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Post by rowmat on Jan 7, 2024 16:16:50 GMT -6
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Post by seawell on Jan 7, 2024 17:30:09 GMT -6
When starting from nothing the initial growth rate is going to be impressive. Getting to a human level though, is not something it will achieve. At some point the growth will hit a wall and realize you can only get so far without a soul.
I can see a decent amount of people accepting lower quality because in many ways they already do(autotune/quantizing) but if you’re human and you’re in touch with your soul when you create you’ll be fine. Will AI create something more technically perfect? Probably, but I don’t think we’re wired to enjoy that any way.
The most useful example I’ve seen of AI so far is auditing works for plagiarism. Black & white stuff like…”is this the same as that?”…I think it can be very helpful. Data based stuff. Anything that requires judgment, nuance, compassion or creativity…no way. Not in a million years. That stuff doesn’t run on hardware or software, it runs on spirit & soul.
The same way when you’re young, everyone around you can tell you what to do and not to do but you have to experience things to really gain wisdom instead of just knowledge. All of those life lessons can be “input” into your mind through others but it only goes so far. There is no substitute for living and being alive.
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Post by drbill on Jan 7, 2024 18:22:57 GMT -6
One (albeit small) thing we could pass legislation about is forcing AI companies to disclose where they get their material to train their AIs in their machine learning processes. If rock composer AIs are being trained by "Don't Fear the Reaper," I personally believe donr should be compensated somehow. The tech companies are enriching themselves further by using material that they did not write or create. They should have to pay some type of licensing fee that currently does not exist. Your entire post was dead nuts on Mark, but to this part ^^^^ : it's already too late. Publishers, Music Libraries, Labels - ALL have been feeding the music they represent to AI tech companies. With virtually no compensation to composers / artists - mostly because it's so new that there is no real way to compensate logically. My music has been fed to AI companies, and I have yet to make any money off of it. If anything has shown itself to be true, our legislators will be woefully behind 20 years from now when it's beyond, beyond, and a lifetime BEYOND too late. Tech companies and those who manage musical content will get wealthy though. Same as it ever was,,,,,,,
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Post by rowmat on Jan 7, 2024 19:49:32 GMT -6
When people are surprised how quickly AI seems to have emerged it has been developing for decades.
The data collection model for training AI began in earnest once tech companies began offering ‘free’ cloud storage services around 10 years ago.
People uploading photos, music, video, documents etc were invariably unwittingly giving licence for their data to be used for AI training on top of the data already collected during their internet activity. Add to that the advent of the smart phone, smart watches, smart homes (full of smart devices) and smart cars connected to the ‘Internet of Things’.
Like it or not we are already under a somewhat of a digital control network which can determine for instance what individuals can or can ‘t access and see online based per upon their stored data profiles with the final stage being some kind of CBDC (Central Bank Digital Currency) linked to a digital ID, social credit score and a personal carbon allowance all implemented by AI using algorithms written by those who don’t have your best interests at heart.
At that point resistance will be futile less you want to still be able to eat and feed your family.
For those who have never seen 2001: A Space Odyssey a main theme was what happens when AI runs amok and it is more prescient now than it was when it was made more than half a century ago.
“Open the pod bay doors HAL/SIRI/ALEXA.”
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Post by drbill on Jan 7, 2024 20:03:50 GMT -6
When people are surprised how quickly AI seems to have emerged it has been developing for decades. The decades preceding the 2015-2020's have very little to do with AI's current growth. From the 1960s-2010 AI progress was essentially linear, then it became exponential through the 2010s, then in 2021/22 it became compoundingly exponential. The tech is literally changing faster than the industry can keep track of it. AI experts may speak of specific progress on the 6th, but then on the 17th of the month, they must research again, as significant progress has occurred in a couple of weeks. More progress has been made in the last year than the previous 50 years.
