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Post by drumsound on Oct 3, 2023 7:48:10 GMT -6
Kick - sm57 Snare - sm57 Toms - sm57 x 2 OH - sm57 x 2 HH - sm57 = sm57 x 7 This is nightmare fuel for me. |
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Post by enlav on Oct 3, 2023 8:23:05 GMT -6
Kick - sm57 Snare - sm57 Toms - sm57 x 2 OH - sm57 x 2 HH - sm57 = sm57 x 7 This is nightmare fuel for me. My Old EV rep was telling me he did this with RE320's. RE320 on Kick, Snare, Overheads... Granted, he was trying to hype up the (at the time) new/cool microphone.
Not as bad but not much better.
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Post by Ward on Oct 3, 2023 9:40:30 GMT -6
<sigh> I wanted to be the killjoy this time Kick out Neumann U47fet Snare KM84 Toms Lauten LS308 x 3 Hats Beyer M201 OHs U67 x2 Rooms V24s 8 mics. ~$37k I hate to be the math killjoy Ward , but that's 9 mics.  PS - what's my "score" if I'm using 8 vintage 251's? I'd be more than willing to adjust my score up by using 8 Heiserman 251's..... Darn it, I'll have to kill the hi hat mic then. |
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Post by Ward on Oct 3, 2023 9:42:46 GMT -6
Kick - sm57 Snare - sm57 Toms - sm57 x 2 OH - sm57 x 2 HH - sm57 = sm57 x 7 This is nightmare fuel for me. For most 'modern' mixing it would be fine . . . since everything is going to be replaced with samples anyhow, owing to the number of 'recordists' out there who don't know how to capture drums. But for our group of 10-12,000 people? It's like gravy on your ice cream. |
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Post by mcirish on Oct 3, 2023 10:53:30 GMT -6
Just listing what I'm currently using as it works well for me:
OH = AT4050 x2 or MC930 x2
Snare = i5 + MC012 if needed
Toms = ATM230 (much better than the MD421U mics I also have)
Kick In = ATM25 or Beta52A if it's metal
Kick Out = AT4047
Room = AEA R84A
Fairly inexpensive.
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Post by parasitk on Oct 3, 2023 11:04:15 GMT -6
Yeah this really would depend on a lot of factors, but assuming I’m recording something for myself:
OH: R88 mk2
Kick: e602
Snare: m201
Heart: SR-2N
Room L/R: 635a (x2)
Toms 1/2: X1D (x2)
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Post by geoff738 on Oct 3, 2023 13:01:39 GMT -6
Kick - sm57 Snare - sm57 Toms - sm57 x 2 OH - sm57 x 2 HH - sm57 = sm57 x 7 Didnt Rick Rubin do this on a Chili Peppers record? Or is that just an urban myth? Cheers, Geoff |
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Post by knucklehead89 on Oct 3, 2023 14:40:50 GMT -6
Kick - sm57 Snare - sm57 Toms - sm57 x 2 OH - sm57 x 2 HH - sm57 = sm57 x 7 Didnt Rick Rubin do this on a Chili Peppers record? Or is that just an urban myth? Cheers, Geoff Don’t quote me but I’m pretty sure I heard it’s mostly true except the overheads and bass drum I think they used a D112. |
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Post by antipodesjosh on Oct 3, 2023 15:46:13 GMT -6
It’s fair to say that sm57s would not be my first choice for all the things!
More realistically, something like:
Kick out - Telefunken m82
Snare - Telefunken m80
Toms - ATM230 x2
OH - Austrian Audio OC18 x2
Room - Samar AL95 x2
Swap OH and Rooms depending on genre/vibe
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Post by Darren Boling on Oct 3, 2023 16:29:13 GMT -6
Can we count the cost of when we got them and not what they are now?
Kick - D12 (old one that you hope doesn't lose it's bass response)
Snare - KM84
OH - Vanguard V44s
Floor tom - ATM25
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Post by copperx on Oct 3, 2023 17:04:52 GMT -6
Haha I didn't expect so many participants! I'll tally up the scores soon.
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Post by lee on Oct 3, 2023 21:15:29 GMT -6
I guess I'll un-lurk for a challenge!
