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Post by recordingengineer on Sept 21, 2023 18:56:24 GMT -6
Setting them loose. It’s an old trick. I somewhat vaguely remember trying it once 25-years ago when I first heard about it. Don’t remember anything but that and completely forgot about it until the reminder.
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Post by drumsound on Sept 21, 2023 23:30:29 GMT -6
I can't say if Silencer will solve all your problems, but so far it's working well for me. On a side note, I believe I got this tip from Benny Greb. Flatten a few cotton balls and put them in each tom. It just keeps the resonant head from continuously ringing, without killing the sound like muffling would. Are you affixing the cotton balls to the resonant head somehow or just setting them loose in the tom? I've got them loose in the drums. I think they are kinda more placebo... --- I tried the silencer today on snare and toms. It didn't stay on either. I think I just kinda hate using gates on anything but BD.
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Post by mcirish on Sept 22, 2023 6:16:14 GMT -6
The cotton ball trick works well for me. Just flatten out three cotton balls so they are each about 2" diameter. It just keeps the resonant head from ringing continuously, but they will bounce up when the drum is hit so it isn't dead.
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Post by lee on Oct 5, 2023 10:32:15 GMT -6
You guys turned me on to Silencer—thanks. I already had Oxford Drum Gate, but I think Silencer does a better job of snares, where you get more natural ring and also more cymbal reduction (and Oxford does an arguably, slightly better job of kicks). Instant purchase. I tried it on an old drum recording with very heavy, slushy hihats and the snare separation is just like a magic trick.
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Post by bgrotto on Oct 5, 2023 12:10:38 GMT -6
Another handy trick for taming resonant floor tom’s is to mount one of the three legs upside down, so the metal point that is normally on top is on the floor instead of the rubber foot. 9 outta 10 times this will shorten the decay nicely and also diminish reso head “hum”. Particularly handy on those pesky DW kits….
As for Silencer, bought it and loved it. Used it a TON these past couple weeks. Anyone wants to buy my Oxford drum gate license just hmu.
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Post by lee on Oct 5, 2023 16:45:28 GMT -6
Another handy trick for taming resonant floor tom’s is to mount one of the three legs upside down, so the metal point that is normally on top is on the floor instead of the rubber foot. 9 outta 10 times this will shorten the decay nicely and also diminish reso head “hum”. Particularly handy on those pesky DW kits…. As for Silencer, bought it and loved it. Used it a TON these past couple weeks. Anyone wants to buy my Oxford drum gate license just hmu. That's a good trick, gonna try that. The drum tracks I was testing was a DW and littered with res.
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Post by drumsound on Oct 5, 2023 20:23:09 GMT -6
Another handy trick for taming resonant floor tom’s is to mount one of the three legs upside down, so the metal point that is normally on top is on the floor instead of the rubber foot. 9 outta 10 times this will shorten the decay nicely and also diminish reso head “hum”. Particularly handy on those pesky DW kits…. As for Silencer, bought it and loved it. Used it a TON these past couple weeks. Anyone wants to buy my Oxford drum gate license just hmu. That's a good trick, gonna try that. The drum tracks I was testing was a DW and littered with res. I flipped one leg on my 14" Gretsch, and it's still got doouuummm for days.
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Post by ericn on Oct 5, 2023 20:54:22 GMT -6
Another handy trick for taming resonant floor tom’s is to mount one of the three legs upside down, so the metal point that is normally on top is on the floor instead of the rubber foot. 9 outta 10 times this will shorten the decay nicely and also diminish reso head “hum”. Particularly handy on those pesky DW kits…. As for Silencer, bought it and loved it. Used it a TON these past couple weeks. Anyone wants to buy my Oxford drum gate license just hmu. Hey Benny you forgot the most basic and forgotten trick, take a wrench and just tighten every bolt and nut on the kit😁 Yeah it falls under Duh! But do you have any idea how many kits in the studio and live the simplest of tricks have made me look like I have magical powers, when it’s just the fact that I carry a wrench ?
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Post by chessparov on Oct 5, 2023 21:09:33 GMT -6
But... What if the Nut on the Kit, is already tight? (As I return to lurk mode and Sgt. Pepper ) Chris
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Post by bgrotto on Oct 5, 2023 21:37:56 GMT -6
Another handy trick for taming resonant floor tom’s is to mount one of the three legs upside down, so the metal point that is normally on top is on the floor instead of the rubber foot. 9 outta 10 times this will shorten the decay nicely and also diminish reso head “hum”. Particularly handy on those pesky DW kits…. As for Silencer, bought it and loved it. Used it a TON these past couple weeks. Anyone wants to buy my Oxford drum gate license just hmu. Hey Benny you forgot the most basic and forgotten trick, take a wrench and just tighten every bolt and nut on the kit😁 Yeah it falls under Duh! But do you have any idea how many kits in the studio and live the simplest of tricks have made me look like I have magical powers, when it’s just the fact that I carry a wrench ? Not a great option if the kit is already tuned, since heads need to come off to tighten lug screws and so forth!