This exponential growth is because all tech progress in various fields is now compounding into a central "brain" so that other areas of research can take advantage of it. As opposed to medical research not affecting automotive engineering which is not affecting agriculture, etc.. Now everything is combining into a central brain or whatever you want to call it. Essentially that's how I understand it, but I'm about as far away from a tech expert as you can get. That's my layman's definition/understanding of why it's now gaining speed every day. It's not likely to slow down until something dramatic happens. If it in fact does.
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Post by rowmat on Jan 7, 2024 20:10:47 GMT -6
When people are surprised how quickly AI seems to have emerged it has been developing for decades. From the 1960s-2010 AI progress was essentially linear, then it became exponential through the 2010s, then in 2021/22 it became compoundingly exponential. The tech is literally changing faster than they can keep track of it. More progress has been made in the last year than the previous 50 years. As previously mentioned - “The data collection model for training AI began in earnest once tech companies began offering ‘free’ cloud storage services around 10 years ago.” But yes it is moving frighteningly fast. The concern is at what point AI becomes sentient and no longer requires human input? www.scientificamerican.com/article/google-engineer-claims-ai-chatbot-is-sentient-why-that-matters/
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Post by rowmat on Jan 7, 2024 20:20:29 GMT -6
Two other key factors in the effectiveness of AI is the increase in connection speeds and the ability to store vast amounts of data both of which have accelerated exponentially.
The ability to instigate AI operations in almost real time is a key factor.
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Post by viciousbliss on Jan 7, 2024 20:35:30 GMT -6
I just noticed that Matt Griffin/311 Institute now makes weekly Future News videos on Youtube. There's just too much to get into. Tech is exponential. It moves faster and the number of emerging technologies keeps growing. It's just a ton of info to keep track of and organize. Then take that and try to deduce possible timelines for maturation of various technologies. Inevitably things move too fast for us to follow and AI runs it all. Governments won't be able to just halt development. You do that and it opens the door for someone else to gain an edge. Once resource scarcity is a thing of the past, countries won't need to try and exploit each other. But until then, everyone has to participate in the AI arms race.
The big question to ask here is what are the consequences of AI for those of us engaged in audio? Loss of work, obviously. The audio world has been one of the first to lose work due to tech in the 21st century starting with Napster. I've heard automated consoles required less people in studios where previously several people had to turn knobs in real time. The DAW allowed for less personnel too, I've also read. AI seems to just be the latest development that can improve efficiency but also cut labor costs. Establishing a timeline of when AI will develop to a point where human engineers and performers are no longer needed is a good thing to focus on. But ultimately it depends on what the public is willing to pay for.
Going back to 1999, I was very surprised that people were willing to just download mp3s left and right. They didn't care that they were ripping off bands or listening to things with damaged fidelity. Streaming isn't much of an improvement. We could argue that streaming is worse because now anyone with something like $9.99 can access decades worth of music that would have cost hundreds of thousands of dollars and a herculean effort to acquire. Previously, consumers had to just buy what was available. If their vinyl or tape wore out or if they scratched up their cds, they had to obtain new copies. A lot of the time those were not convenient to obtain. So, they just bought something that was easily obtainable instead.
Finding new music that you want to listen to can be a task in itself. I have to wade through dozens and dozens of new releases to find one thing I may want to listen to. It feels like work. Then a ton more stuff comes out before I'm tired of what I just found. Previously record labels were gatekeepers of quality and radio and MTV were gatekeepers of public exposure. If the year is 1998, I know there's a good chance I'll like something on Nuclear Blast or Century Media. In 2005, I counted on Frontiers and MTM. Now we still have Frontiers and a couple labels, but the quality is a lot less consistent and the albums less distinct. There's also all sorts of releases from less established entities. Not a lot of it is breaking new ground, at least from things I follow. If anything, the quality of the writing and engineering keeps declining. The consumer doesn't need to chase new music. Therefore, the people who would hire us are not getting paid or are paid a lot less. Audio forums are full of posts concerning reduced budgets. A lot of new artists do stuff themselves out of necessity.
