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Post by indiehouse on Jun 14, 2024 15:17:47 GMT -6
I feel it is a bit meh. I can put an emphasis deemphasis EQ on Satin and get a better bump result. Since I already got Satin, I won't buy it. I don’t have Satin, but I’ve got a plethera of tape and saturation plugs. I keep hearing good things about this plugin, but I’ve also got GREAT hardware that gives me saturation too. |
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Post by indiehouse on Jun 14, 2024 15:19:04 GMT -6
I’m really trying to be more conservative in my audio purchases as I’ve already got a lot of software and hardware.
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Post by itzprime on Jun 15, 2024 1:36:39 GMT -6
I feel it is a bit meh. I can put an emphasis deemphasis EQ on Satin and get a better bump result. Since I already got Satin, I won't buy it. I don’t have Satin, but I’ve got a plethera of tape and saturation plugs. I keep hearing good things about this plugin, but I’ve also got GREAT hardware that gives me saturation too. If you already got several, no reason to buy it |
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Post by mistertibbs on Aug 17, 2024 20:06:24 GMT -6
Having extensively tested the MixHead plug in vs the software in the SPL Machine Head 1U hardware, they are definitely not the same.
Unfortunately.
Hardware is better. Special.
At three different settings, I compared them and created files and sent the files to Rick and he didn't care
They continue to say that it's an accurate recreation of the SPL hardware based software ... and it's just not.
Plus they didn't pay SPL for use of the look and the hard work they claim falsely to have copied.
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Post by phantom on Aug 18, 2024 8:52:41 GMT -6
Having extensively tested the MixHead plug in vs the software in the SPL Machine Head 1U hardware, they are definitely not the same. Unfortunately. Hardware is better. Special. At three different settings, I compared them and created files and sent the files to Rick and he didn't care They continue to say that it's an accurate recreation of the SPL hardware based software ... and it's just not. Plus they didn't pay SPL for use of the look and the hard work they claim falsely to have copied. Thanks for making an account just to tell us this. This is what I call commitment. |
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Post by phantom on Aug 18, 2024 11:05:33 GMT -6
That's another developer that will never come to this forum.
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Post by nomatic on Aug 18, 2024 19:06:31 GMT -6
The plug-in sounds great...
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Post by bgrotto on Aug 18, 2024 19:58:47 GMT -6
Having extensively tested the MixHead plug in vs the software in the SPL Machine Head 1U hardware, they are definitely not the same. Unfortunately. Hardware is better. Special. At three different settings, I compared them and created files and sent the files to Rick and he didn't care They continue to say that it's an accurate recreation of the SPL hardware based software ... and it's just not. Plus they didn't pay SPL for use of the look and the hard work they claim falsely to have copied. This is an excellent way to inflate the price of the hardware! 🤣 |
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Post by veggieryan on Aug 18, 2024 21:17:33 GMT -6
Having extensively tested the MixHead plug in vs the software in the SPL Machine Head 1U hardware, they are definitely not the same. Unfortunately. Hardware is better. Special. At three different settings, I compared them and created files and sent the files to Rick and he didn't care They continue to say that it's an accurate recreation of the SPL hardware based software ... and it's just not. Plus they didn't pay SPL for use of the look and the hard work they claim falsely to have copied. Thanks for making an account just to tell us this. This is what I call commitment. LOL... ok SPL, it's pretty hard to feel sorry for you when you had decades to make your own plugin if you actually cared... |
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Post by mistertibbs on Aug 18, 2024 21:52:47 GMT -6
Just found out about this forum, and I am not a plug in maker. The files comparing the plug to the hardware/software are available on the link tree of my IG: Magic Garden Mastering The plug in has phase issues, thin on the bottom and bright in the midrange I wanted it to be the same, it's not.
The responses here are sadly typical of the internet ... assumptions.
When I said I made files that was your first clue.
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Post by mistertibbs on Aug 18, 2024 22:09:22 GMT -6
Thanks for making an account just to tell us this. This is what I call commitment. My commitment level is unmatched ... test and test and test.
I made the post because Make Believe is living in the land of Make Believe and when I took the time to make them files they didn't care.
Not to mention how rudely he treated SPL to boot.
I was really hoping they did what they said they did, sadly no.
I was thinking this board might have the caliber of people who want to know the truth.
Compare the files for yourself. There are 3 of each setting as the effect is at the beginning of the analog chain.
