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Post by trakworxmastering on Dec 30, 2023 12:00:32 GMT -6
For someone to supposedly be leaving on good terms, it's an odd move to delete the entire account and hurt the site's numbers. And - hey - if you're going to leave, there's no need for a big production telling people how much you're going to miss them. I just don't understand people sometimes. It's akin to walking into someone's business/bakery and announcing you've stopped eating bread and we all would be healthier if we didn't eat bread. Thanks a lot. And if you're wondering, I emailed Michael and said the exact same thing. Ah, I wouldn't take it personally. Sometimes people like to make a grand exit. It's one of the more amusing things about the internet. And half the time I see them back with a new account in less than a year  |
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Post by mike on Dec 30, 2023 12:31:56 GMT -6
For someone to supposedly be leaving on good terms, it's an odd move to delete the entire account and hurt the site's numbers. And - hey - if you're going to leave, there's no need for a big production telling people how much you're going to miss them. I just don't understand people sometimes. It's akin to walking into someone's business/bakery and announcing you've stopped eating bread and we all would be healthier if we didn't eat bread. Thanks a lot. And if you're wondering, I emailed Michael and said the exact same thing. Ah, I wouldn't take it personally. Sometimes people like to make a grand exit. It's one of the more amusing things about the internet. And half the time I see them back with a new account in less than a year Respectfully, IMHO His post did not strike me as anything but polite and worth his time to write because of his fondness and respect for the people here along with communicating the change, the why and another way to contact him. While I would guess most of us do not know deleting an account may hurt site numbers, I agree with earlier posts that suggest some delete accounts if you used your real name which can be googled, and it does help some from getting drawn back into a social media platforms and its time choices when they are consciously trying to focus their limited time in another way. I appreciate this site and everyone here very much as well as Michael, his past contributions, and wish him well on his future endeavors Mike |
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Post by ab101 on Dec 30, 2023 12:37:04 GMT -6
What I like about this forum is that it is about more than just gear talk. It has a sense of community, humor, caring, and a wide variety of participants that may not always agree with each other, but for the most part is done with civility, which is so much needed today.
Gear is a vehicle for making art. And art is a vehicle to make this world a better place.
Best to Michael, and thanks to everyone else for staying on here!
Ian Anderson - We Used to Know (Stand Up Album):
Each to his own way; I'll go mine.
Best of luck in what you find.
But for your own sake remember times
We used to know.
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Post by copperx on Dec 30, 2023 12:39:36 GMT -6
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Post by theboris on Dec 30, 2023 13:07:21 GMT -6
It's a little, I guess just sad that lots of posters both demonstrate and cite the sense of community here, offer well-wishes to OP, and give perfectly reasonable explanations as to why one might want to step away in full. In contrast, one of the few people that directly financially benefit from this site seems unabashedly focused on how the OP's decision affects his business. At least you edited your first post to give a veneer of interest in the person's wellbeing. You know, like a community would.
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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 30, 2023 13:14:08 GMT -6
It's a little, I guess just sad that lots of posters both demonstrate and cite the sense of community here, offer well-wishes to OP, and give perfectly reasonable explanations as to why one might want to step away in full. In contrast, one of the few people that directly financially benefit from this site seems unabashedly focused on how the OP's decision affects his business. At least you edited your first post to give a veneer of interest in the person's wellbeing. You know, like a community would. I’m really trying to hold my tongue here. A) you don’t know me, but you’ve made quite the accusation. B) “Financially benefit” are you kidding? I LOSE money running this site. Funny, I haven’t seen you contribute a dime, but you certainly aren’t scared to call me greedy. Hey - if you want to leave - knock yourself out. But usually people don’t announce it and then delete all traces and on top of that, start a thread about how it’s a waste of their time. And btw - I know Michael wasn’t thinking about all this…but I just don’t want people to get in the habit of announcing their departure. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 30, 2023 13:28:10 GMT -6
You know - being accused of being greedy really, really pisses me off. I’ve been anything BUT greedy. If I was greedy, I would have shut this board down half a decade ago.
