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Post by phantom on May 2, 2023 10:51:00 GMT -6
So, the demo just came out. This is supposedly the best plugin eq ever made (said by the developer and some gearspacers). Has anyone tried it? I know this forum is a bit more neutral towards Pulsar Modular releases. Demo: www.pulsarmodular.com/product/p440-sweet-spot/ |
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2023 11:37:02 GMT -6
Avoid on principle. The developer can barely code old textbook dsp that sounds like crap and there’s drama.
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Post by Darren Boling on May 2, 2023 11:51:25 GMT -6
I was able to piggy back via my mastering buddy and got on the beta team. I love it.
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Post by phantom on May 2, 2023 11:59:38 GMT -6
Avoid on principle. The developer can barely code old textbook dsp that sounds like crap and there’s drama. Some very serious users, real professionals, was endorsing it. I've tried, sounded good, but I have to try on more serious work and compare to what I already have. The developes made a lot of bold claims. |
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2023 12:08:25 GMT -6
Avoid on principle. The developer can barely code old textbook dsp that sounds like crap and there’s drama. Some very serious users, real professionals, was endorsing it. I've tried, sounded good, but I have to try on more serious work and compare to what I already have. The developermade a lot of bold claims. who cares what people with nfr licenses think? Put these in span or in plug-in doctor and you can see almost exactly what they are. The developer outright lied on gearslutz and the presets claiming his crappy, random digital compressor could emulate a GML 8900 and a Daking FET with no idea how boneheaded a statement that could be. He had no idea how to implement an “auto-release” for one thing among many others. He claimed his distortion plug emulated a “line amp” when it was nothing more than a filtered polynomial waveshaping function. He gives away branded hoodies for buying overpriced plugs worse than what comes with some non dinosaur daws and worse than 25 year old waves and Sony algorithms. There are so many red flags 🚩 🚩 🚩 |
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Post by phantom on May 2, 2023 12:11:25 GMT -6
Some very serious users, real professionals, was endorsing it. I've tried, sounded good, but I have to try on more serious work and compare to what I already have. The developermade a lot of bold claims. who cares what people with nfr licenses think? Put these in span or in plug-in doctor and you can see almost exactly what they are. The developer outright lied on gearslutz and the presets claiming his crappy, random digital compressor could emulate a GML 8900 and a Daking FET with no idea how boneheaded a statement that could be. He had no idea how to implement an “auto-release” for one thing among many others. He claimed his distortion plug emulated a “line amp” when it was nothing more than a filtered polynomial waveshaping function. He gives away branded hoodies for buying overpriced plugs worse than what comes with some non dinosaur daws. There are so many red flags 🚩 🚩 🚩 I'm not going to deny, those are red flags indeed. But maybe he only knows how to code eqs.  |
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2023 12:13:21 GMT -6
who cares what people with nfr licenses think? Put these in span or in plug-in doctor and you can see almost exactly what they are. The developer outright lied on gearslutz and the presets claiming his crappy, random digital compressor could emulate a GML 8900 and a Daking FET with no idea how boneheaded a statement that could be. He had no idea how to implement an “auto-release” for one thing among many others. He claimed his distortion plug emulated a “line amp” when it was nothing more than a filtered polynomial waveshaping function. He gives away branded hoodies for buying overpriced plugs worse than what comes with some non dinosaur daws. There are so many red flags 🚩 🚩 🚩 I'm not going to deny, those are red flags indeed. But maybe he only knows how to code eqs. That’s what analog obsession claimed and it turned out he couldn’t code he was creating eqs in synthedit or something back in the day. |
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Post by viciousbliss on May 2, 2023 13:15:13 GMT -6
I believe David from Mixxbus TV also said Pulsar Modular was iffy. There may have been a couple others. David had his own problem a while back when he got a bunch of stuff wrong about BX Masterdesk if memory serves. Tunca has a lot of fans for his Analog Obsession stuff these days, but I have no clue if the objective quality is there.
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Post by Darren Boling on May 2, 2023 13:58:55 GMT -6
Pulsar Modular is indeed one of the top shows over at The Real Plugin Doctors of GS. Entertaining to a point but I can never understand why people don't just listen and make up their own minds. For example, I really enjoy reading Dan's posts as I am always learning something. My ears sometime disagree with his assessments but I'm still learning something and it makes the wonderment of what we're all doing a richer experience. That said I'm curious about his eventual assessment of SweetSpot as it's sounding very right to me in my usage.
