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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 4, 2024 14:53:17 GMT -6
I go Apollo Spdif out to AES in of the Trinnov, then AES out to the Burl.
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Post by Bat Lanyard on Mar 4, 2024 16:00:01 GMT -6
I'm running out of a B80 analog into the Trinnov into the SH Equinox. I think it would be preferable the way Johnkenn's running it though. |
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Post by allbuttonmode on Mar 5, 2024 7:13:02 GMT -6
I go Apollo Spdif out to AES in of the Trinnov, then AES out to the Burl. Wait... You go Apollo -> Trinnov -> Burl? Won't that put all the processing from the Trinnov on the mix you print?
Or did you mean you output separately to each from the Apollo?
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 5, 2024 12:53:44 GMT -6
I go Apollo Spdif out to AES in of the Trinnov, then AES out to the Burl. Wait... You go Apollo -> Trinnov -> Burl? Won't that put all the processing from the Trinnov on the mix you print? Or did you mean you output separately to each from the Apollo?
The trinnov and Burl just affect what I’m hearing in the room. The changes I make in the daw reflect what I’m hearing in the room but when I burn down, the summing is done within the daw. |
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Post by allbuttonmode on Mar 6, 2024 1:52:20 GMT -6
Wait... You go Apollo -> Trinnov -> Burl? Won't that put all the processing from the Trinnov on the mix you print? Or did you mean you output separately to each from the Apollo?
The trinnov and Burl just affect what I’m hearing in the room. The changes I make in the daw reflect what I’m hearing in the room but when I burn down, the summing is done within the daw.
Oh, ok. I assumed you had a Burl B2 ADC. My bad.
That begs more questions: Don't you feel the Burl DAC colour the sound? Won't that make it difficult to know 100% what the ITB mix really sounds like?
Forgive me if I have this all backwards.
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 6, 2024 9:16:36 GMT -6
The trinnov and Burl just affect what I’m hearing in the room. The changes I make in the daw reflect what I’m hearing in the room but when I burn down, the summing is done within the daw. Oh, ok. I assumed you had a Burl B2 ADC. My bad. That begs more questions: Don't you feel the Burl DAC colour the sound? Won't that make it difficult to know 100% what the ITB mix really sounds like?
Forgive me if I have this all backwards.
I wouldn’t call the Burl DA super colored. It doesn’t have transformers…the DA is no more colored than say a Symphony. |
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Post by shakermaker on Mar 6, 2024 15:00:27 GMT -6
I go Apollo Spdif out to AES in of the Trinnov, then AES out to the Burl. Nice! this is my plan. what are you using to convert the spidf to AES? Wish the nova had AES in! lol Thanks Johnkenn! |
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 7, 2024 10:08:23 GMT -6
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Post by sean on Mar 7, 2024 10:34:02 GMT -6
Not sure if anyone has Nova here but confused about the licenses for the outputs. If I was using a monitor switcher, could I just use one pair of outputs and just switch “presets” when I change speakers?
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Post by Bat Lanyard on Mar 7, 2024 16:42:52 GMT -6
Not sure if anyone has Nova here but confused about the licenses for the outputs. If I was using a monitor switcher, could I just use one pair of outputs and just switch “presets” when I change speakers? Yes, this is how I'm using it at the moment, 1-2 outs -> SH Equinox. In the software install there's an option for not using the Nova as a monitor controller but when you click it you get a message that it's coming in a future update. I'm not sure what would actually change though. |
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Post by kcatthedog on Mar 9, 2024 10:20:05 GMT -6
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Post by shakermaker on Mar 9, 2024 12:53:30 GMT -6
Woah! That's AES? Amazing. I was looking at boxes that convert it for like $300+ awesome! Thanks for the tip. |
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 9, 2024 22:40:09 GMT -6
Woah! That's AES? Amazing. I was looking at boxes that convert it for like $300+ awesome! Thanks for the tip. Nobody knows about these things…and I actually had a hard time finding one for a while…probably should buy a few |
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Post by Shadowk on Mar 10, 2024 13:13:46 GMT -6
I think I'm going to go with a Dirac DDRC-22D, cost is one thing although sorry if I'm being daft here I can't see a benefit to the Trinnov over Dirac for some EQ & time domain correction. Is there anything I'm missing?
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Post by Johnkenn on Mar 10, 2024 14:00:31 GMT -6
I think I'm going to go with a Dirac DDRC-22D, cost is one thing although sorry if I'm being daft here I can't see a benefit to the Trinnov over Dirac for some EQ & time domain correction. Is there anything I'm missing? I think the time domain stuff is the best stuff Trinnov does. |
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Post by ericn on Mar 10, 2024 16:09:13 GMT -6
I think I'm going to go with a Dirac DDRC-22D, cost is one thing although sorry if I'm being daft here I can't see a benefit to the Trinnov over Dirac for some EQ & time domain correction. Is there anything I'm missing? I think the time domain stuff is the best stuff Trinnov does. Dirac does time/ Phase correction as well, the Trinnov just has more horse power processing wise along with better conversion so it seams a little better, but Dirac is pretty hard to beat for the coin. |
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Post by Quint on Mar 10, 2024 16:11:03 GMT -6
I think the time domain stuff is the best stuff Trinnov does. Dirac does time/ Phase correction as well, the Trinnov just has more horse power processing wise along with better conversion so it seams a little better, but Dirac is pretty hard to beat for the coin. I think I'd be using the digital I/O on the Dirac, plus my own converters, so as not to have to worry about any conversion concerns. |
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Post by ericn on Mar 10, 2024 16:17:39 GMT -6
Dirac does time/ Phase correction as well, the Trinnov just has more horse power processing wise along with better conversion so it seams a little better, but Dirac is pretty hard to beat for the coin. I think I'd be using the digital I/O on the Dirac, plus my own converters, so as not to have to worry about any conversion concerns. That is what I would do! |
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Post by Shadowk on Mar 10, 2024 16:49:27 GMT -6
I think the time domain stuff is the best stuff Trinnov does. Dirac does time/ Phase correction as well, the Trinnov just has more horse power processing wise along with better conversion so it seams a little better, but Dirac is pretty hard to beat for the coin. Yeah, same as Quint. Carbon supports ADAT and my Core 59's are DSP monitors with AES so it's epically pointless doing anything but digital thru via the Dirac. It's funny when people buy super expensive DAC's with something like a Trinnov, DSP speakers etc. as it's the end device doing the conversion. If I ran it through analog it would go ADC from the Carbon to AD / DA in the Dirac and then AD/DA on the Core 59's. What also slightly pushed me away from the Nova is in terms of spec's it's equivalent to my old Pro Tools Mbox Pro and on top of that the Core's are going to do whatever they want in terms of conversion anyway.
I suppose there's always the AD/DA loop from the HW to consider so it's not like I'd choose an interface with crap DA but for monitoring it's best to go direct through ADAT to AES.
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Post by Bat Lanyard on Mar 10, 2024 20:34:38 GMT -6
Never been much into specs, but I'm also no pro. Got to say that the Trinnov software/hardware marriage is frustrating. I come in, turn hardware on, have to turn the Nova on because it doesn't just turn on, and no matter if I turn it on first or turn on the computer it's still a few rounds of turning each off to get the damn things going.
Once you're past that dance, all good.
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