Legacy artists largely don't bother recording new material. The public is willing to pay exorbitant prices to see live shows that often involve backing tracks and occasionally even lip synching. The demand seems much higher for events than recordings. Much of this demand is fueled by social media and people wanting to post pictures of themselves at these events. Advertisers keep using music from the past. I'm not sure what their attitudes are concerning use of AI to create music for their marketing plans. I could see them designing an AI song that some algorithm has told them checks all the boxes. Why pay for "Don't Stop Believin" if you can generate a song for free that yields superior results? Record companies can make new AI music, but there has to be an audience for it. We all know that if it gets to the point where labels are generating their own music that consumers being able to do it won't be far behind.
Didn't some big music names just sell the rights to their writing methods to some label or other corporation for AI usage? I know this goes on in the worlds of banking and law. GPT4 already beats 90% of people at the bar exam. People I know have been approached to be the source of algorithms that could be used to analyze data. More and more paralegal type work is being automated. Perhaps everyone in every industry should have contingency plans lined up, but that isn't even realistic. We've had a problem with lack of new industries for years, if not decades. We still have a problem with bottlenecks where the 30 and 40 year old can't advance because 70 and 80 year olds still hold top positions.
The legal questions about copyright and AI are important. It's going to get into a lot of tricky nuances. Debates about who really owns what writing methods. Debates about how unique they really are. Lady Gaga never got sued by Madonna or the writers of "Don't Turn Around" as far as I'm aware. If that's considered acceptable, then AI creations that are highly derivative are also going to have to be considered legal.
Are we trying to reach some type of consensus opinion of what course of action to take at the moment? A very worthwhile discussion, but extremely complex. Governments are very reactive as Bill has indicated above. They will have to do something with the massive automation of jobs that's around the corner. I believe it was the WEF that forecasted that something like 50% of jobs would be automated by next year.
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Post by seawell on Jan 7, 2024 21:18:44 GMT -6
The WEF is forcasting the future that is in their best interest and again...no thanks.
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Post by viciousbliss on Jan 7, 2024 22:27:29 GMT -6
The WEF is forcasting the future that is in their best interest and again...no thanks. What's in the WEF's interest? Usually the only places I hear about the WEF are conspiracy-based sources who won't stand behind their claims whenever they are hauled into court. Whenever they talk about someone like Kurzweil, they start making things up, lie about what's in his books, etc. There's probably legit criticism out there, I just have to go looking for it. Either way, their forecast articles don't seem insidious or anything: www.weforum.org/press/2020/10/recession-and-automation-changes-our-future-of-work-but-there-are-jobs-coming-report-says-52c5162fce/I should see if there's a newer forecast. Dealing with Covid the way societies have been is not sustainable. This article seems to assume governments would still be taking mitigation measures going forward. Now with our current wave, every person who told me "covid is over" or whatever other piece of propaganda they repeated has dropped that idea. The denial may be ending. If no one can neutralize it soon, AI and robotics will have to take on a larger role out of necessity. Brauer did some videos for Puremix that I've seen some of. He was talking about the effect of Covid being that he doesn't do a lot of attended sessions anymore. It was quite interesting hearing him explain how that changed his whole method of working. Creativity is one of the skills the above article says will still be valued. Analytical thinking. Things that require the most intelligence and raw creative skill. A lot of audio work with music requires that. Post is probably a whole other ballgame. I guess it goes back to what the consumer wants. If we look at Metallica, they figured out that they didn't need to make these ultra-complicated songs and that something simpler would make more money. Then so many other similar bands followed suit.