Rambling philosophical-while-exporting-stems post over...
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Post by Darren Boling on May 5, 2023 16:13:40 GMT -6
Officially out now.
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Post by ericn on May 5, 2023 21:29:58 GMT -6
Some very serious users, real professionals, was endorsing it. I've tried, sounded good, but I have to try on more serious work and compare to what I already have. The developermade a lot of bold claims. who cares what people with nfr licenses think? Put these in span or in plug-in doctor and you can see almost exactly what they are. The developer outright lied on gearslutz and the presets claiming his crappy, random digital compressor could emulate a GML 8900 and a Daking FET with no idea how boneheaded a statement that could be. He had no idea how to implement an “auto-release” for one thing among many others. He claimed his distortion plug emulated a “line amp” when it was nothing more than a filtered polynomial waveshaping function. He gives away branded hoodies for buying overpriced plugs worse than what comes with some non dinosaur daws and worse than 25 year old waves and Sony algorithms. There are so many red flags 🚩 🚩 🚩 That has always been the problem I’ll give you a freebie if you say something nice, turned down many a freebie just because I like the ability to speak my mind and if there is even the slightest appearance of conflict you guys know I’ll mention it, not because it’s required but how I roll. I’ll admit it though I do miss the days of having NFR’s of pretty much everything and at the time it wasn’t much of a conflict when everyone was giving me NFR’s |
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2023 23:21:38 GMT -6
who cares what people with nfr licenses think? Put these in span or in plug-in doctor and you can see almost exactly what they are. The developer outright lied on gearslutz and the presets claiming his crappy, random digital compressor could emulate a GML 8900 and a Daking FET with no idea how boneheaded a statement that could be. He had no idea how to implement an “auto-release” for one thing among many others. He claimed his distortion plug emulated a “line amp” when it was nothing more than a filtered polynomial waveshaping function. He gives away branded hoodies for buying overpriced plugs worse than what comes with some non dinosaur daws and worse than 25 year old waves and Sony algorithms. There are so many red flags 🚩 🚩 🚩 That has always been the problem I’ll give you a freebie if you say something nice, turned down many a freebie just because I like the ability to speak my mind and if there is even the slightest appearance of conflict you guys know I’ll mention it, not because it’s required but how I roll. I’ll admit it though I do miss the days of having NFR’s of pretty much everything and at the time it wasn’t much of a conflict when everyone was giving me NFR’s Yes and the biggest ads on gearslutz are for the Pulsar Modular and Pulse EQs right now. Total joke vs the official Massenburg digital eqs. I haven't used the Metric Halo programmed Sontec one yet but still it's hilarious. |
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Post by vvvooojjj on May 6, 2023 2:48:36 GMT -6
The conversation in the P440 is quite weird in the GS topic. The developer dissing some people there in a rather harsh manner. And of course the ghost cable dude is dissing the 8200 in another topic 'cause he is involved with the P440.
Should try both at some point anyway OR just wait for the next best game changing plugin eq. ha.
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Post by phantom on May 6, 2023 8:18:45 GMT -6
I'm not feeling this EQ at all. And I hate the workflow, you have to click on tiny leds to enable HPF, some knobs have weird names like Tremor and Soul (  ??). I tried it on the Master Buss of a song, then I tried Pulsar 8200, then Fabfilter ProQ. I tried my best on all of them. P440 was by far the worst, not necessarily because it sounds bad, but because using it feels like driving an old, semi-broken Volkwagen. I'll try to read the manual and see if I can get my head around this thing. But not impressed so far. |
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Post by thehightenor on May 6, 2023 8:30:10 GMT -6
Crikey, that's a steep price $342 for an EQ plugin!
Anyway, since DMG Equilibrium I've never looked for another digital EQ.
And the name Pulsar Modular, I was confused, for a moment I thought it was the company who make who make my Pulsar 1178.
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Post by bossanova on May 6, 2023 10:35:32 GMT -6
The developer has posted here a couple times and was harsh in that instance as well.
