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Post by Darren Boling on Apr 10, 2023 18:13:29 GMT -6
hushaudioapp.comIn the spirit of the vocal booth thread and the fact it saved my bacon on some dialog tracks today I wanted to share this Hush app. Much better than Izotope on removing that annoying small crappy room verb sound when you don't want it, no artifacts on the dozen or so dialog tracks I've used it on so far. Hard process only and no adjustment of settings that I've figured out outside of a wet/dry but I bought it purely on solving the bad verb problem.
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Post by the other mark williams on Apr 10, 2023 18:28:58 GMT -6
hushaudioapp.comIn the spirit of the vocal booth thread and the fact it saved my bacon on some dialog tracks today I wanted to share this Hush app. Much better than Izotope on removing that annoying small crappy room verb sound when you don't want it, no artifacts on the dozen or so dialog tracks I've used it on so far. Hard process only and no adjustment of settings that I've figured out outside of a wet/dry but I bought it purely on solving the bad verb problem. I downloaded the trial last week but haven't had chance to try it yet - looking forward to hearing it in action. The developer is working on plugin versions of his algorithm, which was all done by machine learning.
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Post by sirthought on Apr 11, 2023 19:08:55 GMT -6
I was thinking about buying it, but I don't work with spoken word projects as much as singers. The dev said he was still working the code to handle singing better.
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Post by ericn on Apr 11, 2023 19:41:42 GMT -6
I see someone using this than stamping the sound of their Bricasti on it all!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2023 20:44:09 GMT -6
Windows version?
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Post by the other mark williams on Apr 11, 2023 22:40:38 GMT -6
The developer said he’s been using Apple’s machine learning framework to train the algorithm, so as a result, Windows support is unlikely. He said he wouldn’t rule it out, but that it certainly wouldn’t be forthcoming anytime soon.
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Post by ericn on Apr 12, 2023 9:00:29 GMT -6
The developer said he’s been using Apple’s machine learning framework to train the algorithm, so as a result, Windows support is unlikely. He said he wouldn’t rule it out, but that it certainly wouldn’t be forthcoming anytime soon. In all seriousness Mark I see this as a decent tool in the world of “ we are broke” post.
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Post by Blackdawg on Apr 12, 2023 10:29:50 GMT -6
The developer said he’s been using Apple’s machine learning framework to train the algorithm, so as a result, Windows support is unlikely. He said he wouldn’t rule it out, but that it certainly wouldn’t be forthcoming anytime soon. In all seriousness Mark I see this as a decent tool in the world of “ we are broke” post. I know plenty of big dog Post mixers that are using this, Adobe's free Podcast denoise, Wave Clarity Pro Vx, Izotope, Acon Digital, and Cedar(which really half of these plugins are all leaning on Cedars code) in some mix mash of whatever works in the moment. Denoising is getting really good though. Would like to try this Hush one as I haven't yet. Not sure my old ass mac will run it well.
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Post by ericn on Apr 12, 2023 10:49:46 GMT -6
In all seriousness Mark I see this as a decent tool in the world of “ we are broke” post. I know plenty of big dog Post mixers that are using this, Adobe's free Podcast denoise, Wave Clarity Pro Vx, Izotope, Acon Digital, and Cedar(which really half of these plugins are all leaning on Cedars code) in some mix mash of whatever works in the moment. Denoising is getting really good though. Would like to try this Hush one as I haven't yet. Not sure my old ass mac will run it well. Yeah Cedar is the one they all want to be or beat, but Cedar has never let them quite catch up.
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Post by chessparov on Apr 12, 2023 11:13:29 GMT -6
I tried the demo, but unfortunately my Bedroom is now missing.
But the good news is I graduated from Bedroom Producer... Straight to Top Producer! (Top of my kitchen table) Chris
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Post by the other mark williams on Apr 19, 2023 19:36:50 GMT -6
Finally had a chance to use it this afternoon. It was on a well-recorded interview, without any huge glaring issues like loud fans or street noise. Still, there was some short room echo (small-ish office type room with full carpet and bookshelf on one wall) and typical "field recording in a personal residence" type of background noise. Honestly, the kind of situation where I would try iZotope RX and fiddle around, and end up getting frustrated that I was hearing the RX algorithm too much, and would debate myself as to whether it was actually worth it to even RX the audio at all. Now, I haven't played that RX-ify game in the last several months because Final Cut introduced a fantastic noise suppression algorithm that in many cases surpasses RX to my ear. Still, I wanted to give Hush a try...
