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Post by sparkey on Jul 21, 2023 14:17:30 GMT -6
anyone try the tubessor yet. looks really cool,
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Post by Johnkenn on Jul 21, 2023 17:02:07 GMT -6
I was supposed to demo one several times, but never happened. Looks really cool.
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Post by seawell on Jul 21, 2023 18:13:18 GMT -6
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Post by prene1 on Jul 21, 2023 18:14:07 GMT -6
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Post by prene1 on Jul 21, 2023 18:25:24 GMT -6
Just uploaded a quick click of me noodling around.
Awaiting a track session to really see its value.
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Post by paulcheeba on Jul 21, 2023 19:54:23 GMT -6
Feedback I’m getting in Europe is that it’s too expensive because it’s capitalising on the lack of Tubetech’s.
People would bite at £1.5k but 2.5 is too much. Peter @ Heritage has been really good over the years with quality Neve clones but there’s been some strange marketing decisions lately. Like the Herchild ( that name) at that price when POM for instance does direct for a lot less.
Using dealers and paying an extra 40% is not working well in this economy unless you’re a monumental company like Chandler who are still reasonably priced considering.
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Post by Johnkenn on Jul 22, 2023 10:37:15 GMT -6
Feedback I’m getting in Europe is that it’s too expensive because it’s capitalising on the lack of Tubetech’s. People would bite at £1.5k but 2.5 is too much. Peter @ Heritage has been really good over the years with quality Neve clones but there’s been some strange marketing decisions lately. Like the Herchild ( that name) at that price when POM for instance does direct for a lot less. Using dealers and paying an extra 40% is not working well in this economy unless you’re a monumental company like Chandler who are still reasonably priced considering. You’re not wrong. |
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Post by notneeson on Jul 22, 2023 11:18:02 GMT -6
I’ve been using the UA LA2A reissue a bunch later and it’s great. Too bad it’s wildly overpriced.
Need to get my hands on the audioscape.
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Post by paulcheeba on Jul 22, 2023 13:15:57 GMT -6
I’ve been using the UA LA2A reissue a bunch later and it’s great. Too bad it’s wildly overpriced. Need to get my hands on the audioscape. I put vintage UTC transformers in the ADL 1500 and I now have a stereo OG LA2A. I forgot how good that sounds. I sold my LA2A when I went all stereo stems. |
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Post by prene1 on Jul 22, 2023 17:49:57 GMT -6
Feedback I’m getting in Europe is that it’s too expensive because it’s capitalising on the lack of Tubetech’s. People would bite at £1.5k but 2.5 is too much. Peter @ Heritage has been really good over the years with quality Neve clones but there’s been some strange marketing decisions lately. Like the Herchild ( that name) at that price when POM for instance does direct for a lot less. Using dealers and paying an extra 40% is not working well in this economy unless you’re a monumental company like Chandler who are still reasonably priced considering. I thought sort of the same thing. But for the price that’s the only thing that’s sort of close. And I’ve seen the MARKUP of CL1B’s and they could keep that. That’s a nice St. Tropez vacation. But yes I even noticed it’s not many videos on this heritage piece either. If anyone have some vocals they’d like me to run the unit please don’t hesitate. |
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Post by ab101 on Jul 22, 2023 21:36:49 GMT -6
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Post by prene1 on Jul 23, 2023 4:13:23 GMT -6
Go too zzounds or americanmusical and put it on payment plan and be done. That’s it and that’s all. |
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Post by seawell on Jul 23, 2023 11:56:34 GMT -6
Every demo I've heard of it so far was overly bright and saturated. prene1 have you found that to be the case? The Sweetwater and Heritage demos didn't sound anything like a CL-1B to me. |
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Post by ab101 on Jul 23, 2023 12:52:36 GMT -6
Every demo I've heard of it so far was overly bright and saturated. prene1 have you found that to be the case? The Sweetwater and Heritage demos didn't sound anything like a CL-1B to me. I hope one gets in your hands for review. I also wish that Sweetwater would enlist you for their reviews. |
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Post by notneeson on Jul 23, 2023 13:57:02 GMT -6
Does it have Lundalhs in it? I have always understood that to be part of the Tube Tech sound.
