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Post by plinker on Jun 20, 2023 9:17:41 GMT -6
Does anyone currently rock this combo? Or, has anyone ever used this combo?
To quote Fletcher (on GS): The original concept for the EQ-2NV was that it should be a unique "standalone" unit that when coupled with the MP-2NV gives the user like 6 chains worth of options. Using the insert points on the MP-2NV and the EQ-2NV you have a choice of two completely different sounding output sections and two completely different sounding input sections. The EQ-2NV can be run at a half dozen different input levels so you can get the filter sections to ring, crap out, or run clean and clear.
They are made to combine/integrate audio paths in sonically different ways.
What does it excel at?
Is the combined functionality geared more for rock-n-roll tracking/mixing, or do other genres fit?
Other thoughts?
It's not really around these parts. I think @herecomesyourman might have mentioned the combo recently.
Thanks!
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Post by notneeson on Jun 20, 2023 9:21:14 GMT -6
Does anyone currently rock this combo? Or, has anyone ever used this combo? What does it excel at? Is the combined functionality geared more for rock-n-roll tracking/mixing, or do other genres fit? Other thoughts? It's not really around these parts. I think @herecomesyourman might have mentioned the combo recently. Thanks! Can’t speak to the EQ, but I’d be more than happy recording anything with that particular flavor of preamp. It’s basically a slightly more modern sounding Neve, to my ear.
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Post by Ward on Jun 20, 2023 13:42:13 GMT -6
Hmmm... let's call Cary in!
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Post by Ward on Jun 20, 2023 13:44:56 GMT -6
(had to check his user name) carymiller are you using this combo?
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Post by dougwendal on Jun 20, 2023 22:40:03 GMT -6
I have a MP-2NV and an EQ-2NV. I enjoy them quite a bit. Sometimes I patch them together via the insterts and sometimes not. I mainly record electric guitars with them. Also, DI bass. Patching them together places the EQ-2NV input transformer in-between the MP-2NV input and output transformers. It’s a fantastic sound. They are both versatile units, but together they are even better. It’s brilliant how they were designed to work together.
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Post by plinker on Jun 24, 2023 16:01:11 GMT -6
I'm surprised there's not more GR combo-users here. Maybe that, in itself, is meaningful...?
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Post by sean on Jun 24, 2023 16:11:08 GMT -6
I just don't think they are the exciting new flavor of the moment which is why you don't hear about them. Also, standalone outboard EQs are not nearly as popular at preamps or compressors...I'd imagine for every Great River EQ there are 50 preamps.
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Post by ragan on Jun 24, 2023 17:05:46 GMT -6
I use the MP-2NV as my main preamps. Never used the EQ but the preamp is wonderful.
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Post by ironinthepath on Jun 24, 2023 17:24:29 GMT -6
I bought the Great River EQ2NV late last year but don’t have the preamp: it’s a super versatile EQ and I really like it. So much has been said about using it with the GR preamp, it’s definitely on my radar and someday I’ll likely buy one.
I’ve been using it after a John Hardy twin servo preamp and also Chandler Redd.47 before going to my converters: totally happy with it, definitely the best dedicated EQ I own for my purposes. Of course, plenty of good options out there. I chose this over an API 5500 for two key reasons: it was all the rage during the Mercenary Audio years but was nowhere in my budget at the time, also it has high-pass filter which I almost view as essential. The designer Dan Kennedy from GR is also one of the most responsive gear creators I’ve ever interacted with: amazing. I think it deserves its reputation.
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Post by plinker on Jun 25, 2023 0:05:02 GMT -6
I just don't think they are the exciting new flavor of the moment which is why you don't hear about them. Also, standalone outboard EQs are not nearly as popular at preamps or compressors...I'd imagine for every Great River EQ there are 50 preamps. Understood, but the EQ2NV marries the MP2NV in a very integrated fashion -- thereby, making it much more than a standalone outboard EQ.
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Post by smashlord on Jun 27, 2023 12:41:51 GMT -6
Use both regularly. I really like the preamps alot. Really great on dirty guitars. The EQ is very flexible, but I don't know if I particularly LOVE the sound. Its good, but a little "hard" sounding?