...and first word is "wow." This thing is really something. I am very, very, very impressed with the sound. The workflow isn't great - there's no realtime option or even a way to hear what it's doing until it's finished. This was 1.5hr long interview, so it took quite awhile to render. I also don't know if it respects timecode or not - this footage wasn't using timecode. But even with the mix level on 100% (that is, full algorithm sound with no original mixed in), it sounds spectacular on this footage. I won't use it at 100% because it just sounds artificially quiet in the background between the talent's sentences to me, but I'm not hearing immediate ridiculous artifacts like I do with RX on 100%. It doesn't sound like the audio was converted to a 96kbps mp3 or something, which is how I sometimes feel with RX.
I also tried it at 65% mix and 80% mix levels, and it sounds absolutely great there. I am seriously impressed with this tool under the conditions I tested it this afternoon. I'll have to try some more complicated scenarios with noisier backgrounds soon to see how it holds up under those conditions.
I also hope he makes plugin versions with realtime usage or at least a quick sample of the output audio before committing.
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Post by mcirish on Apr 19, 2023 20:17:02 GMT -6
Acon Deverberate does this and is cross platform. Worth checking out. Stian has made some really great plugins. I have pretty much everything he's made.
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Post by the other mark williams on Apr 19, 2023 21:51:22 GMT -6
Acon Deverberate does this and is cross platform. Worth checking out. Stian has made some really great plugins. I have pretty much everything he's made. Yep, I've got the full Acon suite, too, and I like it. I find it's sometimes better than RX, sometimes not. Maybe like 50/50. But at least at this early stage--and again, I've only tried it on one (very long) spoken word interview--Hush is absolutely on a different level. Like, it's not even the same thing. Maybe it won't work this well in other scenarios, who knows. It's not designed for music (at least not yet), so perhaps of limited use to most folks here, but for spoken word stuff--my goodness. I haven't heard anything like this before.
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Post by Darren Boling on Apr 20, 2023 16:55:29 GMT -6
Finally had a chance to use it this afternoon. It was on a well-recorded interview, without any huge glaring issues like loud fans or street noise. Still, there was some short room echo (small-ish office type room with full carpet and bookshelf on one wall) and typical "field recording in a personal residence" type of background noise. Honestly, the kind of situation where I would try iZotope RX and fiddle around, and end up getting frustrated that I was hearing the RX algorithm too much, and would debate myself as to whether it was actually worth it to even RX the audio at all. Now, I haven't played that RX-ify game in the last several months because Final Cut introduced a fantastic noise suppression algorithm that in many cases surpasses RX to my ear. Still, I wanted to give Hush a try... ...and first word is "wow." This thing is really something. I am very, very, very impressed with the sound. The workflow isn't great - there's no realtime option or even a way to hear what it's doing until it's finished. This was 1.5hr long interview, so it took quite awhile to render. I also don't know if it respects timecode or not - this footage wasn't using timecode. But even with the mix level on 100% (that is, full algorithm sound with no original mixed in), it sounds spectacular on this footage. I won't use it at 100% because it just sounds artificially quiet in the background between the talent's sentences to me, but I'm not hearing immediate ridiculous artifacts like I do with RX on 100%. It doesn't sound like the audio was converted to a 96kbps mp3 or something, which is how I sometimes feel with RX. I also tried it at 65% mix and 80% mix levels, and it sounds absolutely great there. I am seriously impressed with this tool under the conditions I tested it this afternoon. I'll have to try some more complicated scenarios with noisier backgrounds soon to see how it holds up under those conditions. I also hope he makes plugin versions with realtime usage or at least a quick sample of the output audio before committing. I wrote the guy that made this with my compliments. He mentioned making an Audiosuite version that'll be out soonish. My current method is consolidating audio scene by scene on problem dialog and running Hush on that. As you mentioned it takes a while on long audio files.
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Post by christophert on Apr 21, 2023 16:45:28 GMT -6
Nice to hear reports of transparent end results. I'll definitely get this for the toolbox. RX mucks up the sound too much - almost unusable for me. I'd rather use a series of gates and EQ.
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Post by Quint on Apr 21, 2023 17:15:56 GMT -6
The developer said he’s been using Apple’s machine learning framework to train the algorithm, so as a result, Windows support is unlikely. He said he wouldn’t rule it out, but that it certainly wouldn’t be forthcoming anytime soon. Well couldn't you just use Bluecat Patchwork and run this on Windows that way?
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Post by the other mark williams on Apr 21, 2023 21:18:36 GMT -6
The developer said he’s been using Apple’s machine learning framework to train the algorithm, so as a result, Windows support is unlikely. He said he wouldn’t rule it out, but that it certainly wouldn’t be forthcoming anytime soon. Well couldn't you just use Bluecat Patchwork and run this on Windows that way? Right now, it's a standalone app, not a plugin. Once he begins to work toward some type of plugin situation, who knows.
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