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Post by paulcheeba on Jul 23, 2023 19:52:07 GMT -6
Does it have Lundalhs in it? I have always understood that to be part of the Tube Tech sound. I don’t believe so. I think Carnhills. You’re right though. |
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Post by prene1 on Jul 23, 2023 20:50:13 GMT -6
Every demo I've heard of it so far was overly bright and saturated. prene1 have you found that to be the case? The Sweetwater and Heritage demos didn't sound anything like a CL-1B to me. Oh yeah. This is NOT A forgiving unit. It’s very weighty but I’m thinking more dark. If it’s bright it’s because these folks LOVE bright vocals and I can’t stand bright vocals to begin with. The compression is super duper sensitive. I’m thinking the tubes and transformers could be swapped…. I’m a tinkerer and I will rip it apart and go mad scientist. I will do some more testing. |
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Post by prene1 on Jul 23, 2023 21:32:00 GMT -6
Sorry I think the brightness stems from its compression. The release really does this brightness thing that I don’t like which I will also blame the saturation.
I’m going too investigate further.
Btw softube did a GREAT job with the MK2 Just the low end doesn’t exist and because it’s not going through conversion it doesn’t impart 3D.
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Post by ab101 on Jul 23, 2023 22:10:40 GMT -6
Every demo I've heard of it so far was overly bright and saturated. prene1 have you found that to be the case? The Sweetwater and Heritage demos didn't sound anything like a CL-1B to me. Oh yeah. This is NOT A forgiving unit. It’s very weighty but I’m thinking more dark. If it’s bright it’s because these folks LOVE bright vocals and I can’t stand bright vocals to begin with. The compression is super duper sensitive. I’m thinking the tubes and transformers could be swapped…. I’m a tinkerer and I will rip it apart and go mad scientist. I will do some more testing. I am sorry to hear this. My use of Tube Tech cl1bs in the past has shown that it was not a fussy unit to use. Also, the optical element is so unique that even tube tech's own 2 channel unit does not sound the same. Maybe the Heritage is great, but it appears that it should not be seen as a CL1b clone. |
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Post by roundbadge on Jul 24, 2023 1:03:28 GMT -6
the original demos they posted of this unit sounded like complete ass.
I think it pretty much sealed it fate on launch.nope
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Post by crillemannen on Jul 24, 2023 1:35:55 GMT -6
There been some real hit n miss demos from both Sweetwater and VK over the years. The Tubesessor sounded well.. not good in the first demos. I mean it was super saturated and not really CL1b-like if that was there intent.
Pricewise I think the sweetspot would have been 1500-2000k. I mean if I wanted a CL1b I would rather pay the extra 500€ or whatever the price difference is. Still wouldn't mind testing some Heritage gear. It looks great and I'm sure most of their stuff sounds great!
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Post by prene1 on Jul 24, 2023 4:32:14 GMT -6
Oh yeah. This is NOT A forgiving unit. It’s very weighty but I’m thinking more dark. If it’s bright it’s because these folks LOVE bright vocals and I can’t stand bright vocals to begin with. The compression is super duper sensitive. I’m thinking the tubes and transformers could be swapped…. I’m a tinkerer and I will rip it apart and go mad scientist. I will do some more testing. I am sorry to hear this. My use of Tube Tech cl1bs in the past has shown that it was not a fussy unit to use. Also, the optical element is so unique that even tube tech's own 2 channel unit does not sound the same. Maybe the Heritage is great, but it appears that it should not be seen as a CL1b clone. I can BET you deep down inside it’s the……. I want to know if I could swap out the optical part and replace it with another. They are only allowing tubes to be swapped or serviceable. |
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Post by Ward on Jul 24, 2023 10:29:00 GMT -6
Every demo I've heard of it so far was overly bright and saturated. prene1 have you found that to be the case? The Sweetwater and Heritage demos didn't sound anything like a CL-1B to me. QUOTED FOR TRUTH. also.... I'm happy with the one Tube-Tech CL1b and f anything, I'd go after the CL1a. If I were going to do a third party reissue (clone) I would recreate the 'A' not the 'b' |
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Post by Johnkenn on Jul 24, 2023 10:46:54 GMT -6
Always thought Cl-1b's were bright
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Post by seawell on Jul 24, 2023 11:02:23 GMT -6
Every demo I've heard of it so far was overly bright and saturated. prene1 have you found that to be the case? The Sweetwater and Heritage demos didn't sound anything like a CL-1B to me. QUOTED FOR TRUTH. also.... I'm happy with the one Tube-Tech CL1b and f anything, I'd go after the CL1a. If I were going to do a third party reissue (clone) I would recreate the 'A' not the 'b' Agreed! The CL1A was special…one of the many things I wish I hadn’t sold 🤦🏻♂️ |
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