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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 22, 2024 8:58:55 GMT -6
Or should I have just asked for best religion? Lol. There are a couple Bricasti threads popping up and it made me think of this. What’s everyone’s favorite reverb plug? Are there some that are far sonically superior to each other?
If you threw more computer processing at a reverb, does that equal better sounding? It would be cool if someone came out with “The Plate: the only plate you’ll ever need because it’s the only plugin your computer can run.” I’m joking, but you get my question?
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Post by easyrider on Apr 22, 2024 9:30:33 GMT -6
Lexicon PCM native bundle
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Post by doubledog on Apr 22, 2024 9:46:52 GMT -6
Superplate is cool. if I don't have to worry about CPU (or DSP) then UAD Capitol Chambers is great too (for a lot of things). I could never live with just one reverb now. The cat is already out of the bag.
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Post by 79sg on Apr 22, 2024 9:56:10 GMT -6
Liquidsonics Cinematic Rooms Professional and Liquidsonics Tai Chi.
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Post by Dan on Apr 22, 2024 10:08:13 GMT -6
Hi-fi: Tai Chi, ApVerb, Sonsig Rev-A, Cinematic Rooms make most earlier verbs sound crappy and metallic. Including all the Lexicons and the Valhallas. You cannot get that darkness from the Relab LX480, the Lexicon PCM Native bundles, or VVV.
Lo-fi: Megaverb, Tai Chi, SP2016, EMT 2445, Mangledverb
Springs: Tens, Twangstrom, VRev-63 just to kick it.
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Post by nas on Apr 22, 2024 10:47:22 GMT -6
Liquid Sonics Seventh Heaven Pro. Great sounding and very versatile. It would me my desert island reverb.
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Post by nnajar on Apr 22, 2024 10:58:39 GMT -6
quantum evolution got me fully ITB. it sounds nothing like the bricasti, but it can do the job of the bricasti in my workflow, and it's really versatile. I can use it as the only reverb pretty easily, generally 3 or 4 instances, but I also occasionally reach for eventide 2016, DDMF magic reverb and a few things in oxford reverb I like very well for specific uses.
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Post by gravesnumber9 on Apr 22, 2024 11:21:02 GMT -6
Liquid Sonics Seventh Heaven Pro. Great sounding and very versatile. It would me my desert island reverb. Slowly but surely Seventh Heaven is appealing to my lazy side and I find myself more and more saying "Seventh Heaven will work here". I wish I had more cause to use the UAD Lexicon verbs. I love how they sound (child of the 80's I guess?) but I don't really do much music where they work all that well. |
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Post by notneeson on Apr 22, 2024 11:26:25 GMT -6
I think I prefer variety here, haven't found anything that always works. I still like:
Izoptope Neoverb, IK Sunset, Valhalla Vintage Verb, CLA Epic & Little Plate. Probably forgetting something.
Have not figured out a use for the Fuse spring reverb yet. It sounds cool in solo and never beats the above in a mix. It's probably a me problem.
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Post by 80hz on Apr 22, 2024 11:27:49 GMT -6
Re: the Seventh Heaven plugin emulating Bricasti reverbs, can anyone share any knowledge on the difference between using this plugin versus running Bricasti IRs from an IR plugin like Waves IR-L or Convology XT in terms of quality and sonics?
I get that the tweakble parameters are more limited with an IR loader plugin but more curious about fidelity if all parameters are matched?
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 22, 2024 11:29:42 GMT -6
I’ve got a lot of these, just wondering if there had been some big step in reverb plugins I didn’t know about.
I mostly use UAD EMT140 - just from familiarity and I tend to get the results I’m looking for. I should probably grab Abbey Roads Plates again because when it works, it sounds great. Same could be said for the Arturia 140.
I’ve got Superplate - and I just can’t seem to bond with it. I don’t really love any of the actual plate sounds they offer…you can tweak…but I’ve also had a situation where I thought it sounded the best. 🤷♂️
Always heard people rave about the Acustica reverbs, but never really thought they particularly sounded any better.
