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Post by kcatthedog on Apr 26, 2023 14:37:56 GMT -6
we just had a good thread about this, anybody got the link
thx !
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Post by Tbone81 on Apr 26, 2023 15:45:04 GMT -6
Nope, but isotope RX works great.
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Post by kcatthedog on Apr 26, 2023 16:32:28 GMT -6
Thx!
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Post by sirthought on Apr 27, 2023 0:29:53 GMT -6
If you poke around the presets in Logic, the stock EQ has some settings to try to clear up hum and noise. Worth trying since you already have it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2023 7:47:42 GMT -6
Eq it with something not a biquad
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Post by mcirish on Apr 27, 2023 12:45:33 GMT -6
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Post by wiz on Apr 27, 2023 15:02:08 GMT -6
I use voice noise remover in ozone…..if thatb s available in ozone elements which is cheap….that’s a good one
Cheers
Wiz
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Post by anders on Apr 27, 2023 15:05:30 GMT -6
Record just the hiss for a few minutes. Put it at same level as noise in the actual track. Flip phase. Enjoy some noise reduction. I'm too stupid to understand the physics of how that would work; I thought hiss was just noise, i.e. random, and hence incoherent? Does it actually have a phase? Wouldn't it just sum and give 3dB more noise centered around the frequency bands emphasised by the guitar amp (apart from any canceled mains hum)?
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Post by svart on Apr 27, 2023 16:07:16 GMT -6
Record just the hiss for a few minutes. Put it at same level as noise in the actual track. Flip phase. Enjoy some noise reduction. I'm too stupid to understand the physics of how that would work; I thought hiss was just noise, i.e. random, and hence incoherent? Does it actually have a phase? Wouldn't it just sum and give 3dB more noise centered around the frequency bands emphasised by the guitar amp (apart from any canceled mains hum)? That's true. True noise is uncorrelated and won't be removed. Some of the shaped noise will be removed as will some of the hum. That's why I said some. It won't likely be all that much though.
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Post by ericn on Apr 27, 2023 20:08:35 GMT -6
I'm too stupid to understand the physics of how that would work; I thought hiss was just noise, i.e. random, and hence incoherent? Does it actually have a phase? Wouldn't it just sum and give 3dB more noise centered around the frequency bands emphasised by the guitar amp (apart from any canceled mains hum)? That's true. True noise is uncorrelated and won't be removed. Some of the shaped noise will be removed as will some of the hum. That's why I said some. It won't likely be all that much though. What my friend is trying to say is as simply as I can put it: yes you will get rid of some of the noise the problem is equal amount of what you want to keep is going to disappear. The trick is to find the least destructive for this instance and EQ it so it still sounds real. The thing is this do not ever take the fact that something works in this situation as gospel, you got lucky😁 great but don’t think that this means the denoiser that works is great, it just works in this situation. Post guys collect de- noise plugins like cheap mics, because every situation is a crap shoot.
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Post by svart on Apr 28, 2023 7:05:07 GMT -6
Removed my original post because it didn't really portray what I was trying to say.
anyway, I tried it and it worked.. Very little. Less than I remembered it working in the past, so not worth mentioning at all.
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Post by EmRR on Apr 28, 2023 8:41:04 GMT -6
Removed my original post because it didn't really portray what I was trying to say. anyway, I tried it and it worked.. Very little. Less than I remembered it working in the past, so not worth mentioning at all. Tangent related process for a different situation, I did have success with a mono voice recording played back on stereo heads, processed mid-side to separate the different noise profiles (side) created by the stereo head. Worked well, but not as well as RX/etc.
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Post by Blackdawg on Apr 28, 2023 9:22:58 GMT -6
Still worth recording the hiss though by itself to make a noise profile.
Just about all noise removal tools that are worth using can learn a profile. If you have just a few seconds of the hiss itself to allow the software to learn the profile. You'll be able to remove it with ease.
I use RX Spectral Denoiser for this. You learn the profile of the amp noise, then can reduce it with easy. If it takes off too much high end you can use the curve adjustment to not be as aggressive in whatever frequency region you want.
Same process for most other tools out there these days.
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Post by seawell on Apr 28, 2023 13:27:53 GMT -6
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Post by kcatthedog on Apr 28, 2023 14:00:39 GMT -6
looks interesting: thx, !
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Post by srb on Apr 28, 2023 15:00:15 GMT -6
Spectral Denoise in RX for the win, indeed. The longer the noise sample the better in my experience.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2023 15:35:27 GMT -6
If you're not filtering and eqing your guitars in favor of "TONE" then you're doing it wrong. The guitarist is always wrong. Make him believe his "TONE" aka his blend of noise and distortion that sounds nothing like he thinks it sounds like is intact and then do whatever you want to make it fit the record. You need to be like some bible thumping preacher convincing your congregants to pay for Jesus to cure cancer or stop the tornados except you're doing more than putting on a show speaking in tongues.
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Post by drumsound on Apr 29, 2023 11:50:53 GMT -6
I've had some really good success with RX this week.
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