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Post by ericn on Oct 26, 2023 20:52:07 GMT -6
My new Type L turned up yesterday thanks spock Adam. Looking forward for a test run! Congratulations Paul can’t wait to hear what you think.
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Post by elmolemon on Oct 26, 2023 20:55:24 GMT -6
Quite interested in this one. Looking forward to hear your first impressions. The description of the two voicing sounds like this mic could cover quite some sonic ground. Vocals, however, aren’t mentioned at all.
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Post by paulcheeba on Oct 27, 2023 11:41:42 GMT -6
My new Type L turned up yesterday thanks spock Adam. Looking forward for a test run! Congratulations Paul can’t wait to hear what you think. I love it. Quality and sonics in a simple, solid bamboo box. Setting A is strong and quite compressed sounding. Setting B sounded more dynamic and sensitive. I put a couple of drum examples on the Purple site. It's great value and feels like a real mic, not a Chinese donor etc. I would buy it, in fact I need to buy a pair.
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Post by sean on Oct 27, 2023 23:06:59 GMT -6
Interested to hear one some day…my REDD has become a go to for pretty much vocalist since I got it against my Upton 251, U67 old and new, Bock 49, and anything else in the cabinet
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Post by paulcheeba on Oct 28, 2023 8:59:46 GMT -6
Interested to hear one some day…my REDD has become a go to for pretty much vocalist since I got it against my Upton 251, U67 old and new, Bock 49, and anything else in the cabinet Interesting. I love my REDD's, like the TG but this new one is really great. Don't hesitate.
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Post by sean on Oct 28, 2023 16:33:57 GMT -6
Interested to hear one some day…my REDD has become a go to for pretty much vocalist since I got it against my Upton 251, U67 old and new, Bock 49, and anything else in the cabinet Interesting. I love my REDD's, like the TG but this new one is really great. Don't hesitate. Singers always say they enjoy singing into the REDD, I think because it has such a “finished” sound. It’s inspiring on headphone and that’s what really matters.
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Post by spock on Nov 1, 2023 9:10:50 GMT -6
Congratulations Paul can’t wait to hear what you think. I love it. Quality and sonics in a simple, solid bamboo box. Setting A is strong and quite compressed sounding. Setting B sounded more dynamic and sensitive. I put a couple of drum examples on the Purple site. It's great value and feels like a real mic, not a Chinese donor etc. I would buy it, in fact I need to buy a pair. Hi Paul, those samples were great; can't wait until you try it on your amps or piano.
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Post by paulcheeba on Nov 1, 2023 14:45:35 GMT -6
I love it. Quality and sonics in a simple, solid bamboo box. Setting A is strong and quite compressed sounding. Setting B sounded more dynamic and sensitive. I put a couple of drum examples on the Purple site. It's great value and feels like a real mic, not a Chinese donor etc. I would buy it, in fact I need to buy a pair. Hi Paul, those samples were great; can't wait until you try it on your amps or piano. Thanks Adam! One little mic and it covered the whole kit. Sounds dope on vocals, I been using it all day.
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Post by elmolemon on Nov 2, 2023 0:19:38 GMT -6
Sounds dope on vocals, I been using it all day. Wohoo - that’s great to hear! I’m very interested to learn more about your experience with vocals. As the voicings of the Type L are only vaguely described it would be great if you could share your impressions. Did you try both voicings? I would imagine that voicing A is the preferred voicing for vocals. That being said I often love the smooth sound of a ribbon. Can voicing B come close?
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Post by andersmv on Nov 10, 2023 15:14:15 GMT -6
That’s all I can do for a while, hopefully it’s a good holdover!
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Post by reddirt on Nov 10, 2023 19:52:40 GMT -6
That's my kind of mic - super smooth natural mids. The bottom end bump on the acoustic sounds like placement or HPF would be an easy fix. Nice -very nice. Cheers, Ross
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Post by andersmv on Nov 10, 2023 23:31:19 GMT -6
For sure, I felt like that was a pretty accurate representation of the mic sonically. I had it going through a Coil CA-70 and clicking down to -2 on the low end eq sounded solid to me. It wouldn’t have taken much, but I was more interested to see how System B reacted in a bit of a boomy placement. I have gotten really accustomed to using the roll off on my original TG mic for acoustic instruments, it’s the one thing I miss on this one when in System A. It’s a small room as well, so I’m reserving judgments until I get back to my space.