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Post by seawell on Jan 7, 2024 22:54:43 GMT -6
The WEF is forcasting the future that is in their best interest and again...no thanks. What's in the WEF's interest? Usually the only places I hear about the WEF are conspiracy-based sources who won't stand behind their claims whenever they are hauled into court. Whenever they talk about someone like Kurzweil, they start making things up, lie about what's in his books, etc. There's probably legit criticism out there, I just have to go looking for it. Either way, their forecast articles don't seem insidious or anything: www.weforum.org/press/2020/10/recession-and-automation-changes-our-future-of-work-but-there-are-jobs-coming-report-says-52c5162fce/I should see if there's a newer forecast. Dealing with Covid the way societies have been is not sustainable. This article seems to assume governments would still be taking mitigation measures going forward. Now with our current wave, every person who told me "covid is over" or whatever other piece of propaganda they repeated has dropped that idea. The denial may be ending. If no one can neutralize it soon, AI and robotics will have to take on a larger role out of necessity. Brauer did some videos for Puremix that I've seen some of. He was talking about the effect of Covid being that he doesn't do a lot of attended sessions anymore. It was quite interesting hearing him explain how that changed his whole method of working. Creativity is one of the skills the above article says will still be valued. Analytical thinking. Things that require the most intelligence and raw creative skill. A lot of audio work with music requires that. Post is probably a whole other ballgame. I guess it goes back to what the consumer wants. If we look at Metallica, they figured out that they didn't need to make these ultra-complicated songs and that something simpler would make more money. Then so many other similar bands followed suit. Maintaining power…wealth and control…that is what is in their interest and they will hide behind anything they can scare people with because fear is one heck of a motivator and manipulative tool.
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Post by viciousbliss on Jan 7, 2024 23:34:26 GMT -6
What's in the WEF's interest? Usually the only places I hear about the WEF are conspiracy-based sources who won't stand behind their claims whenever they are hauled into court. Whenever they talk about someone like Kurzweil, they start making things up, lie about what's in his books, etc. There's probably legit criticism out there, I just have to go looking for it. Either way, their forecast articles don't seem insidious or anything: www.weforum.org/press/2020/10/recession-and-automation-changes-our-future-of-work-but-there-are-jobs-coming-report-says-52c5162fce/I should see if there's a newer forecast. Dealing with Covid the way societies have been is not sustainable. This article seems to assume governments would still be taking mitigation measures going forward. Now with our current wave, every person who told me "covid is over" or whatever other piece of propaganda they repeated has dropped that idea. The denial may be ending. If no one can neutralize it soon, AI and robotics will have to take on a larger role out of necessity. Brauer did some videos for Puremix that I've seen some of. He was talking about the effect of Covid being that he doesn't do a lot of attended sessions anymore. It was quite interesting hearing him explain how that changed his whole method of working. Creativity is one of the skills the above article says will still be valued. Analytical thinking. Things that require the most intelligence and raw creative skill. A lot of audio work with music requires that. Post is probably a whole other ballgame. I guess it goes back to what the consumer wants. If we look at Metallica, they figured out that they didn't need to make these ultra-complicated songs and that something simpler would make more money. Then so many other similar bands followed suit. Maintaining power…wealth and control…that is what is in their interest and they will hide behind anything they can scare people with because fear is one heck of a motivator and manipulative tool. What source can I read this in? I've read about the IMF in books like Confessions of an economic hitman. Read all sorts of CIA books. I know people can pretty much write anything because of the weak libel laws. I've actually watched hours of deposition videos of public figures who have been sued and you just see these guys crumple when the lawyers confront them with their lack of due diligence. Or they start pretending that their memory is worse than the worst Alzheimer's patient. The most hilarious is when they pretend that they don't know what an opinion is vs a statement of fact. Years ago I read some Bilderberg Group book, the Mark Dice Illuminati Facts and Fiction, something on Operation Gladio. Lots more. Since then so much has come out about factual info and disinfo. I've never really read about the WEF though and try to qualify whatever big pieces of info that I stumble upon. Here's Ace Frehley talking about AI recently: blabbermouth.net/news/ace-frehley-explains-why-he-hasnt-used-artificial-intelligence-during-songwriting-process
