericn on May 24, 2024 16:39:36 GMT -6
Hmm, a cheap clone that is “inspired”, by a classic circuit, is exactly what? We kind of copied the transformers, we replaced the inductor EQ with a gyrator version and used a bunch of our private lable version of the TL072 but……. We nailed the look and isn’t that what it’s all about? |
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Post by lowlou on May 24, 2024 17:04:51 GMT -6
So, who are the laborers putting this together? Any info? Not Ouïghours, too busy with see food. |
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Post by theshea on May 25, 2024 0:22:34 GMT -6
Alright when’s the recording console coming…. The good news is they figured out to do it for $350 per module. The bad news is shipping the frame is as much as a new Porsche 😁 they could do a small neve sidecar clone … |
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Post by thehightenor on May 25, 2024 2:06:06 GMT -6
Cheap and cheerful.
There’s always been a market for cheap and cheerful.
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Post by Johnkenn on May 25, 2024 8:12:57 GMT -6
I appreciate cheap and cheerful
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Post by doubledog on May 25, 2024 8:19:24 GMT -6
It's great news for the home hobbyist (who wants gear that looks cool and doesn't yet know the sound difference vs the real thing). It's not really intended for pro studios, but will end up in a few (at least for a short time) nonetheless. Same as Warm and other inexpensive clones. For me, sometimes it's a placeholder until I can afford - or maybe justify - having the real thing, or a better copy. And sometimes they still work great (even if they sound nothing like the unit they are trying to look like). I have one of the 2A-KT (with a few mods) and I use it quite a bit. I'll bet it sounds nothing like a real LA-2A (and I do not have one to test side by side) but I don't have quite enough clientele right now to justify a $3500 comp so I got this KT for $200.  |
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Post by thehightenor on May 25, 2024 9:25:03 GMT -6
It's great news for the home hobbyist (who wants gear that looks cool and doesn't yet know the sound difference vs the real thing). It's not really intended for pro studios, but will end up in a few (at least for a short time) nonetheless. Same as Warm and other inexpensive clones. For me, sometimes it's a placeholder until I can afford - or maybe justify - having the real thing, or a better copy. And sometimes they still work great (even if they sound nothing like the unit they are trying to look like). I have one of the 2A-KT (with a few mods) and I use it quite a bit. I'll bet it sounds nothing like a real LA-2A (and I do not have one to test side by side) but I don't have quite enough clientele right now to justify a $3500 comp so I got this KT for $200. This is where Audioscape have done something very clever imho. For $1000 you get an LA2A clone that you may well prefer to a UA RI LA2A .... I know I did when I compared them! |
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Post by chessparov on May 25, 2024 12:50:36 GMT -6
Cheap and cheerful. There’s always been a market for cheap and cheerful. Unless Uli sees your "not so positive review" online. And then takes lethal-ahem-legal action on it.  LOL! Are those rumors really true? (Now making the popcorn) Chris |
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Post by thehightenor on May 25, 2024 13:45:12 GMT -6
I appreciate cheap and cheerful I do too .... but usually in reference to food Nothing like fish and chips, mushy peas and a cup of tea. Yummy. |
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Post by Johnkenn on May 25, 2024 13:49:01 GMT -6
I appreciate cheap and cheerful I do too .... but usually in reference to food Nothing like fish and chips, mushy peas and a cup of tea. Yummy. I like my music mushy and cheap |
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Post by okcrecording on May 25, 2024 13:58:49 GMT -6
I do too .... but usually in reference to food Nothing like fish and chips, mushy peas and a cup of tea. Yummy. I like my music mushy and cheap  |
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Post by ericn on May 25, 2024 15:46:31 GMT -6
I do too .... but usually in reference to food Nothing like fish and chips, mushy peas and a cup of tea. Yummy. I like my music mushy and cheap You like others people’s music cheap and would prefer yours not priced that way😁 |
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Post by Ward on May 25, 2024 17:28:27 GMT -6
oh boy
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Post by chessparov on May 25, 2024 18:16:58 GMT -6
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Post by tkaitkai on May 25, 2024 18:17:44 GMT -6
Kinda surprising they would do this under the Behringer name instead of KT. Not that it really matters of course. If someone uses this stuff to make cool music, more power to them.
A budget 33609 is pretty tempting to be completely honest. But this does make me wonder about the state of cheaper clone gear. Originally, clones would get you in the sonic ballpark of the original for a fraction of the cost. I kind of wonder if modern clone makers have lost sight of that in favor of marketing gaudy pieces to people who don’t know any better.
Like maybe on the low end, it would actually be better to just stick with boring workhorse stuff like KSM32s, AT condensers, SM7s, etc.
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Post by ericn on May 25, 2024 18:31:09 GMT -6
Kinda surprising they would do this under the Behringer name instead of KT. Not that it really matters of course. If someone uses this stuff to make cool music, more power to them. A budget 33609 is pretty tempting to be completely honest. But this does make me wonder about the state of cheaper clone gear. Originally, clones would get you in the sonic ballpark of the original for a fraction of the cost. I kind of wonder if modern clone makers have lost sight of that in favor of marketing gaudy pieces to people who don’t know any better. Like maybe on the low end, it would actually be better to just stick with boring workhorse stuff like KSM32s, AT condensers, SM7s, etc. This is but a theory, in their market research the fine folks at Music Group have found something very unexpected that contradicts their original plan of what to do with KT. The target market for the MG clones identified with Behringer more than KT and are were more likely to blindly order a Behringer. In other words at the price someone will order it if it says Behringer, but if it says KT I’m going to have to invest time actually selling it. |
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