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Post by antipodesjosh on Nov 11, 2023 4:21:25 GMT -6
Sounds really good! Very full and “finished”.
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Post by Ward on Nov 11, 2023 10:00:39 GMT -6
Hi Paul, those samples were great; can't wait until you try it on your amps or piano. Thanks Adam! One little mic and it covered the whole kit. Sounds dope on vocals, I been using it all day. Fabulous endorsement. Can't wait for you to do one of those evaluation demos some day.
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Post by sirthought on Nov 11, 2023 12:40:29 GMT -6
For sure, I felt like that was a pretty accurate representation of the mic sonically. I had it going through a Coil CA-70 and clicking down to -2 on the low end eq sounded solid to me. It wouldn’t have taken much, but I was more interested to see how System B reacted in a bit of a boomy placement. I have gotten really accustomed to using the roll off on my original TG mic for acoustic instruments, it’s the one thing I miss on this one when in System A. It’s a small room as well, so I’m reserving judgments until I get back to my space. I guess one question I'd have in relationship to their marketing pitch is, does the B setting offer the same feel as a ribbon mic? Or is that what would sell this mic when someone hears it? I know not all ribbons are Figure 8, but when I heard this mic was cardioid only, I was a little bummed. I like ribbons not just because of the sound, but because that figure 8 pattern can be useful when tracking multiple sources in a room. I did think the B setting was little smoother on the vocal. Maybe lightens the sibilance somewhat. Sibilance didn't sound too bad on A, but there was a little. I guess one could alway use an in-line HPF if you wanted. I'm not sure how much of a difference it makes if that change is happeing on the mic, versus on a preamp, or even in a software setting. On the mic is always nicer for utility.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Nov 11, 2023 12:55:36 GMT -6
I'd love to hear a comparison between this mic and the New 1973 Soyuz, they sound quite similar from these samples.
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Post by spock on Nov 11, 2023 13:18:25 GMT -6
For sure, I felt like that was a pretty accurate representation of the mic sonically. I had it going through a Coil CA-70 and clicking down to -2 on the low end eq sounded solid to me. It wouldn’t have taken much, but I was more interested to see how System B reacted in a bit of a boomy placement. I have gotten really accustomed to using the roll off on my original TG mic for acoustic instruments, it’s the one thing I miss on this one when in System A. It’s a small room as well, so I’m reserving judgments until I get back to my space. I guess one question I'd have in relationship to their marketing pitch is, does the B setting offer the same feel as a ribbon mic? Or is that what would sell this mic when someone hears it? I can help address this...Among beta testers, the 'Ribbon' like quality or sound was a consistent remark; personally I think because of the roundness. However, adding more to this, was that while it had those qualities, it still had detail. As one of the engineer put it— "It sounds like a good ribbon AFTER I’ve eq’d the fuck out of it...As in..what I hear as missing. It’s already there...And I KNOW me the sound of ribbons!!." I hope that helps; I have a video of Butch Walker talking about this 'ribbon' aspect too.
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Post by andersmv on Nov 12, 2023 12:40:01 GMT -6
I guess one question I'd have in relationship to their marketing pitch is, does the B setting offer the same feel as a ribbon mic? Or is that what would sell this mic when someone hears it? I can help address this...Among beta testers, the 'Ribbon' like quality or sound was a consistent remark; personally I think because of the roundness. However, adding more to this, was that while it had those qualities, it still had detail. As one of the engineer put it— "It sounds like a good ribbon AFTER I’ve eq’d the fuck out of it...As in..what I hear as missing. It’s already there...And I KNOW me the sound of ribbons!!." I hope that helps; I have a video of Butch Walker talking about this 'ribbon' aspect too. When I tested the Type L on David’s vocals, we both liked System B a lot more. It almost sounded more compressed, which was unexpected. Smoother as well, which I was expecting. Is System B similar in the Type L and original TG mic, where the circuit isn’t being pushed as hard and is cleaner? Did System B just sound more compressed to us because System A was more mid range aggressive, and the switch is just making the midrange seemed compressed? Anyway, it sounds good but wasn’t what I was expecting going into this.
