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Post by drbill on Sept 15, 2023 18:24:26 GMT -6
Yea, if you monitor off the repo head while over dubbing. Who does that?Digital has latency, no matter how small. Period. I know!! I know!!!!! Wait.....is this a trick question? I'll go for it anyway.  Answer : N O. O N E. LOL And yes, digital always has SOME degree of latency while analog is zero. Or at least at the speed of light or sound or some pseudo scientific thing. Virtually none. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2023 20:35:01 GMT -6
A Member Said. "Monitoring off the recording medium in analog is hugely latent in comparison to digital. The analog to digital to analog loopback is much less latent than monitoring off the repro head" Yea, if you monitor off the repo head while over dubbing. Who does that? Modern tape machines have sel/sync which turns the record head into a playback head. Allowing playback of recorded tracks while recording new tracks with .ZERO latency Headphones, zero latency. Mixing is done off the repo head, zero latency. Digital has latency, no matter how small. Period. You cannot monitor the medium onto which it is recorded as it is being recorded. Latency prevents that. You cannot monitor the repro head of your stereo tape deck during mix down with any acceptable latency. Digital lets you monitor the medium with the accuracy of your monitoring path. |
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Post by okcrecording on Sept 25, 2023 15:45:25 GMT -6
I mean, technically there is no such thing as zero latency. It may not be perceivable, but there’s always some kind of latency. Speaking into the air induces latency! |
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Post by theboris on Sept 25, 2023 16:21:18 GMT -6
pulling this back to the thread title...
i think the dual op amp jensen is hard to beat in terms of robustness, i've never heard myself, nor really on the message boards, anyone speak ill about them. no "it all turns muddy when stacked" or "too mid forward!"
maybe this is better reserved for GDIY, but anyone care to delve into why that circuit is seemingly able to take anything you throw at it without fail, mic or source, vs. 312, 1272 or cohen style circuits? i guess if there's a mic that doesn't play nice* with tx input, then a transformerless input pre is the way to go, but otherwise? i should probably re-read the pdfs on hardy's site discussing M2 and twin servo with an eye towards differences...
*i've heard of this but never encountered it - anyone care to share their experience with this happening? what was weird, what was cause, what did it sound like?
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Post by EmRR on Sept 25, 2023 19:27:14 GMT -6
anyone care to delve into why that circuit is seemingly able to take anything you throw at it without fail, mic or source, vs. 312, 1272 or cohen style circuits? Because the transformer is only a 6dB step up gain (150:600) so it handles high output condensers fine, and the 990 is a rare example of an op amp designed to mate perfectly in terms of noise contribution to a 600 ohm source such as that transformer. It's about as close to a preamp input that can't be blown up by a hot output mic as there is, I'm sure that was part of the design brief even though that part seems lost in the mists of time. The transformers are high nickel content for lowest distortion (caveats), contrasting the API higher distortion steel core transformers that make everything forward at all times, like it or not. |
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Post by chessparov on Sept 26, 2023 11:18:52 GMT -6
Exactly. This is what I always say.  And always beware of the Repo head. That's the ticket. BTW yes I do hear the smallest of any digital and analog Near/Virtual/Zero latency. But you try to tell this to the kids today, and they just don't believe you. Chris |
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Post by Ward on Oct 4, 2023 6:24:39 GMT -6
Lemme add another question to this thread . . .
What (in your experience) is the best preamp for capturing/enhancing the complex intricacies of a Neumann U67?
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Post by nick8801 on Oct 4, 2023 15:49:27 GMT -6
Lemme add another question to this thread . . . What (in your experience) is the best preamp for capturing/enhancing the complex intricacies of a Neumann U67?I always dig the way a 67 works with a 1073. |
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Post by chessparov on Oct 7, 2023 17:03:20 GMT -6
Not near the level of my best two mics (BU67/U195). Nor the euphonic Pre's being discussed but... Havin' some fun slummin' with the 58/UA Volt Vintage Button combo today. Just an informal one take, with a moderate dose of MJUCjr Plug and Plate Reverb thrown on top. Seems nice for Bluesy scratch vocals. May be even handy live with a Band. Chris |
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