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Post by christopher on Dec 30, 2023 13:28:56 GMT -6
Banker: don’t waste money on gear! Invest it!
Doctor: don’t waste money on investing! Your health is what’s important!
Therapist: don’t solve your problems so fast! Let’s slow down and think about this..
kids: what did mom and dad leave us? Poor investments and tax headaches, Underwater loans, empty pill bottles. And this … u47
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Post by ericn on Dec 30, 2023 13:37:21 GMT -6
It's a little, I guess just sad that lots of posters both demonstrate and cite the sense of community here, offer well-wishes to OP, and give perfectly reasonable explanations as to why one might want to step away in full. In contrast, one of the few people that directly financially benefit from this site seems unabashedly focused on how the OP's decision affects his business. At least you edited your first post to give a veneer of interest in the person's wellbeing. You know, like a community would. Ahh the ease of accusation without proof, price out the fee’s involved, then take a look at real internet advertising. Anytime someone withdraws from posting, especially someone who brought the background and knowledge as someone like Michael it indeed hurts JK in both an emotional and financial way, financial not in the sense that it cuts into profits but because it means investing more both financially and time wise. If you think there is money in these there hills of Internet audio forums go for it, let’s see how long it lasts. |
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Post by copperx on Dec 30, 2023 13:40:25 GMT -6
Everybody is different. Resolving to not ever come back to a forum for the rest of one's life is a decision that ought to be respected. However, Michael did contribute to the forum and deleting his account makes it impossible to search for his posts. That's another decision altogether, and while it should be respected, I don't understand the reasoning for making his contributions inaccesible. Johnkenn, maybe you should reach out and ask him if this was his intention. Maybe he didn't know the repercussions of deleting his account and he still wants his old posts to be available. If that is the case and you have his permission, you could ask t least change his "deleted" name to something searchable. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 30, 2023 13:55:57 GMT -6
Everybody is different. Resolving to not ever come back to a forum for the rest of one's life is a decision that ought to be respected. However, Michael did contribute to the forum and deleting his account makes it impossible to search for his posts. That's another decision altogether, and while it should be respected, I don't understand the reasoning for making his contributions inaccesible. This^^ And yeah. It’s a kick in the nuts - not ego - I couldn’t care less whether people love me or not. I can name a bunch of people that have left…sometimes I think people think they’re above it in their “career” to slum with the unwashed. Not accusing Michael of that at all. He’s been awesome. I really hate to lose him and don’t really understand the decision. Just off the top of my head. Here are some people that don’t post at all or very very rarely. Where are monkeyx, cat5, Chuck the sax guy, Jerome whatshisface, Dan Deurloo, Lolo, shoe, Cowboycoalminer (good to see him last couple days), littlesicily (guy lived 5 minutes from me), LesC, chaseutb, c0rtland, Jazznoise hasn’t been on since 2021, Randy K (I bought a km84 from his buddy and then resold it for LESS and the guy won’t talk to me anymore), and there are a bunch more… And this is the first time I’ve mentioned this in 10 years. And it’s not because of a post that started to turn into a “yeah we could all be doing better things” thread. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 30, 2023 13:57:00 GMT -6
I didn’t even delete my Gearslutz profile…although they probably have.