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Post by seawell on Jan 7, 2024 23:58:27 GMT -6
Maintaining power…wealth and control…that is what is in their interest and they will hide behind anything they can scare people with because fear is one heck of a motivator and manipulative tool. What source can I read this in? I've read about the IMF in books like Confessions of an economic hitman. Read all sorts of CIA books. I know people can pretty much write anything because of the weak libel laws. I've actually watched hours of deposition videos of public figures who have been sued and you just see these guys crumple when the lawyers confront them with their lack of due diligence. Or they start pretending that their memory is worse than the worst Alzheimer's patient. The most hilarious is when they pretend that they don't know what an opinion is vs a statement of fact. Years ago I read some Bilderberg Group book, the Mark Dice Illuminati Facts and Fiction, something on Operation Gladio. Lots more. Since then so much has come out about factual info and disinfo. I've never really read about the WEF though and try to qualify whatever big pieces of info that I stumble upon. Here's Ace Frehley talking about AI recently: blabbermouth.net/news/ace-frehley-explains-why-he-hasnt-used-artificial-intelligence-during-songwriting-process My opinion of the WEF is based on “watch what they do, not what they say.” 1,040 private jet flights in 1 week to a meeting of people that supposedly prioritize the environment as our most dangerous & immediate threat. So, 80% of the world’s population has never flown a single time but we’re supposed to get lectured by these rich folks that do more damage in one week than most will in their lifetime(while they also fly in hookers for $2,500 a pop but I digress..,). Once proven to be a hypocrite, I have a hard time taking direction on what the ideal future looks like from them. www.greenpeace.org/international/press-release/57867/hundreds-of-ultra-short-private-jet-flights-to-davos-world-economic-forum/Thanks for the Ace Frehley article. I can’t imagine how wild it has been for someone that broke into the business in the seventies to navigate what it has become now 🤯
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Post by viciousbliss on Jan 8, 2024 0:36:45 GMT -6
What source can I read this in? I've read about the IMF in books like Confessions of an economic hitman. Read all sorts of CIA books. I know people can pretty much write anything because of the weak libel laws. I've actually watched hours of deposition videos of public figures who have been sued and you just see these guys crumple when the lawyers confront them with their lack of due diligence. Or they start pretending that their memory is worse than the worst Alzheimer's patient. The most hilarious is when they pretend that they don't know what an opinion is vs a statement of fact. Years ago I read some Bilderberg Group book, the Mark Dice Illuminati Facts and Fiction, something on Operation Gladio. Lots more. Since then so much has come out about factual info and disinfo. I've never really read about the WEF though and try to qualify whatever big pieces of info that I stumble upon. Here's Ace Frehley talking about AI recently: blabbermouth.net/news/ace-frehley-explains-why-he-hasnt-used-artificial-intelligence-during-songwriting-process My opinion of the WEF is based on “watch what they do, not what they say.” 1,040 private jet flights in 1 week to a meeting of people that supposedly prioritize the environment as our most dangerous & immediate threat. So, 80% of the world’s population has never flown a single time but we’re supposed to get lectured by these rich folks that do more damage in one week than most will in their lifetime(while they also fly in hookers for $2,500 a pop but I digress..,). Once proven to be a hypocrite, I have a hard time taking direction on what the ideal future looks like from them. www.greenpeace.org/international/press-release/57867/hundreds-of-ultra-short-private-jet-flights-to-davos-world-economic-forum/Thanks for the Ace Frehley article. I can’t imagine how wild it has been for someone that broke into the business in the seventies to navigate what it has become now 🤯 A lot of these people probably have some sort personality disorder from the more antisocial types. So many of the powerful only care about themselves. Just a few of them could donate to a pet rescue or a kid's