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Post by drumsound on May 6, 2023 11:24:48 GMT -6
The conversation in the P440 is quite weird in the GS topic. The developer dissing some people there in a rather harsh manner. And of course the ghost cable dude is dissing the 8200 in another topic 'cause he is involved with the P440. Should try both at some point anyway OR just wait for the next best game changing plugin eq. ha. ...or use one of the seemingly endless EQ I've already downloaded. I'm not feeling this EQ at all. And I hate the workflow, you have to click on tiny leds to enable HPF, some knobs have weird names like Tremor and Soul ( ??). I tried it on the Master Buss of a song, then I tried Pulsar 8200, then Fabfilter ProQ. I tried my best on all of them. P440 was by far the worst, not necessarily because it sounds bad, but because using it feels like driving an old, semi-broken Volkwagen. I'll try to read the manual and see if I can get my head around this thing. But not impressed so far. I get so very annoyed at terrible UI of anything, but especially in my DAW where I'm trying to keep focused on the music and the plugins are supposed to HELP me do that, not hinder. Crikey, that's a steep price $342 for an EQ plugin! Anyway, since DMG Equilibrium I've never looked for another digital EQ. And the name Pulsar Modular, I was confused, for a moment I thought it was the company who make who make my Pulsar 1178. I thought the same thing. What's with this. There's also Wavesfactory, like why would you do that with Waves having been there for decades? |
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2023 12:07:14 GMT -6
The conversation in the P440 is quite weird in the GS topic. The developer dissing some people there in a rather harsh manner. And of course the ghost cable dude is dissing the 8200 in another topic 'cause he is involved with the P440. Should try both at some point anyway OR just wait for the next best game changing plugin eq. ha. I figured those guys were p900’s alts. |
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Post by Darren Boling on May 6, 2023 12:18:24 GMT -6
The conversation in the P440 is quite weird in the GS topic. The developer dissing some people there in a rather harsh manner. And of course the ghost cable dude is dissing the 8200 in another topic 'cause he is involved with the P440. Should try both at some point anyway OR just wait for the next best game changing plugin eq. ha. I gotta jump in here and defend my friend. Robb Robinson (Ghost Cable) is a man of high integrity, he only became involved as he found Pulsar Modular's Ziad to be a passionate programmer that he could work with (push) to build a plugin eq that let him hopefully replace some hardware. He tests everything like crazy and will call a spade a spade. I mean, this plugin is the reason I have his Soma here on long term loan which is a win for me! I'll let everyone make up their own mind on the eq but wanted to clear that up. |
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Post by phantom on May 6, 2023 12:49:34 GMT -6
Ghost Cable is legit, no doubt about that. He has great ears as well.
If he's saying this plugin is replacing some hardwares in his arsenal, good for him. It might be custom made for his needs, because I'm trying and trying and apart from the over complicated controls, with knobs and slides that doesn't mean anything, the sound is ok and nothing else.
And I just looked at the GS page and wtf is wrong with the developer? Why do you have to be like that? A guy said that he didn't love it, and he responded with a picture of a little kid riding a bike? Just being rude for no reason.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2023 12:58:36 GMT -6
The conversation in the P440 is quite weird in the GS topic. The developer dissing some people there in a rather harsh manner. And of course the ghost cable dude is dissing the 8200 in another topic 'cause he is involved with the P440. Should try both at some point anyway OR just wait for the next best game changing plugin eq. ha. I gotta jump in here and defend my friend. Robb Robinson (Ghost Cable) is a man of high integrity, he only became involved as he found Pulsar Modular's Ziad to be a passionate programmer that he could work with (push) to build a plugin eq that let him hopefully replace some hardware. He tests everything like crazy and will call a spade a spade. I mean, this plugin is the reason I have his Soma here on long term loan which is a win for me! I'll let everyone make up their own mind on the eq but wanted to clear that up. Oh he’s back? I remember his rage out of gearslutz over Core Audio audibly changing the sound vs standard 24-dithered AES and ASIO. Anyway, the plug has cramping and dc offset on some bands according to the gearspace thread. I hope p900 can get his act together but he still seems to be heavily marketing sub standard plugins. These are worse than free plugs, eg EQ8, Boot EQ, ReEQ, and Slick EQ non ge without the sharp Japanese cuts |