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Post by nick8801 on Apr 22, 2024 11:30:06 GMT -6
I've yet to find a reverb plugin that I completely love. I always feel like they never really give me that sense of natural space that I'm looking for. However, in my mix only in Reaper experiment the other week, I used Reaper's stock convolution Reaverb. It actually sounds really great! Like, I wasn't even thinking about it. Just put it on because I wasn't allowing myself to use anything else. As I'm sending tracks to the verb, I'm like, wow...this is actually really fantastic! Not a whole lot of control, but man, it actually sounds really good! I guess it's not the best ever, but still worth looking into if you use Reaper. Back when I used to have the Slate subscription, I found his Bricati emulation pretty good. But I stopped paying for that a long time ago!
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 22, 2024 11:31:39 GMT -6
Re: the Seventh Heaven plugin emulating Bricasti reverbs, can anyone share any knowledge on the difference between using this plugin versus running Bricasti IRs from an IR plugin like Waves IR-L or Convology XT in terms of quality and sonics? I get that the tweakble parameters are more limited with an IR loader plugin but more curious about fidelity if all parameters are matched? I downloaded the new Bicasti samplicity one. Need to go through it and compare to 7H. I did get to try it for like 10 minutes and several presets were completely different sounding…hmmm |
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 22, 2024 11:33:35 GMT -6
I've yet to find a reverb plugin that I completely love. I always feel like they never really give me that sense of natural space that I'm looking for. However, in my mix only in Reaper experiment the other week, I used Reaper's stock convolution Reaverb. It actually sounds really great! Like, I wasn't even thinking about it. Just put it on because I wasn't allowing myself to use anything else. As I'm sending tracks to the verb, I'm like, wow...this is actually really fantastic! Not a whole lot of control, but man, it actually sounds really good! I guess it's not the best ever, but still worth looking into if you use Reaper. Back when I used to have the Slate subscription, I found his Bricati emulation pretty good. But I stopped paying for that a long time ago! Oh yeah - forgot about his Verb. The black one with the Bricasti IRs…that was just rhe Samplicity IRs, right? |
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Post by bossanova on Apr 22, 2024 11:34:48 GMT -6
Kind of a cheat but…Reverberate 3 with the factory sets (inc 224, 480, and M7 IRs) is hard to beat. I have a lot of 3rd party banks but one could/should be able to mix a whole track with just the included options.
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Post by bossanova on Apr 22, 2024 11:41:46 GMT -6
Re: the Seventh Heaven plugin emulating Bricasti reverbs, can anyone share any knowledge on the difference between using this plugin versus running Bricasti IRs from an IR plugin like Waves IR-L or Convology XT in terms of quality and sonics? I get that the tweakble parameters are more limited with an IR loader plugin but more curious about fidelity if all parameters are matched? They’re all captured using LS’s “Fusion” IR process which samples at multiple points and supposedly preserves some of the modulation and true stereo information. I think Seventh Heaven also has multiple lengths for each patch combined with their length/stretch controls (all folded into one knob for the UI) to cover all the delay times you could want. The free Bricasti IRs are one length for each program. I *think* the Fusion IRs sound better at the same decays, but I don’t know if I could pick it out blind. |
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Post by Martin John Butler on Apr 22, 2024 12:41:29 GMT -6
Seventh Heaven in general. I use the EMT-140 for a certain vibe, and if it's right, nothing else beats it. The Relab XL480 is still excellent, but I use it less and less since Seventh Heaven became available.