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Post by Ward on Nov 12, 2023 13:05:11 GMT -6
As one of the engineer put it— "It sounds like a good ribbon AFTER I’ve eq’d the fuck out of it...SNIP Might I ask what this "fuck" is they're trying to EQ out?
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Post by spock on Nov 12, 2023 13:13:43 GMT -6
As one of the engineer put it— "It sounds like a good ribbon AFTER I’ve eq’d the fuck out of it...SNIP Might I ask what this "fuck" is they're trying to EQ out? Not necessarily cutting; however I can get “clarity” or more “detail” for you.
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Post by Ward on Nov 12, 2023 13:16:10 GMT -6
Might I ask what this "fuck" is they're trying to EQ out? Not necessarily cutting; however I can get “clarity” or more “detail” for you. Touché Anyhow, from what I can tell the L sounds like it captures like an AEA KU5. And that one hardly needs any 'fuck' EQed out of it either.
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Post by spock on Nov 12, 2023 13:33:38 GMT -6
Not necessarily cutting; however I can get “clarity” or more “detail” for you. Touché Anyhow, from what I can tell the L sounds like it captures like an AEA KU5. And that one hardly needs any 'fuck' EQed out of it either. Yah, I think what Butch Walker conveys and what the engineer I quoted was trying to say was that it’s like finished. Also hence why some of them feel they can use the Type L in place or the typical dynamic and ribbon combo setup.
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Post by jacobamerritt on Nov 13, 2023 1:13:05 GMT -6
For sure, I felt like that was a pretty accurate representation of the mic sonically. I had it going through a Coil CA-70 and clicking down to -2 on the low end eq sounded solid to me. It wouldn’t have taken much, but I was more interested to see how System B reacted in a bit of a boomy placement. I have gotten really accustomed to using the roll off on my original TG mic for acoustic instruments, it’s the one thing I miss on this one when in System A. It’s a small room as well, so I’m reserving judgments until I get back to my space. Thanks for the demo! I'd be curious to hear it on not such a specific preamp. Undoubtedly that'll juice the signal a bit. A nice 'clean' pre or an even a pre thats more commonly heard. Hard for me to tell what's the pre and what's the mic as far as character
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Post by thehightenor on Nov 13, 2023 1:33:03 GMT -6
I guess one question I'd have in relationship to their marketing pitch is, does the B setting offer the same feel as a ribbon mic? Or is that what would sell this mic when someone hears it? I can help address this...Among beta testers, the 'Ribbon' like quality or sound was a consistent remark; personally I think because of the roundness. However, adding more to this, was that while it had those qualities, it still had detail. As one of the engineer put it— "It sounds like a good ribbon AFTER I’ve eq’d the fuck out of it...As in..what I hear as missing. It’s already there...And I KNOW me the sound of ribbons!!." I hope that helps; I have a video of Butch Walker talking about this 'ribbon' aspect too. So why not just use an appropriate ribbon mic, I’m not sure how …. "It sounds like a good ribbon AFTER I’ve eq’d the fuck out of it..“ …. is a selling point. Chandler always seems to go for slightly unusual mic voicings, which is to be applauded on some levels but I’m never sure why I need to add one to my locker. That said, the price is attractive and perhaps it’s unusual sounding in a really great way.
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Post by andersmv on Nov 13, 2023 8:09:25 GMT -6
For sure, I felt like that was a pretty accurate representation of the mic sonically. I had it going through a Coil CA-70 and clicking down to -2 on the low end eq sounded solid to me. It wouldn’t have taken much, but I was more interested to see how System B reacted in a bit of a boomy placement. I have gotten really accustomed to using the roll off on my original TG mic for acoustic instruments, it’s the one thing I miss on this one when in System A. It’s a small room as well, so I’m reserving judgments until I get back to my space. Thanks for the demo! I'd be curious to hear it on not such a specific preamp. Undoubtedly that'll juice the signal a bit. A nice 'clean' pre or an even a pre thats more commonly heard. Hard for me to tell what's the pre and what's the mic as far as character I would have preferred to use a less colorful preamp as a first test, but the Coils are all he’s got here right now. #firstworldproblems 🤣
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