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Post by Johnkenn on Jul 1, 2014 16:49:04 GMT -6
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Post by marcduchesne on Jul 1, 2014 16:55:21 GMT -6
Thanks John, to introduce myself, I am studio owner north of Quebec Canada and I love good sounding gear (did I hear analog).
I saw this post in the DIY community where I hang a lot building DIY kits like mic,s and stuff. :-)
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Post by Johnkenn on Jul 1, 2014 17:09:16 GMT -6
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Post by mulmany on Jul 1, 2014 21:02:36 GMT -6
Bump.. Patrick, maybe put a "please pm me with an email contact and a commitment for ? Feet" in the lead post, Johnkenn would u mind sticking this for us for a bit? also, feel free to Un sticky the QRD thread, that went over like a fart in church lol Ok. I can do that. We are now at 370 ft spoken for. 130 ft to go. I should be on QVC :-) |
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Post by tonycamphd on Jul 1, 2014 21:37:05 GMT -6
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Post by mulmany on Jul 2, 2014 8:15:53 GMT -6
tonycamphd, Jim did give it as an option. I definitely like the price better. I wonder about handling, jacket stiffness and all that. This is the problem with product that can only be bought in bulk... no way to test it out. jimwilliams , any difference between the two cables?
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Post by tonycamphd on Jul 2, 2014 8:39:21 GMT -6
The thing that gives me some assurance, is they go out of their way to make the direct comparison, maybe a quick email asking for a 4" sample to evaluate? Before committing to 500-1000 feet?
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Post by svart on Jul 2, 2014 11:27:21 GMT -6
tonycamphd, Jim did give it as an option. I definitely like the price better. I wonder about handling, jacket stiffness and all that. This is the problem with product that can only be bought in bulk... no way to test it out. jimwilliams , any difference between the two cables? Most companies don't manufacture their own cable/wire. They give an OEM their specs and the cable is made for them to their specifications. I'd bet the General Cable version is the same, just unbranded. |
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Post by mulmany on Jul 3, 2014 10:43:25 GMT -6
I requested a sample of the General Cable. Now on to Belden.
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Post by Bob Olhsson on Jul 3, 2014 15:05:25 GMT -6
Belden actually makes the vast majority of other brands.
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Post by mulmany on Jul 3, 2014 17:57:18 GMT -6
Belden actually makes the vast majority of other brands. I was under that impression as well. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Jul 3, 2014 19:02:07 GMT -6
really appreciate your initiative , please just let us know which is the best quality and deal.
thx again ; really appreciate the sharing of cable knowledge ect. !
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Post by tonycamphd on Jul 8, 2014 11:21:48 GMT -6
mulmany any response on the sample requests?
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Post by mulmany on Jul 8, 2014 12:18:28 GMT -6
mulmany any response on the sample requests? Both samples are on there way. Hopefully have a comparison by the end of this week. My only concern is flexibility for mic cable use. The only spec that I found different was in the conductor insulation so we will see if that has any effect. |
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Post by jimwilliams on Jul 9, 2014 9:50:09 GMT -6
It's stiff and doesn't lay flat on the floor. You may trip over it if not careful.
No one ever said good audio was easy.
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Post by winetree on Jul 9, 2014 11:01:39 GMT -6
It would be good in the walls?
I'm still doing wiring and haven't closed the walls yet in the new room.
At 66 cents a foot, I am considering pulling the mogami multipair and
getting a 1000 ft of the alternative wire. Would this be a worthwhile
investment over the mogami?
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Post by mulmany on Jul 9, 2014 11:29:08 GMT -6
It would be good in the walls? I'm still doing wiring and haven't closed the walls yet in the new room. At 66 cents a foot, I am considering pulling the mogami multipair and getting a 1000 ft of the alternative wire. Would this be a worthwhile investment over the mogami? It's a heavy duty cable. About 3/8 inch per cable. I received the General version yesterday... it was pretty flexible when it arrived but that was due to the 96 degree heat. Today it was room temp and pretty stiff, kinda like RG6 quadshield coax or the cheap hdmi from monoprice. I plan on using it for acoustic instruments and classical work. |
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Post by ericn on Jul 9, 2014 11:46:13 GMT -6
It would be good in the walls? I'm still doing wiring and haven't closed the walls yet in the new room. At 66 cents a foot, I am considering pulling the mogami multipair and getting a 1000 ft of the alternative wire. Would this be a worthwhile investment over the mogami? The Belden is a CL2 cable so meets most codes for use in walls, that would be why it's so stiff like most CL2 cables. |
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Post by mulmany on Jul 11, 2014 6:11:03 GMT -6
I received the belden sample. First impression is that the belden is a nicer cable, just from the feel of it.
Got both samples out and compared flexibility side by side... Belden wins.
Belden wins the ratings game as well, CL2X. The General Cable (Carol) has no ratings.
Are these differences enough to pay almost 3 x the amount for the Belden? I would say yes. The increase flexibility for mic use will be helpful and the actual CL2X rating keeps you code compliant for in wall use.
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Post by jimwilliams on Jul 11, 2014 9:43:19 GMT -6
They also make a plenum version designed for in wall use. 89182 is the number IIRC. It's thinner, much more stiff and slippy to pull through walls.
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Post by mulmany on Jul 11, 2014 15:09:10 GMT -6
Ok. We have 30 feet left on a 500 ft spool of the Belden. At this point I will just order the spool.
People who have said yes I will PM and give payment info.
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Post by tonycamphd on Jul 13, 2014 9:49:32 GMT -6
Ok. We have 30 feet left on a 500 ft spool of the Belden. At this point I will just order the spool. People who have said yes I will PM and give payment info. Hi Patrick, are you going to order the 500 or 1000' spool? I'm thinking i'm eventually going to want more of this for some more distant interconnects. |
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Post by mulmany on Jul 13, 2014 13:01:38 GMT -6
Ok. We have 30 feet left on a 500 ft spool of the Belden. At this point I will just order the spool. People who have said yes I will PM and give payment info. Hi Patrick, are you going to order the 500 or 1000' spool? I'm thinking i'm eventually going to want more of this for some more distant interconnects. Just 500ft. It's too expensive to have lying around. |
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Post by winetree on Jul 13, 2014 18:39:42 GMT -6
I'll take the last 50 feet if it's still available, or more if someone backs out.
Let me know.
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Post by mulmany on Jul 13, 2014 21:51:27 GMT -6
I'll take the last 50 feet if it's still available, or more if someone backs out. Let me know. Sorry it is already spoken for. If I get any more inquiries we can see if I can get another 500ft going. Placing the first order now. |
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