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Post by Johnkenn on Dec 30, 2023 14:01:46 GMT -6
Everybody is different. Resolving to not ever come back to a forum for the rest of one's life is a decision that ought to be respected. However, Michael did contribute to the forum and deleting his account makes it impossible to search for his posts. That's another decision altogether, and while it should be respected, I don't understand the reasoning for making his contributions inaccesible. Johnkenn, maybe you should reach out and ask him if this was his intention. Maybe he didn't know the repercussions of deleting his account and he still wants his old posts to be available. If that is the case and you have his permission, you could ask t least change his "deleted" name to something searchable. I emailed and he replied. Like I said - it’s his prerogative for sure. I hope he succeeds in whatever he’s getting into next. I did ask why he deleted and I guess he just doesn’t want to be tempted to post? Also said “when he’s posted it’s been mostly out of a sense of obligation.” Ok. Don’t want anyone to feel obligated to be here and force anyone to make posts… |
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Post by copperx on Dec 30, 2023 14:04:54 GMT -6
Just off the top of my head. Here are some people that don’t post at all or very very rarely. Where are monkeyx, cat5, Chuck the sax guy, Jerome whatshisface, Cowboycoalminer (good to see him last couple days), littlesicily (guy lived 5 minutes from me), Randy K (I bought a km84 from his buddy and then resold it for LESS and the guy won’t talk to me anymore), and there are a bunch more… Also a shout out to drsax, who I don't see here very often but kindly replies to my stupid DMs. |
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Post by ab101 on Dec 30, 2023 14:59:16 GMT -6
Johnkenn rocks. Time to make an end of year donation, which in many ways is really a payment for the great services received by having this forum.
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Post by trakworxmastering on Dec 30, 2023 15:18:38 GMT -6
I didn’t even delete my Gearslutz profile…although they probably have. Nope. You and all your contributions are all still there! I consider GS and RGO to be searchable databases where our posts add little by little to the pool of knowledge for the greater good. That's the real obligation that I feel; to give back to the online communities that have taught me so much. I won't delete that. |
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Post by jeremygillespie on Dec 30, 2023 15:27:14 GMT -6
Johnkenn rocks. Time to make an end of year donation, which in many ways is really a payment for the great services received by having this forum. I agree - just sent mine. Thanks for the great place John! |
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Post by Tbone81 on Dec 30, 2023 15:38:42 GMT -6
It's a little, I guess just sad that lots of posters both demonstrate and cite the sense of community here, offer well-wishes to OP, and give perfectly reasonable explanations as to why one might want to step away in full. In contrast, one of the few people that directly financially benefit from this site seems unabashedly focused on how the OP's decision affects his business. At least you edited your first post to give a veneer of interest in the person's wellbeing. You know, like a community would. If that’s what you think about John then you haven’t been paying attention to this forum. |
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Post by plinker on Dec 30, 2023 17:23:58 GMT -6
I like Michael and wish him well.
At the same time, as I read this thread, I keep having flashbacks to this:
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Post by thehightenor on Dec 30, 2023 18:18:53 GMT -6
I like Michael and wish him well. At the same time, as I read this thread, I keep having flashbacks to this: I’ve not seen that video before, it’s very funny and scary true of some people!  |
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Post by bossanova on Dec 30, 2023 18:41:39 GMT -6
Everybody is different. Resolving to not ever come back to a forum for the rest of one's life is a decision that ought to be respected. However, Michael did contribute to the forum and deleting his account makes it impossible to search for his posts. That's another decision altogether, and while it should be respected, I don't understand the reasoning for making his contributions inaccesible. Johnkenn , maybe you should reach out and ask him if this was his intention. Maybe he didn't know the repercussions of deleting his account and he still wants his old posts to be available. If that is the case and you have his permission, you could ask t least change his "deleted" name to something searchable. Another vote here to change Michael’s deleted name to something searchable, if only because of all the knowledge he’s contributed here. |
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Post by Blackdawg on Dec 30, 2023 18:42:36 GMT -6
Drat, who else will I chat with on here about Classical recording?
Cheer man! Still using your products.
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Post by sean on Dec 30, 2023 21:35:37 GMT -6
Maybe deleting your account is smart if you are going to be inactive since dandeurloo was hacked and scammed people (me) out of money…helps avoid someone taking advantage of your reputation online
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Post by Bob Olhsson on Dec 30, 2023 21:45:41 GMT -6
I suspect he is trying to get away from what are probably endless inquiries about his software and Lexicon.
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Post by ericn on Dec 30, 2023 21:53:30 GMT -6
I suspect he is trying to get away from what are probably endless inquiries about his software and Lexicon. Damn it Bob ! You know this is the internet! How dare you bring logic and reason to a discussion 😁 |
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