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Post by nick8801 on May 16, 2024 5:46:22 GMT -6
Didn't even watch yet, but this is unexpected!
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Post by nick8801 on May 16, 2024 6:21:09 GMT -6
Ok, gave it a listen....sounds pretty good in the examples. Maybe a little grabbier than the real thing, but for like 479 bux? This is really cool.
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Post by gravesnumber9 on May 16, 2024 7:14:22 GMT -6
Interesting. Even the "behringer" logo is much more subdued. They clearly know that the market for this doesn't want to be buying Behringer products. If this was the 1960's they'd have full page ads with a housewife in the kitchen saying "Shhh... don't tell him it's a Behringer!"
Actually, they should do that. You're welcome Behringer, that one's free.
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Post by Johnkenn on May 16, 2024 7:14:42 GMT -6
Immediate buy
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Post by Johnkenn on May 16, 2024 7:15:53 GMT -6
Seriously. Where can I order?
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Post by Quint on May 16, 2024 7:18:53 GMT -6
My biggest worry with this would maybe be the noise. Diode bridges are a little noisier to begin with, and I could see that maybe being an issue with this Behringer box.
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Post by gravesnumber9 on May 16, 2024 7:29:54 GMT -6
Seriously. Where can I order? Well it looked like it was in stock at Thomann, but by the time I brought up the checkout it was already backordered. |
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Post by gravesnumber9 on May 16, 2024 7:31:00 GMT -6
My biggest worry with this would maybe be the noise. Diode bridges are a little noisier to begin with, and I could see that maybe being an issue with this Behringer box. Even my RND 535's are on the noisy side. You're not wrong. |
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Post by Dan on May 16, 2024 7:36:04 GMT -6
My biggest worry with this would maybe be the noise. Diode bridges are a little noisier to begin with, and I could see that maybe being an issue with this Behringer box. it has to reduce the signal to a very low level to use the diode as a variable resistor. Also diode matching is important to avoid the thump and resultant total emulsification of the low end. |
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Post by nick8801 on May 16, 2024 7:38:48 GMT -6
Yeah, Thomann had them this morning. I'm gonna be patient on this one. 479 is cheap, but if it sucks, it's a waste. This is my favorite compressor though. I use the UAD on almost every mix. I'd love to have something at least similar to that in the analog domain.
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Post by Johnkenn on May 16, 2024 7:41:18 GMT -6
Yeah, Thomann had them this morning. I'm gonna be patient on this one. 479 is cheap, but if it sucks, it's a waste. This is my favorite compressor though. I use the UAD on almost every mix. I'd love to have something at least similar to that in the analog domain. I’m waiting on the Stam…but this is a good insurance policy. At least for any use this year. (Snap) |
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Post by nick8801 on May 16, 2024 7:44:17 GMT -6
Yeah, Thomann had them this morning. I'm gonna be patient on this one. 479 is cheap, but if it sucks, it's a waste. This is my favorite compressor though. I use the UAD on almost every mix. I'd love to have something at least similar to that in the analog domain. I’m waiting on the Stam…but this is a good insurance policy. At least for any use this year. (Snap) Or years.... |
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Post by Johnkenn on May 16, 2024 7:45:44 GMT -6
It’s part of the game I guess…but that Stam is certainly excellent.
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Post by ericn on May 16, 2024 7:46:27 GMT -6
Yeah, Thomann had them this morning. I'm gonna be patient on this one. 479 is cheap, but if it sucks, it's a waste. This is my favorite compressor though. I use the UAD on almost every mix. I'd love to have something at least similar to that in the analog domain. I’m waiting on the Stam…but this is a good insurance policy. At least for any use this year. (Snap) Ask any dealer, Behringer has the same delivery issues as Stam, only bigger. |
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Post by svart on May 16, 2024 7:57:09 GMT -6
My biggest worry with this would maybe be the noise. Diode bridges are a little noisier to begin with, and I could see that maybe being an issue with this Behringer box. Having built a 33609/2254, the biggest issue would be calibration and potential drift. It's hard to get these things calibrated correctly. Did you see all those pots on the board in the video? There's like a dozen pots that need to be set and a lot of them can only be set in a certain order or it won't work. I'd fear that the cheapness would eventually show up in parts drifting in tolerance and the calibration going out of whack. It's possible they scaled the circuit values to mitigate how touchy the pot settings are, but I doubt it. |
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Post by thirdeye on May 16, 2024 8:20:42 GMT -6
Surprised they didn't do this fully under the Klark Teknik name.
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Post by doubledog on May 16, 2024 8:23:10 GMT -6
They even beat Warm to the punch on this one! Looks interesting though. I get along with my modded 2A-KT.
I noticed the 369-KT designation - so does that mean they fully absorbed KT now and only put B on new products?
edit - now that's strange - the actual Behringer site has it only as "369" and not as "369-KT" so it seems like maybe they changed the name at the last minute while place like Thomann - and even the purple site - still had 369-KT on websites
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Post by andersmv on May 16, 2024 9:44:00 GMT -6
I thought the limiter was after the compressor on the original? Interesting that they decided to put the limiter first, I'm actually kind of intrigued as it's one of the things I always wished you could switch the order on with the originals.
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Post by ericn on May 16, 2024 9:47:15 GMT -6
Seriously. Where can I order? Call your Sweetwater rep, as the US distributior they will see them first. |
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Post by Blackdawg on May 16, 2024 9:59:59 GMT -6
Actually sounds good.
Also, they did the one thing that I wish everyone would do. Stepped controls across the board. The threshold was even stepped. You can hear it clicking. Even if it's just a fancy potentiometer it's better than nothing.
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Post by Ward on May 16, 2024 10:16:12 GMT -6
Can Warm's version (clone) of the B-word reproduction (clone) be that far behind?
Not my words, but those of a leading designer in the Pro Audio community (not Paul Wolfe but he would likely say the same thing)
"The cheap and rip-off clone market is a disease to the audio industry.
Kudos to those who at least try to be something a little different or unique."
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Post by kcatthedog on May 16, 2024 10:37:41 GMT -6
Can Warm's version (clone) of the B-word reproduction (clone) be that far behind? Not my words, but those of a leading designer in the Pro Audio community (not Paul Wolfe but he would likely say the same thing) "The cheap and rip-off clone market is a disease to the audio industry. Kudos to those who at least try to be something a little different or unique." Oh please, most peeps who buy the cheaper clones are either never going to buy high end gear or are just starting out, so buying on price/value proposition. I don’t think the clones take any sales away from high end pieces, cus those buyers would either never or be unlikely to buy the clone. Really two different markets, cost/value propositions and buyers. If you’ve been using plug ins, like UA’s but wanted to step up your game but didn’t have upwards of $1500 US ti spend on say a Stam, here you can try something much more affordably and see. |
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Post by ragan on May 16, 2024 10:56:45 GMT -6
Oh dude I will buy this
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Post by ragan on May 16, 2024 11:10:14 GMT -6
Up to each of us individually to decide when we value smaller, more handcrafted things and when we're ok with mass production. My studio is full of all kinds of gear pedigrees that reflect my priorities, my tastes, and my budget.
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Post by kcatthedog on May 16, 2024 11:32:57 GMT -6
It’s great to have choices.
Clones are made to different price points, ie, there’s a part’s cost-reason say a Flea mike costs what it costs vs a much less expensive clone.
Something, I would like to see is an analysis of parts costs in constant dollars for some classic gear vs modern clones.
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