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Post by Quint on Apr 4, 2023 7:26:01 GMT -6
In no particular order and some completely untouchable. But still…. Pye Ba-6a La-3a The Brute 1176 (sometimes) Distressor ( ONLY for the overly compressed Radiohead thing) Gates Sa-39 33609 whats that radiohead song? which one? I don't know this 100% for sure, but I'd guess just about any song with a strummed acoustic in it on The Bends or Ok Computer would be a good example, not that Godrich doesn't use a ton of 1176 on later Radiohead albums too. The acoustics on those albums I mentioned sound compressed. The beginning measures to the song "Just" on The Bends are a good example of this.
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Post by niklas1073 on Apr 4, 2023 7:29:45 GMT -6
I have come to use my ONE LA on almost every acoustic guitar track I do. It's an awesome La2a clone but with attack times closer to La3a. I might go thru my 1176 at times if I want that 1176 sound on it, but mostly the LA which just makes it smooth and full and very easy to eq afterwards. I used to track my acoustics mainly with ribbon, but lately used tube or fet for that.
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Post by jaba on Apr 4, 2023 8:38:16 GMT -6
So many can work depending on the context but favorites here are LA3A (80% of the time), 1176 can be great both digging in and subtly (same could be said for the 3A). dbx 160A is a great option for low $.
For plugs the main goto would be the Molot GE. Super flexible. The Fuse opto has been good too.
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Post by christopher on Apr 4, 2023 9:07:10 GMT -6
The best setup I’ve ever gotten: u67 body, km84, pultecs and very gentle on sta level, vintage everything
My budget version of this is C12 clone on body, shure pencil on neck, Neve EQ clone to VCA comp (or none) into Studer a80. It works awesome to digital, but the studer is whoa
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Post by svart on Apr 4, 2023 9:13:01 GMT -6
L1
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Post by drbill on Apr 4, 2023 10:14:58 GMT -6
I always fall back on the old faithfuls. But I get the wanting to change things up. For me, pretty similar to you - 3A, 1176 are the standards. I also like the Weight Tank Comp for a bit of more color.
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Post by drsax on Apr 4, 2023 10:41:21 GMT -6
Usually the Innertube Audio dual atomic squeezebox or Daking FET II pair over here. Both fast and sound great. But I should probably try some of my others. Great suggestions on this thread.
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Post by robo on Apr 4, 2023 10:50:19 GMT -6
I find the LA3A to be too grabby for strummed acoustic. 1176 too fast. I like to highlight the transient so I can turn the track down.
APA Leviathan allows for slower attack speeds while keeping a LA3A-ish character if you want it to swim a little.
Empress ECM-519 can do the fet thing with slower attack. Also parallel if you want to dig in and blend.
I recently picked up a Daking CompII, and I think its slow attack would be great for this, going to try it next time.
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Post by ab101 on Apr 4, 2023 10:51:40 GMT -6
The Buzz Audio comps usually excel on acoustic guitar. This includes the Tim Farrant designed APA Levithans. I am really liking the Velox a lot.
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Post by Martin John Butler on Apr 4, 2023 12:50:31 GMT -6
The 1176 seems to be the go-to for acoustic attack. I've tried a dozen others, but that's what gets the closest to what I need. I use the UAD plug-in, but at a much lower setting than most, usually 4 to 1. If you don't have a UAD device, despite my hate for most of the CLA plug-ins, the Waves CLA 1176 worked really well, better than a dozen others. The UAD is the smoothest.
I hate to say it, but this is one of the reasons the Neumann KM84 is such a holy grail mic. It handles a large percentage of the transients before you need any compression at all. When I had a pair to track with, it made the balancing in the track so much easier.
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Post by unit7 on Apr 4, 2023 15:57:48 GMT -6
I'm surprised nobody mentions the LA-2, my goto (or ADL). Same opto as in LA-3 of course..