hospital and make a world of difference. We're talking about people where 100k is something like .2% of their net worth. Instead they go on Youtube or TV and ask their poor fans to donate. I'm always puzzled when someone famous who has famous friends starts a gofundme for a 50k medical procedure or something when their five best buddies have all made tens of millions of dollars. My IG feed is full of one pet rescue after another that struggle to raise $1500. One powerful person makes that in an hour or less. Even if they don't want to donate, they can cut 30 second videos or something. Reminds me of when I saw this Hamilton performance at the library when the musical was out. I believe it was Mrs. Hamilton who said that the poor pay what they can but the rich always stiff her. I'm not sure who writes the WEF forecasts, but it's just a forecast. It's recommending that employers, governments, and regular people all work together to tackle the issues that will arise from disruptive technologies. Seems innocuous enough. I always try to look at the message itself as opposed to relying a lot on who is giving it. Though a good leader will always try to have the moral high ground before asking stuff of others. A lot of psychopaths and sociopaths love to weasel their way into positions of power by lying. This diagnosed sociopath named Kanika divulges all her methods on Youtube. She is very insidious. But either way, I have no doubt that the powerful are gonna tell all of us to sacrifice while they hoard wealth and pollute the planet. Our society is becoming increasingly transactional and I'm always watching for that type of behavior whether it's someone like a politician or someone I've known forever. The interesting angle about technology is that eventually these people lose the monopoly on power. Nobody being in charge could seem a bit unsettling. Matt Griffin was just talking about something that would lead to the creation of artificial humans. There was that Singularity University doc made some years about where they were starting to print DNA with a laser printer I think it was. You have to wonder what sort of horrific things some sick psycho would do with tech like that. An AI would never try to replicate psychopathic behavior I'm hoping. Ace has always been into tech along with looking out for himself. Every book I've ever read about Kiss seems to paint them as four narcissists who never trusted each other. Ace and Peter were different because of the reckless and self-destructive stuff they'd get themselves into, especially the car accidents. The Into the Void book by Wendy Moore talks about Ace and his 90s tech. Apparently he had a whole computer setup very early on in the history of DAWs. Must've been 1996 or thereabouts. He'd bring it to the hotels during the tours.
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Post by bossanova on Jan 9, 2024 12:20:55 GMT -6
Back to something a little closer to the original topic, and not so much catastrophic as something that's clearly happening now. And this is from 7 years ago.
The full title is "We are building a dystopia just to make people click on ads."
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Post by Bob Olhsson on Jan 10, 2024 17:07:39 GMT -6
I think MIDI sequencing was the beginning! MIDI productions can be slick, but they are rarely as engaging as a group of real musicians playing together at the same time.
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Post by bluesholyman on Jan 10, 2024 17:44:18 GMT -6
And are you already seeing it/being affected by it? I know none of us has a crystal ball, but I thought I’d throw it out there anyways. Cheers, Geoff I'm a software engineer by trade, working to become a professional songwriter by night. My take on AI: - It will replace the easily repeatable and consistent human tasks and automate the boring stuff (driving, for example) - It cannot replace the unexpected randomness and happy mistakes that humans bring to the equation...not until its programmed to do so at least, and even then, it lacks humanity. - It will make the [true] arts more valuable.
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Post by chessparov on Jan 11, 2024 13:23:20 GMT -6
When people are surprised how quickly AI seems to have emerged it has been developing for decades. The decades preceding the 2015-2020's have very little to do with AI's current growth. From the 1960s-2010 AI progress was essentially linear, then it became exponential through the 2010s, then in 2021/22 it became compoundingly exponential. The tech is literally changing faster than the industry can keep track of it. AI experts may speak of specific progress on the 6th, but then on the 17th of the month, they must research again, as significant progress has occurred in a couple of weeks. More progress has been made in the last year than the previous 50 years.