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Post by ericn on Jun 29, 2023 21:10:13 GMT -6
I'm surprised there's not more GR combo-users here. Maybe that, in itself, is meaningful...? The GR combo has a very interesting/ unique problem; while it is an awesome piece of kit and probably more versatile than a Neve 1073, it’s way cleaner than the Neve! This should not be a problem except enough of us know the sound of the Neve, a lot of what we want a Neve or a damn good clone for is as much what it gets wrong as right. Dan Kennedy and crew took a bunch of what it technically did wrong away, Damn those Minnesota guys. Don’t get me wrong I love it, but everyone wants a Neve!
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Post by Chad on Jun 30, 2023 15:15:23 GMT -6
I bought the Great River EQ2NV late last year but don’t have the preamp: it’s a super versatile EQ and I really like it. So much has been said about using it with the GR preamp, it’s definitely on my radar and someday I’ll likely buy one. I’ve been using it after a John Hardy twin servo preamp and also Chandler Redd.47 before going to my converters: totally happy with it, definitely the best dedicated EQ I own for my purposes. Of course, plenty of good options out there. I chose this over an API 5500 for two key reasons: it was all the rage during the Mercenary Audio years but was nowhere in my budget at the time, also it has high-pass filter which I almost view as essential. The designer Dan Kennedy from GR is also one of the most responsive gear creators I’ve ever interacted with: amazing. I think it deserves its reputation. I sold My GR EQ2NV late last year… hmmmm. 🧐 I really like the Heritage Audio 1073 / 1081 and Rupert Neve Shelford Channels as well.
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Post by ironinthepath on Jun 30, 2023 17:47:05 GMT -6
I bought my Great River EQ2NV new from Alto music :-)
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Post by ab101 on Jun 30, 2023 18:11:41 GMT -6
I'm surprised there's not more GR combo-users here. Maybe that, in itself, is meaningful...? The GR combo has a very interesting/ unique problem; while it is an awesome piece of kit and probably more versatile than a Neve 1073, it’s way cleaner than the Neve! This should not be a problem except enough of us know the sound of the Neve, a lot of what we want a Neve or a damn good clone for is as much what it gets wrong as right. Dan Kennedy and crew took a bunch of what it technically did wrong away, Damn those Minnesota guys. Don’t get me wrong I love it, but everyone wants a Neve! I wonder if a couple of these Heritage Brit Strips gets one into the two channel Neve combo territory with that classic Neve sound? Also, with the diode compressor as well as eq, pre. The GR, as you said Eric, is more of the "cleaner" route. www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/BritStrip--heritage-audio-britstrip-channel-strip-with-diode-bridge-compressor?mrkgadid=1000000&mrkgcl=28&mrkgen=gdsa&mrkgbflag=0&mrkgcat=studio&recording&acctid=21700000001645388&dskeywordid=39700065013197403&lid=39700065013197403&ds_s_kwgid=58700007232174981&device=c&network=g&matchtype=&adpos=largenumber&locationid=9052142&creative=537361853706&targetid=aud-314327794748:dsa-1385849816810&campaignid=6730319008&awsearchcpc=1&&&gclid=CjwKCAjw-vmkBhBMEiwAlrMeF3aO9HJ5nTXZZ-hSVerdN4G6o_ryzgXwUGJO6m5pjI2XajZgEvyyqRoCwCsQAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
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Post by ironinthepath on Jul 1, 2023 6:40:24 GMT -6
I wanted a solid quality EQ with few limitations, not necessarily “Neve “ when I bought my GR, totally happy with it in that regard. If trying to go more in Neve direction, I have Vintech units (X73,X73i, and X81) that at least target the territory: these are sort of my “main” units. Also Geoff Tanner’s Aurora line (GTQC). In general, Vintech has a sound that I really like but it’s sort of a stamp: nice to have other options too.