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Post by mpr on May 6, 2023 13:11:52 GMT -6
The conversation in the P440 is quite weird in the GS topic. The developer dissing some people there in a rather harsh manner. And of course the ghost cable dude is dissing the 8200 in another topic 'cause he is involved with the P440. Should try both at some point anyway OR just wait for the next best game changing plugin eq. ha. Hi vvvooojjj, my name is Mark 'Robb' Robinson and I am a professional mastering engineer in Southern California, operating under Robinson Mastering. I also have a cable company called Ghost Cable that sells the same cable I have been using since 2015 - cable that ive done thousands of masters thru and finally decided to sell in 2022 due to encouragement from friends. Regarding my involvement with P440 EQ, I was not happy with analog styled mastering EQ plugins currently available so I collaborated with Pulsar Modular to try and surpass them all. And as far as I can tell, that goal was achieved. I know the Make Believe Sontec very well. I have used it on hundreds of masters prior to P440. When I compare it to both my old Sontec MES432 and current Sontec MES482 (both of which Burgess Macneal made for me), the Make Believe Sontec was much closer than anything ive heard from Acustica, T-Racks, etc. Close enough that I could now do a revision on the Sontec plugin without anyone knowing I avoided a full analog recall. Yet the more I used it, the more I noticed ugly things about the HF that did not match hardware, so I stopped using it above 3khz. A few months ago I began pushing Ziad (the owner of Pulsar Modular, and the creator of P440) to make a better and better sounding EQ using the proportional Q bands found in P42 and P11, which I felt sounded fantastic to begin with, and deserving of a full blown mastering EQ layout. Now that P440 has launched, of course there will be the typical criticism from anon engineers with nothing to lose. All I ask is that people take a listen and let their ears decide. As for the GUI, I didn't have much say, and the entire development period was done using flat generic knobs which I never had an issue with. What did I get out of it? Yes, some NFR licenses for myself and my assistants and a Ghost Cable shoutout on a PM newsletter. If I thought the plugin sucked I would have ghosted him and his products long ago rather than tell him the brutal truth. But they sound great and as a result im now selling my Knif Soma which Jonte built for me in 2014. Dont miss it at all. -Robb |
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Post by mpr on May 6, 2023 13:13:44 GMT -6
I gotta jump in here and defend my friend. Robb Robinson (Ghost Cable) is a man of high integrity, he only became involved as he found Pulsar Modular's Ziad to be a passionate programmer that he could work with (push) to build a plugin eq that let him hopefully replace some hardware. He tests everything like crazy and will call a spade a spade. I mean, this plugin is the reason I have his Soma here on long term loan which is a win for me! I'll let everyone make up their own mind on the eq but wanted to clear that up. Oh he’s back? I remember his rage out of gearslutz over Core Audio audibly changing the sound vs standard 24-dithered AES and ASIO. Anyway, the plug has cramping and dc offset on some bands according to the gearspace thread. Do we know each other Dan? |
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Post by ericn on May 6, 2023 14:08:10 GMT -6
Crikey, that's a steep price $342 for an EQ plugin! Anyway, since DMG Equilibrium I've never looked for another digital EQ. And the name Pulsar Modular, I was confused, for a moment I thought it was the company who make who make my Pulsar 1178. Have to make up for the giveaways somehow. There are also others who mistakenly believe that a high price equal’s quality. |
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Post by phantom on May 6, 2023 14:20:42 GMT -6
Crikey, that's a steep price $342 for an EQ plugin! Anyway, since DMG Equilibrium I've never looked for another digital EQ. And the name Pulsar Modular, I was confused, for a moment I thought it was the company who make who make my Pulsar 1178. Have to make up for the giveaways somehow. There are also others who mistakenly believe that a high price equal’s quality. I don't mind pricing your product that high. But it bothers me that the marketing strategy is trying to convince people that it's the best plugin humankind has ever invented. I mean, you go to the Pulsar site and instead of "Plugin", it's written "Masterpieces". On forums, the developer keeps comparing himself with Nasa scientists, and give mini bios about what his grandfather told him 30 years ago and how that would one day make him achieve this incredible plugin. He even says that he has "perfect pitch" but to tone and audio gear, whatever that is. Imo, if you are that sure that your product is a masterpiece, let people decide. You don't need to yell that everywhere you go. |
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