This exponential growth is because all tech progress in various fields is now compounding into a central "brain" so that other areas of research can take advantage of it. As opposed to medical research not affecting automotive engineering which is not affecting agriculture, etc.. Now everything is combining into a central brain or whatever you want to call it. Essentially that's how I understand it, but I'm about as far away from a tech expert as you can get. That's my layman's definition/understanding of why it's now gaining speed every day. It's not likely to slow down until something dramatic happens. If it in fact does. "compoundingly exponential"* growth. Unlike that Rogaine I tried once. Darn! Chris
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Post by chessparov on Jan 11, 2024 13:28:44 GMT -6
Hypothetically speaking, would you guys trade your audio career for infinite or near infinite resources, the ability to have any medical issue solved, the ability to become augmented, a cyborg, or something better, full immersion VR, and to experience things that would be more stimulating than anything we can imagine? That would be a hard no. I know the essence of what will come along with that. More Taylor Swift? More Billie Eyelash?
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Post by ericn on Jan 11, 2024 14:52:39 GMT -6
What could be scary in the world of Songwriting and composition is what we will call the Glen Fry effect, remember how Glen provided those couple of lines of lyrics that finished Take IT Easy for Jackson Brown? Ask yourself how big a slice of the pie will 1 infinite Loop Music want for a use of an AI Glenn Fry?
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Post by yotonic on Jan 12, 2024 0:03:31 GMT -6
Everything about Silicon Valley and the internet has been a straight rip off. There is little to nothing that the internet has created. It has been a great unregulated space for companies to black market others work and IP. Besides finding a restaurant or a copy of an article YouLose, Google and the rest are giving people free music, movies, articles, and other work. Nothing very ingenious about it. Seems to be the way in America now from politics to business.
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Post by drsax on Jan 12, 2024 21:20:19 GMT -6
The WEF is forcasting the future that is in their best interest and again...no thanks. agreed seawell. No thanks here as well
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Post by theshea on Jan 13, 2024 10:49:42 GMT -6
its the next (last?) nail in the coffin. after napster, spotify, homerecording … music is already pretty worthless to the target: the audience doesn‘t like to pay for music so its worthless. bands don‘t sell music anymore. everyone is a producer today or makes beats. AI is already here, mixing AI, make john lennon sing your tune, make AI write your lyrics. its over …
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2024 11:23:47 GMT -6
its the next (last?) nail in the coffin. after napster, spotify, homerecording … music is already pretty worthless to the target: the audience doesn‘t like to pay for music so its worthless. bands don‘t sell music anymore. everyone is a producer today or makes beats. AI is already here, mixing AI, make john lennon sing your tune, make AI write your lyrics. its over … I don't disagree but there's a certain sense of economic irony in this entire thing. As everything becomes robotically automated and AI takes over most software based tasks it really does narrow down the list of available jobs. We're nowhere near that at the moment (well in some places we are like the automotive or electronics sector which was spurred on further by covid) although give it time.
It's going to be interesting to see how a mainly capitalist society is going to thrive and the main sectors which would have been pertinent is probably sports or creativity. Inventions, art etc. although for the most part we've already destroyed that with technology. Yes, there's far more to it than that but nevertheless.. Interesting.
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Post by theshea on Jan 13, 2024 13:31:37 GMT -6
its the next (last?) nail in the coffin. after napster, spotify, homerecording … music is already pretty worthless to the target: the audience doesn‘t like to pay for music so its worthless. bands don‘t sell music anymore. everyone is a producer today or makes beats. AI is already here, mixing AI, make john lennon sing your tune, make AI write your lyrics. its over … I don't disagree but there's a certain sense of economic irony in this entire thing. As everything becomes robotically automated and AI takes over most software based tasks it really does narrow down the list of available jobs.
birth rate is low, people are getting older, less young people around for jobs. thats off course in the western civilization (where AI is most powerful). so AI truncating jobs can be compensated to a certain degree. and at least here in europe there‘s an ongoing discussion about an unconditional basic income. and thats for a reason. and in the end capitalists don‘t care about social dilemma. they care about profit. paying less people is good for them if AI makes the job for free. the only care for a certain social order. so in order to avoid revolutions the change will be gradual and not radical. its a sad world we are living in.
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