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Post by ericn on Oct 5, 2023 21:53:43 GMT -6
Hey Benny you forgot the most basic and forgotten trick, take a wrench and just tighten every bolt and nut on the kit😁 Yeah it falls under Duh! But do you have any idea how many kits in the studio and live the simplest of tricks have made me look like I have magical powers, when it’s just the fact that I carry a wrench ? Not a great option if the kit is already tuned, since heads need to come off to tighten lug screws and so forth! Eh it should be done before hand, but it’s so much easier to actually solve the problem than dive into work arounds. Of course it’s also why great drum techs make really good money 😁
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Post by lee on Oct 5, 2023 22:52:53 GMT -6
That's a good trick, gonna try that. The drum tracks I was testing was a DW and littered with res. I flipped one leg on my 14" Gretsch, and it's still got doouuummm for days. But probably still sounds better than the doouuummm of DW.
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Post by frans on Oct 6, 2023 7:00:36 GMT -6
I used Wilkinson audio Debleeder for that, which isn't bad if used lightly. Drumatom when it's just damage control. But this one is interesting! Thanks for turning me on to this.
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Post by drumsound on Oct 6, 2023 9:29:49 GMT -6
I flipped one leg on my 14" Gretsch, and it's still got doouuummm for days. But probably still sounds better than the doouuummm of DW. It's a great sounding doouuummmm
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Post by ericn on Oct 6, 2023 12:00:21 GMT -6
But probably still sounds better than the doouuummm of DW. It's a great sounding doouuummmm Man Tony, the sound of a kit is so personal, especially the kick and low Tom’s, one guys dream is another’s nightmare!
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Post by lee on Oct 6, 2023 15:30:31 GMT -6
It's a great sounding doouuummmm Man Tony, the sound of a kit is so personal, especially the kick and low Tom’s, one guys dream is another’s nightmare! I assumed that was the fun of it. If Abe Jr is behind the DW in question, that's a dream. It can change on a dime!
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Post by chessparov on Oct 6, 2023 17:17:00 GMT -6
Another handy trick for taming resonant floor tom’s is to mount one of the three legs upside down, so the metal point that is normally on top is on the floor instead of the rubber foot. 9 outta 10 times this will shorten the decay nicely and also diminish reso head “hum”. Particularly handy on those pesky DW kits…. As for Silencer, bought it and loved it. Used it a TON these past couple weeks. Anyone wants to buy my Oxford drum gate license just hmu. Hey Benny you forgot the most basic and forgotten trick, take a wrench and just tighten every bolt and nut on the kit😁 Yeah it falls under Duh! But do you have any idea how many kits in the studio and live the simplest of tricks have made me look like I have magical powers, when it’s just the fact that I carry a wrench ? Even on biggest Lugs? I remember how hard to tune a drum kit. With the proper Key. Back when I was A minor. Chris
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Post by ericn on Oct 6, 2023 17:56:33 GMT -6
Hey Benny you forgot the most basic and forgotten trick, take a wrench and just tighten every bolt and nut on the kit😁 Yeah it falls under Duh! But do you have any idea how many kits in the studio and live the simplest of tricks have made me look like I have magical powers, when it’s just the fact that I carry a wrench ? Even on biggest Lugs? I remember how hard to tune a drum kit. With the proper Key. Back when I was A minor. Chris Chris Well yeah it was a Major pain in the ass. There are a couple of those drum key drill bits around here somewhere, but I gave up on them some years ago when a drummer was using his own and accidentally set the drill to impact, and know it was not one of those crappy Impact kits “. Saw that one coming Chris. Those Impact plastic drums were made in my home town till they sold out to Yamaha, quite ironically in a factory once owned By Susan Lipp owner of FullCompass ironically he was at the time they married he was also my father’s landlord for a warehouse he rented, it really is a small world.
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Post by christophert on Oct 6, 2023 18:16:30 GMT -6
After a few weeks with Silencer - it does the job well, but it does sound a little "plastic" on snare drums I hope they tweak the software going forward
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Post by ragan on Oct 14, 2023 13:08:52 GMT -6
I’m doing drums right now. Gonna demo this along with the Oxford. I really loved the Slate gate, probably the best I’ve heard. But I’m not subscribing and not paying lol $150 for the gate.
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Post by lee on Oct 14, 2023 20:18:15 GMT -6
I’m doing drums right now. Gonna demo this along with the Oxford. I really loved the Slate gate, probably the best I’ve heard. But I’m not subscribing and not paying lol $150 for the gate. I don't think I have any more dollars for Slate. The Oxford works well and is far more tweakable, and Silencer seems to do the best job at destroying all trace of cymbals, particularly heavy rock hihats. But with my snare tracks un-soloed, I don't detect enough of a difference either way.
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Post by ragan on Oct 14, 2023 21:12:51 GMT -6
Oh heheh, is the Oxford $229? That is comedy. I’ll stick with the stock Pro Tools gate.
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Post by sirthought on Oct 14, 2023 21:23:46 GMT -6
Oh heheh, is the Oxford $229? That is comedy. I’ll stick with the stock Pro Tools gate. Just wait around for it. I paid $30-$40.
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Post by ragan on Oct 14, 2023 23:09:51 GMT -6
Silencer is pretty amazing
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Post by bgrotto on Oct 15, 2023 16:31:33 GMT -6
Oh heheh, is the Oxford $229? That is comedy. I’ll stick with the stock Pro Tools gate. You can definitely get it way cheaper if you wait around, as recommended above. That said, if you're in a big hurry, I'll sell you my copy for $25 + ilok fee (which last I checked is $25). Haven't been using it much the last couple years because of its lack of sidechain input, which is a bit of a dealbreaker in my workflow.
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