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Post by jmoose on Apr 22, 2024 13:03:54 GMT -6
Or should I have just asked for best religion? Lol. There are a couple Bricasti threads popping up and it made me think of this. What’s everyone’s favorite reverb plug? Are there some that are far sonically superior to each other? If you threw more computer processing at a reverb, does that equal better sounding? It would be cool if someone came out with “The Plate: the only plate you’ll ever need because it’s the only plugin your computer can run.” I’m joking, but you get my question? If what your after is a "real plate" it doesn't get any closer or better then the UAD 140. I've had the experience... and also talked w/ David Torn who did the same thing at Allaire... I was at the Phish Barn in VT & electric lady... of putting the UAD 140 on a pair of channels next to the real thing and you just can't tell them apart. Not for love of anything. So how much closer can it get then "indistinguishable" ? None. None more close. Same experience with the UAD 224 btw. Can't reliably... side by side pick it from the hardware. Briscasti ? That's a different kind of verb. Haven't come across anything that sounds 'as real' as that one. And by "real" I mean something that actually sounds like a physical room. Its like there's a little construction crew in there that'll build whatever kind of space you want. Cool trick! None of the plug stuff... various IR's sound even nearly as good to me. Too easy to sound like a Borg assimilation or someone dropping a bag of BB's in a bowling alley. But that's a whole different sound then 'lexicon' reverb. Lex reverb sounds like Lex reverb. Thick. Dense. And always with a bit of modulation... aka spin & wander. Love lex reverb. Its a great sound but its not a realistic sound. Has anyone ever stood in a real hall that sounds like a Lex hall? Nope! |
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Post by veggieryan on Apr 22, 2024 13:14:18 GMT -6
I must say I disagree.... I can pick out my real EMT-140 versus the UAD 140 easily... it's not even remotely close. I would venture to say the UAD 140 is embarrassingly long in the tooth compared to newer plugins like Soundtoys Superplate. Sadly even the best plate plugins or digital rack units may never be able to match a real plate reverb. Even with 10 times the current cpu power it just may not be possible.
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Post by thehightenor on Apr 22, 2024 13:34:19 GMT -6
Currently my
…. “And now it sounds like a record”
Reverb plugin is
Hitsville Chambers.
Absolutely stunning plugin imho.
After that I have another 20+ to choose from.
I’m never buying another one. Ever!
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Post by thehightenor on Apr 22, 2024 13:36:33 GMT -6
I must say I disagree.... I can pick out my real EMT-140 versus the UAD 140 easily... it's not even remotely close. I would venture to say the UAD 140 is embarrassingly long in the tooth compared to newer plugins like Soundtoys Superplate. Sadly even the best plate plugins or digital rack units may never be able to match a real plate reverb. Even with 10 times the current cpu power it just may not be possible. I’ve never heard any digital device sound like an actual plate reverb. Funny that  Same as I’ve ever heard a tape plugin sound like actual tape. With some things it’s simply a case of the fact is a mechanical device as opposed to 0’s and 1 ‘s |
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Post by veggieryan on Apr 22, 2024 13:38:55 GMT -6
I’m never buying another one. Ever! If Mixwave makes an EMT-140 plugin of the caliber of their Coil Audio CA-70S plugin I will be buying it immediately. BTW: place the Coil Audio CA-70S plugin before or after your reverb plugin to make it sound less "plugin-ish" |
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Post by thehightenor on Apr 22, 2024 14:01:26 GMT -6
I’m never buying another one. Ever! If Mixwave makes an EMT-140 plugin of the caliber of their Coil Audio CA-70S plugin I will be buying it immediately. BTW: place the Coil Audio CA-70S plugin before or after your reverb plugin to make it sound less "plugin-ish" I’ve got a hardware CA-70s and I thought the plugin was quite good, it had some of the vibe in a “plugin” kinda way. |
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Post by veggieryan on Apr 22, 2024 14:05:36 GMT -6
I have a rack of CA-70's and yes the plugin has some of the vibe using the CA-70 as a line level device. Nothing can touch or come close to how a real CA-70 interacts with a real passive ribbon mic as a mic pre... that jaw dropping tonality, depth, space, dynamics, etc etc.... of course, but that is to be expected.
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 22, 2024 15:33:50 GMT -6
Currently my …. “And now it sounds like a record” Reverb plugin is Hitsville Chambers. Absolutely stunning plugin imho. After that I have another 20+ to choose from. I’m never buying another one. Ever! Man...I can't find a single use for it that beats out what I already use stuff for...the tails aren't very long. It might be that it's so colored that makes me never choose it - well, I haven't opened it in a while, so maybe I need to check again. |
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