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Post by christopher on Mar 23, 2024 11:33:08 GMT -6
Beesneez studio series would be what I recommend to anyone for LDC in that price range. I haven’t used them, so I don’t really know. However I have used plenty of $200-$500 condensors and none of them leave me satisfied, instead depressed. (It’s bad logic to save 1/4 of a paycheck in money, and be depressed for years about how you sound). I think the BN cheap Fet mics at least have potential to be its own thing in a pro way? I’m kinda excited by that aspect.
Otherwise.. Beyer, EV mics.. maybe a Serrano 84
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Post by chessparov on Mar 23, 2024 11:38:57 GMT -6
I might take my 'lil Elly out tomorrow to record.
But we're supposed to get rain.
I tend to take out my 2nd String stuff out then.
AKG P120/Oktava 219/original Telefunken Elam C12...
Chris
P.S. Brief informal "one take" below.
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Post by Dan on Mar 23, 2024 11:51:03 GMT -6
Yes I love my re16. It’s good on everything and is much higher fidelity than the current re20 and any ev635a. It sounds great on vocals, cabinets, and snares. Everything will be a bit woody but it would work. Yeah, I like the top end of the 11/16 way more than on the RE20 (of any vintage). The RE27 also has a better top end than the 20 to me, but it’s sort of at the edge of becoming a little harsh on some voices. It’s a good mic, though. Yeah the re20 top end isn’t as nice. The neodymium ev capsules fix the wooden timbre issue but the presence is off on a lot of things. They don’t sound as even. I really don’t like the pre eqed and cheap out mics or how the industry has gone so downhill. The ev branded Chinese mics are usually lol and they will use sm57 knockoffs or random Chinese mics that sound like crap. There’s a lot of apologizing and a lot of cope. Or there are good mics but like not really usable in a professional context because of low headroom like the Audix ldcs or a lot of the better Russian mics close up. Like yeah you can use them if you want a good take being unusable half the time. Then they soothe or rx everything literally (a lot of spoken word stuff needs to be nuked and once you hear it, you can hear they’ve been doing it ever since they got cedar and Izotope and the recording quality went down to match what they could do) or the entire cottage industry of distortion plugins and equipment to hide things or reamp and if you mix, you have to use them because what you get is crap. I shouldn’t have to soothe or irradiate anything. |
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Post by chessparov on Mar 23, 2024 12:07:45 GMT -6
Except the Savage Beast? Gets forgotten sometimes. But I dig EV 767a's. Over the New Coke-ahem-"replacement" N76 also. BTW I happened to bump into (literally) a very famous singer/songwriter. First name of "Bob". He's planning a Motown Tribute Album. It's unlikely you'll recognize his voice. But keep this "hush hush" (It's his Desire  ) I just happened to have my trusty 767a handy!  |
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Post by Shadowk on Mar 23, 2024 13:05:56 GMT -6
ISK is worth a look via Runway Pro Audio, shame they shut the factory down taking along with it some of the best tubes you can buy. They were made in the shuguang factory? I mean your stuff definitely had some of the cleanest top end of any Chinese mic I’ve heard. It still had the distorted Chinese low mids but they weren’t sea of mud, battle of Passchendaele like MXL or Alctron mics. small signal miniature tubes in guitar gear and certain pres probably cannot recover. The New Sensor tubes lack the warmth for the circuit designs and the psvane stuff is L O L despite the marketing. Yep, that’s why they’re out of production. Runway stocked up on them though, I bought a pair before the factory closed and got an option between Shuguang or PSVANE tubes. Guess which I went for? The clips I posted were of the MK1 but the MK2 is a lot better. Seriously I’ve found clearer mics but I’ve even tested it against a Josephson, my Tele Elam 251 and a U67. It still hangs in its own right, not bad for a 500 dollar mic. It’s a massive shame, despite the few that sung their praises they never really took off as a brand. I love them personally and I’m stull looking for a do all flagship but it’s the ISK’s who serve as a gatekeeper weirdly. On a side note I did like the 3U stuff, sorta Neumann and plenty good enough to do world class tracks with. I got the GZ67 Fet but I did always lean towards my well kept vintage U67 but when you consider the price I’m not sure many would have kept hold of the Neumann. |
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Post by theshea on Mar 23, 2024 14:57:14 GMT -6
Michael Joly MXL 990 Hulk: great mic. Is this the same capsule as the LDC cap he made for Oktava 012s? Wondering how it compares. I have one and desperately want a second. Very U67ish. The caps rarely come up for sale but I see those hulks way more often no, it was „New 3 micron diaphragm MJE-K47 capsule replaces stock SDC capsule for mid-focused "Neumann-esque" presence and sibilance-free top end with touch of sheen.“ it is more in the U87 vein. |
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Post by Ward on Mar 23, 2024 15:56:16 GMT -6
[…] Actually the M88 and the M88-ish AKG D790, usually worked best on me, out of all sub-$500 Dynamics.[…] Interesting. Is it M88-ish for vocals only, or on bass drum / floor tom duty as well? Simple rule of thumb: If it works for bass drum, it works for male vocal, especially baritone to bass. |
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Post by Ward on Mar 23, 2024 15:59:13 GMT -6
Is this the same capsule as the LDC cap he made for Oktava 012s? Wondering how it compares. I have one and desperately want a second. Very U67ish. The caps rarely come up for sale but I see those hulks way more often Not sure, but yeah - those 012's with LDC head baskets are seriously underrated. and that's exactly how I'd describe them - a solid state U67. No tube goodness, but voiced the same. <<thumbsup>>. I need to use mine more.... I have one with the 'Red C12' head - which is from BLUE microphones (RIP) It's a great mic for female voices and mandolin family instruments. |
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Post by Ward on Mar 23, 2024 16:00:14 GMT -6
Yes I love my re16. It’s good on everything and is much higher fidelity than the current re20 and any ev635a. It sounds great on vocals, cabinets, and snares. Everything will be a bit woody but it would work. Yeah, I like the top end of the 11/16 way more than on the RE20 (of any vintage). The RE27 also has a better top end than the 20 to me, but it’s sort of at the edge of becoming a little harsh on some voices. It’s a good mic, though. It's my absolute favorite dynamic, with GREAT EQ switches on it, giving you 6 mic variations in one beautiful microphone. |
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Post by chessparov on Mar 23, 2024 16:25:50 GMT -6
Interesting. Is it M88-ish for vocals only, or on bass drum / floor tom duty as well? Simple rule of thumb: If it works for bass drum, it works for male vocal, especially baritone to bass. So if it works for Shakers, it works on female voices? I heard they tried it on The Spice Girls. But the AE got in trouble with a salt. |
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Post by Ward on Mar 24, 2024 12:57:43 GMT -6
Simple rule of thumb: If it works for bass drum, it works for male vocal, especially baritone to bass. So if it works for Shakers, it works on female voices? I heard they tried it on The Spice Girls. But the AE got in trouble with a salt. Es possible . . . possible muy caliente |
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Post by chessparov on Mar 24, 2024 13:02:53 GMT -6
Muchas grassias! |
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