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Post by plinker on Jul 1, 2023 9:40:33 GMT -6
Use both regularly. I really like the preamps alot. Really great on dirty guitars. The EQ is very flexible, but I don't know if I particularly LOVE the sound. It's good, but a little "hard" sounding? Thanks smashlord ! I've read about the "hardness" on the EQ. How do you use the in/out transformer combinations between the EQ and the preamp? That's what I'm primarily interested in knowing more about.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2023 15:47:34 GMT -6
I bought the Great River EQ2NV late last year but don’t have the preamp: it’s a super versatile EQ and I really like it. So much has been said about using it with the GR preamp, it’s definitely on my radar and someday I’ll likely buy one. I’ve been using it after a John Hardy twin servo preamp and also Chandler Redd.47 before going to my converters: totally happy with it, definitely the best dedicated EQ I own for my purposes. Of course, plenty of good options out there. I chose this over an API 5500 for two key reasons: it was all the rage during the Mercenary Audio years but was nowhere in my budget at the time, also it has high-pass filter which I almost view as essential. The designer Dan Kennedy from GR is also one of the most responsive gear creators I’ve ever interacted with: amazing. I think it deserves its reputation. Agree 100 percent about Dan at Great River. Incredible support and great guy. World class.
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Post by brentbodrug on Jul 7, 2023 9:33:10 GMT -6
I had both the pre and EQ for a number of years and used both in my work daily. It’s a GREAT combo and was my absolute goto for electric guitars and anything that used an amplifier (like a Rhodes or Wurly into an amp). Was my fave on Leslie as well. And while it certainly worked for vocals I had other things I preferred for that.
The pre has colour but is cleaner than what I would normally associate with Neve-type sound. The EQ lives in a world for me like my API 550A’s (different sound though) - amazing for tracking, so quick to dial in, and anything running through it just sounds better.
I sold both pieces because at the time I was going in a different direction sonically but I still wish I had both, that EQ especially.
Hope this helps.
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Post by ab101 on Jul 7, 2023 10:08:43 GMT -6
I had both the pre and EQ for a number of years and used both in my work daily. It’s a GREAT combo and was my absolute goto for electric guitars and anything that used an amplifier (like a Rhodes or swirly into an amp). Was my fave on Leslie as well. And while it certainly worked for vocals I had other things I preferred for that. The pre has colour but is cleaner than what I would normally associate with Neve-type sound. The EQ lives a world for me like my API 550A’s (different sound though) - amazing for tracking, so quick to dial in, and anything running through it just sounds better. I sold both pieces because at the time I was going in a different direction sonically but I still wish I had both, that EQ especially. Hope this helps. Welcome to Real Gear Online - RGO!
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Post by brentbodrug on Jul 7, 2023 10:26:56 GMT -6
Thank you ab101! Happy to have discovered this great place!
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Post by brentbodrug on Jul 7, 2023 10:29:02 GMT -6
I also should have echoed others' sentiments on Dan Kennedy. Fantastic guy, great service.
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Post by brentbodrug on Jul 7, 2023 16:06:33 GMT -6
In response to the insert question, while I tried using it a number of times in that way, I just preferred the sound of the pre out into the EQ, out of the EQ…
The discussion of the EQ sounding “hard” is interesting. That’s not a word I would have used to describe it, although perhaps appropriate in some situations. I more found it to be “dirty” i.e. lacking transparency which is to say I didn’t like it on the 2-mix but is precisely why I loved tracking with it. Now I want to get my hands on one and listen again!!
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Post by plinker on Jul 7, 2023 17:37:17 GMT -6
In response to the insert question, while I tried using it a number of times in that way, I just preferred the sound of the pre out into the EQ, out of the EQ… The discussion of the EQ sounding “hard” is interesting. That’s not a word I would have used to describe it, although perhaps appropriate in some situations. I more found it to be “dirty” i.e. lacking transparency which is to say I didn’t like it on the 2-mix but is precisely why I loved tracking with it. Now I want to get my hands on one and listen again!! Thank you brentbodrug. You've provided a lot of useful info!!!
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Post by Darren Boling on Nov 7, 2023 13:30:05 GMT -6
A bit off topic but has anybody heard from carymiller?
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