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Post by drbill on Aug 18, 2024 22:16:59 GMT -6
Just found out about this forum, <snip>
Brian Lucey Hi Brian! Welcome!! |
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Post by Dan on Aug 18, 2024 23:44:39 GMT -6
Just found out about this forum, and I am not a plug in maker. The files comparing the plug to the hardware/software are available on the link tree of my IG: Magic Garden Mastering The plug in has phase issues, thin on the bottom and bright in the midrange I wanted it to be the same, it's not.
The responses here are sadly typical of the internet ... assumptions.
When I said I made files that was your first clue.
Brian Lucey hi brian i remember you from gearslutz reccing those speakers. Don’t buy it. Make Believe don’t care. They have ridiculous marketing claiming daw developers can’t do basic floating point math, that a decramped direct form or transposed direct form eq with an aliased wave shaping function is analog, and claims that they invented black box modeling. Don’t buy this stuff unless you think it sounds cool. It’s physically impossible for it to sound the same as the hardware which used Motorola 56k chips even if it had the same algorithms which it might not. They don’t perform math in the same way as modern cpus. The same as all the reverb emulations. They’d have to write a new algorithm. Just don’t buy it. Buy something native or something that can be ported like the Weiss or lexicon pcm native or uadx. For tape you have the flexible u-he satin, the cartoony but cool softube and goodhertz plugs, the super cool tdr high frequency limiter in limiter 6 (relative, insane, less than 1 off), the pro audio dsp dsm, and just a dynamic high frequency shelf in something like nova or arbiter. Dan |
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Post by christophert on Aug 19, 2024 2:10:55 GMT -6
I got it. It does not sound amazing - only OK, and as mentioned a little brittle and the low end is lacking. I don't do OK anymore. so much hype  |
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Post by mistertibbs on Aug 19, 2024 4:58:43 GMT -6
I got it. It does not sound amazing - only OK, and as mentioned a little brittle and the low end is lacking. I don't do OK anymore. so much hype Yes, you've heard the problems. The hardware is not thin and it doesn't have that weird brightness ... to my ears it's a phase problem, but that's just a guess. I am not a plug-in developer and I don't have the exact reason that it's not happening, but it's not the hardware does something ive never heard. It's not exactly a tape sound. It's more like what we might imagine tape to be in our minds. The good stuff of tape without the bad stuff. unfortunately the plug is not something I could use even more unfortunate was the attitude that I got from Rick I was hoping that I could share with him files that illuminated the problem and that they might take the time to remedy them Not interested Then later discovered the attitude that he gave SPL The world is full of Con Men we don't need them in Audio by the same token if it's something that you like, go for it, but it's definitely not doing what the hardware does. |
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Post by Quint on Aug 19, 2024 7:43:13 GMT -6
I got it. It does not sound amazing - only OK, and as mentioned a little brittle and the low end is lacking. I don't do OK anymore. so much hype Yes, you've heard the problems. The hardware is not thin and it doesn't have that weird brightness ... to my ears it's a phase problem, but that's just a guess. I am not a plug-in developer and I don't have the exact reason that it's not happening, but it's not the hardware does something ive never heard. It's not exactly a tape sound. It's more like what we might imagine tape to be in our minds. The good stuff of tape without the bad stuff. unfortunately the plug is not something I could use even more unfortunate was the attitude that I got from Rick I was hoping that I could share with him files that illuminated the problem and that they might take the time to remedy them Not interested Then later discovered the attitude that he gave SPL The world is full of Con Men we don't need them in Audio by the same token if it's something that you like, go for it, but it's definitely not doing what the hardware does. Hey Brian. Welcome to RGO. I don't have a dog in the fight over the accuracy of the MixHead. But in regards to some of the initial responses you received here, I'd just chalk it up to RGO tending to be more skeptical/discerning about these sort of things. Throw in a brand new account, and... So that was just the usual antibodies kicking in.  In any case, once it became apparent who you were, I'd think that those initial concerns expressed by some would cease. I'll check out the sound files you created. Thanks for doing that. Glad to see that you've joined RGO. |
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Post by bgrotto on Aug 19, 2024 8:38:32 GMT -6
The world is full of Con Men we don't need them in Audio. I couldn’t agree more, and I reckon you’d find the users of this board would agree. Which is precisely why a new anonymous account’s first post was met with skepticism (and I hope you recognize: a light dose of humorous ribbing). |
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