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Post by sean on Apr 4, 2023 16:59:49 GMT -6
Daking FET II / 91579 works really well…but I don’t usually compress acoustic guitars in a strictly acoustic/bluegrass scenario. Sometimes the slow release thing is cool on the Highland BG-1 but that’s a pretty specific sound where it’s really more of the “box tone” than the compression (to my ears anyway)
But for strumming guitars in a pop song the Daking is great
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Post by copperx on Apr 4, 2023 22:36:59 GMT -6
Empress ECM-519 can do the fet thing with slower attack. Also parallel if you want to dig in and blend. I don't have one, but that thing sounds fantastic on the demo videos using the autorelease options. I've been tempted to get one just because of the that. Do you use the autoreleases for acoustics?
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Post by theshea on Apr 5, 2023 0:51:33 GMT -6
In no particular order and some completely untouchable. But still…. Pye Ba-6a La-3a The Brute 1176 (sometimes) Distressor ( ONLY for the overly compressed Radiohead thing) Gates Sa-39 33609 yep, just listened to the radiohead song „fake plastic trees“: that to me is the overcompressed pop acoustic strummer example par excellence. oasis did this as well on those open chords a lot. just tried it at home with the only distressor plugin i have - IK multimedias one, got it for free - and it does it immediately. although my 1176 can also do it. heavy plectrum and a j45 like guitar also very important for this kinda sound. especially the plectrum is one major point. it just impresses a sound to the transients, more than a compressor.
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Post by guitfiddler on Apr 5, 2023 5:54:17 GMT -6
I loved the Langevin ELOP back when I had one. Sometimes I like the Acme Opticom XLA-3 plugin - I bet the hardware is better. I haven’t tried the software version, but I absolutely love my hardware. This unit just kills on everything, and it’s so versatile!🤟🏻
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Post by robo on Apr 5, 2023 9:25:01 GMT -6
Empress ECM-519 can do the fet thing with slower attack. Also parallel if you want to dig in and blend. I don't have one, but that thing sounds fantastic on the demo videos using the autorelease options. I've been tempted to get one just because of the that. Do you use the autoreleases for acoustics? Yes, especially for fingerpicking. One of them is quite fast and smacky and the other is more open. Both can be cool depending on the context. For strumming more often I’m using a slow attack/fast-ish release, often in parallel.
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Post by paulcheeba on Apr 5, 2023 16:15:11 GMT -6
Depends what sound I’m going for - CSNY would be a couple of Blueys or Splices or if I want a big clean sound then the other extreme is a Buzz SOC M.
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Post by Johnkenn on Apr 5, 2023 16:44:11 GMT -6
Usually UAD 33609 with HP side chain
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Post by copperx on Apr 5, 2023 18:19:21 GMT -6
Here's a demo of an acoustic compressed by the Empressor ECM 512:
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Post by sparkey on Apr 5, 2023 21:18:48 GMT -6
Buzz soc.2.o fabulous the Rupert neve 5254
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Post by ericn on Apr 5, 2023 21:38:12 GMT -6
Let’s see, LA-3 and modded LA4, yeah the Aphex if the guitar has great tone and don’t want to screw it up just a bit of control, DBX160a, SSL G series channel comp, if I want it to have just a bit of harsh. Most important acustic comp ? mic Choice.
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Post by ragan on Apr 5, 2023 22:36:20 GMT -6
Here's a demo of an acoustic compressed by the Empressor ECM 512: Hmm, I’m interested in this now. This seems like a badass, versatile comp.
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Post by kcatthedog on Apr 6, 2023 2:58:47 GMT -6
Doing qc on the fets to get best stereo is very thorough: impressive video.
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Post by klharper on Apr 6, 2023 9:50:53 GMT -6
Picked up a Buzz Audio Velox last year and have been loving it for acoustic duties. Basically an SOC with a mix knob, optional transformers and a bit more versatility. With the mix knob, I tend to compress a bit more than I normally would and mix it 50/50. A really great tracking compressor!
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Post by thehightenor on Apr 6, 2023 10:36:14 GMT -6
Here's a demo of an acoustic compressed by the Empressor ECM 512: Interesting way to set up NS10's - asymmetrically. Those compressors do sound good.
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