3x ATM25 for kick and two toms
Beyer M201 snare top
C451 for snare bottom
2x STC 4038 OH
M160 mono room
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Post by ab101 on Oct 3, 2023 21:44:41 GMT -6
Can we count the cost of when we got them and not what they are now? Kick - D12 (old one that you hope doesn't lose it's bass response) Snare - KM84 OH - Vanguard V44s Floor tom - ATM25 Thank you. I should use my ATM25 on floor tom and my two Josephson E22s mics on rack toms. |
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Post by allbuttonmode on Oct 4, 2023 4:46:40 GMT -6
OH (Mono): Coles 4038
Toms: Soyuz 013 (x2)
Kick Out: Neumann U47 Fet
Kick In: Shure Beta 91
Snare Top: Beyerdynamic M201
Snare Bottom: Shure Beta 57
Room (Mono): Coles 4038
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Post by Ward on Oct 4, 2023 5:50:22 GMT -6
Side question: How many of you all are recording/mixing drums in mono?
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Post by jeremygillespie on Oct 4, 2023 6:54:35 GMT -6
Side question: How many of you all are recording/mixing drums in mono? I never strive for a mono thing out of being old school or whatever, but have found myself with a mono OH with spot mics on the drums now and again. Toms get panned like 15% to each side and the Blum pair of ribbons in front of the kit give the sides the idea of space. |
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Post by thehightenor on Oct 4, 2023 7:45:05 GMT -6
Another title for the thread could of been .... Please list every microphone suitable for recording drums because in effect that's what you got Unless one actually left out?  |
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Post by Ward on Oct 4, 2023 7:50:54 GMT -6
Unless one actually left out? Haven't seen a flood of Shure 535, EV RE10 11 15 16 666 RE20 suggestions yet! |
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Post by allbuttonmode on Oct 4, 2023 7:57:58 GMT -6
Side question: How many of you all are recording/mixing drums in mono? Less these days. But I rarely pan the OHs out more than 30%. So... Mono'ish? Same goes for toms.
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Post by drbill on Oct 4, 2023 10:16:18 GMT -6
Unless one actually left out? Haven't seen a flood of Shure 535, EV RE10 11 15 16 666 RE20 suggestions yet! 535 is almost always on snare top for me. A bit smoother than a 57, but still like a 57. |
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Post by Darren Boling on Oct 4, 2023 11:27:21 GMT -6
Can we count the cost of when we got them and not what they are now? Kick - D12 (old one that you hope doesn't lose it's bass response) Snare - KM84 OH - Vanguard V44s Floor tom - ATM25 Thank you. I should use my ATM25 on floor tom and my two Josephson E22s mics on rack toms. It's a killer floor tom mic. I know a lot of people like them for kick but I've never been able to make it work for me. |
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Post by ab101 on Oct 4, 2023 12:40:07 GMT -6
Thank you. I should use my ATM25 on floor tom and my two Josephson E22s mics on rack toms. It's a killer floor tom mic. I know a lot of people like them for kick but I've never been able to make it work for me. Thank you so much. I look forward to trying it. I have been using it for live work with hand drums. I am excited to try it on floor tom! |
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Post by lee on Oct 4, 2023 12:40:51 GMT -6
Side question: How many of you all are recording/mixing drums in mono? I would if I felt I could. Peer pressure, man. |
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Post by Ward on Oct 4, 2023 12:49:44 GMT -6
Side question: How many of you all are recording/mixing drums in mono? I would if I felt I could. Peer pressure, man. I feel you! Hey, we have a whole subform here devoted to peer pressure, I mean bourbon. |
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Post by ericn on Oct 4, 2023 14:11:09 GMT -6
Kick - sm57 Snare - sm57 Toms - sm57 x 2 OH - sm57 x 2 HH - sm57 = sm57 x 7 This is nightmare fuel for me. This is a LIVING nightmare! So many clubs so often I have walked into this nightmare. All you need to make it a cliche is 2 C1000’s and a D112, and to make it worse one of C1000’s has that little piece of plastic that changes the pattern jammed in, or 2 C3000’s upside down using the tiny second element that makes it Hypercardiod. Unfortunately yes I have lived these nightmares. |
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